I like Exalted, but I'm not super into Lunars. Why should I be excited for this? (Genuinely asking, I'm considering backing, but am eh on the whole Lunars thing.)
It's a new and fresh take on Lunars that evokes myths such as Enkidu or Romulus and deliberately draws on the symbology of the barbarian in the sense that something which stands on the outside can define what is inside of the borders. It also deliberately does not use the word "barbarian" in the entire book and has interesting and cool Charms that are engaging to play with and present a satisfactory and cool take on Lunar magic. Furthermore it has a non-monolithic Silver Pact which is actually useful, not full of all-dominating elders, not ass-sniffing barbarians and with believable objectives and goals (although they're often in disagreement with each other).

It's cool, you should get it!
 
It also deliberately does not use the word "barbarian" in the entire book and has interesting and cool Charms that are engaging to play with and present a satisfactory and cool take on Lunar magic. Furthermore it has a non-monolithic Silver Pact which is actually useful, not full of all-dominating elders, not ass-sniffing barbarians and with believable objectives and goals (although they're often in disagreement with each other).
This part sounds amazing.
 
Wouldn't a Sea Dragon or Ocean Dragon work better for that?
Old Piotr is a saltwater crocodile river dragon, and the second biggest beatstick in the circle apart from the combat wombat that was the Dawn.

(And yes, I may take a swing at making a wombat-totem beatstick Lunar just for the combat wombat joke, the manuscript preview has at least convinced me to remain backing until some crunch comes out for previews)
It also deliberately does not use the word "barbarian" in the entire book
Except for the sidebar explaining why they don't use the word "barbarian" :V
 
(And yes, I may take a swing at making a wombat-totem beatstick Lunar just for the combat wombat joke, the manuscript preview has at least convinced me to remain backing until some crunch comes out for previews)
Personally, my wombat totem Lunar character would have been a ferociously rational and grounded architect/miner who has absolutely no time for any of this magic or destiny nonsense, and is constantly frustrated by spirits coming around and ruining her hard work by getting God all over it, accompanied by a mildly insane novice Sidereal, a newborn shadow behemoth, and a cast of Hyenamen.
 
It's a new and fresh take on Lunars that evokes myths such as Enkidu or Romulus and deliberately draws on the symbology of the barbarian in the sense that something which stands on the outside can define what is inside of the borders. It also deliberately does not use the word "barbarian" in the entire book and has interesting and cool Charms that are engaging to play with and present a satisfactory and cool take on Lunar magic. Furthermore it has a non-monolithic Silver Pact which is actually useful, not full of all-dominating elders, not ass-sniffing barbarians and with believable objectives and goals (although they're often in disagreement with each other).

It's cool, you should get it!

Well hold on, Manus, don't lie to people. 'Barbarian' is used in a sidebar towards the front of the book that talks about how that word is used to dehumanize other cultures and thus the rest of the book won't be using it. :V
 
It's a new and fresh take on Lunars that evokes myths such as Enkidu or Romulus and deliberately draws on the symbology of the barbarian in the sense that something which stands on the outside can define what is inside of the borders. It also deliberately does not use the word "barbarian" in the entire book and has interesting and cool Charms that are engaging to play with and present a satisfactory and cool take on Lunar magic. Furthermore it has a non-monolithic Silver Pact which is actually useful, not full of all-dominating elders, not ass-sniffing barbarians and with believable objectives and goals (although they're often in disagreement with each other).

It's cool, you should get it!

Oh so what you're saying Manus is that the reason Exalted 3e took so long to produce was because the 3e Lunars book was actually good, which required a massive working of vulgar magic, and the paradox backlash was 3e being years behind schedule?

Got it.
 
Wow. With the exchange rate the pdf only level is $40 and the pdf + supplement is $53. That's a lot for a product that I won't see for a year or so. I was looking forward to this but now I might just end up waiting until it's published and hoping the us/canadian exchange rate is better.
 
Wow. With the exchange rate the pdf only level is $40 and the pdf + supplement is $53. That's a lot for a product that I won't see for a year or so. I was looking forward to this but now I might just end up waiting until it's published and hoping the us/canadian exchange rate is better.

I mean, you'll have the full text of Fangs at the Gate by the end of the kickstarter, so it's not like they're leaving you empty-handed completely.
 
Wow. With the exchange rate the pdf only level is $40 and the pdf + supplement is $53. That's a lot for a product that I won't see for a year or so. I was looking forward to this but now I might just end up waiting until it's published and hoping the us/canadian exchange rate is better.
There's always the option of dropping a few bucks to just get the plaintext.
 
I'm a bit reluctant, because people also told me the 3E core was good and I fucking hated the majority of it, so it's hard to trust glowing reviews.
 
It's a new and fresh take on Lunars that evokes myths such as Enkidu or Romulus and deliberately draws on the symbology of the barbarian in the sense that something which stands on the outside can define what is inside of the borders. It also deliberately does not use the word "barbarian" in the entire book and has interesting and cool Charms that are engaging to play with and present a satisfactory and cool take on Lunar magic. Furthermore it has a non-monolithic Silver Pact which is actually useful, not full of all-dominating elders, not ass-sniffing barbarians and with believable objectives and goals (although they're often in disagreement with each other).

It's cool, you should get it!
Do the new Charms include stuff that allows you to play the witch's familiar and make bargains with people for power ala Kyubey?
 
Well hold on, Manus, don't lie to people. 'Barbarian' is used in a sidebar towards the front of the book that talks about how that word is used to dehumanize other cultures and thus the rest of the book won't be using it. :V

So I take it that there are no blurbs from the perspective of the Realm describing other less developed/advanced nations? I would think that the Realm (or for matter, the Shogunate) would consider many other nations to be barbaric, at the very least in the primitive sense of the word, compared to their own.

I mean, I guess it is a good thing to try to stretch the writers vocabulary and not have them over-use a given word, especially if it was overused in 2E, but it sounds like they decided not to use barbaric as a matter of grandstanding : / I wish I could see the sidebar being referred to.
Is the preview backers-only at the moment?
 
I'm a bit reluctant, because people also told me the 3E core was good and I fucking hated the majority of it, so it's hard to trust glowing reviews.
Drop the 5USD for the preview, and if by the end you don't like it, cancel the pledge.
So I take it that there are no blurbs from the perspective of the Realm describing other less developed/advanced nations? I would think that the Realm (or for matter, the Shogunate) would consider many other nations to be barbaric, at the very least in the primitive sense of the word, compared to their own.
In the Lunars book? Probably not, but now I do expect the Realm book to use the word "barbarian" a lot.
 
So I take it that there are no blurbs from the perspective of the Realm describing other less developed/advanced nations? I would think that the Realm (or for matter, the Shogunate) would consider many other nations to be barbaric, at the very least in the primitive sense of the word, compared to their own.

I mean, I guess it is a good thing to try to stretch the writers vocabulary and not have them over-use a given word, especially if it was overused in 2E, but it sounds like they decided not to use barbaric as a matter of grandstanding : / I wish I could see the sidebar being referred to.
Is the preview backers-only at the moment?
Why would this be in the Lunars book? The Realm can fuck off and enjoy it's own books, it even gets a whole book for itself, unlike the Silver Pact or whatever. Every people in the world has a word for "people who are not us": they might travel with the Germanic tribes and speak of the Walhoz north, south and east and west; they might live in Greece and derisively speak of eastern Barbaroi even as the traders of Athenai enthusiastically trade with the mighty Persian Empire, which lowers itself to trade with the residents of Aniran. They could also be Norse, traveling far and wide to frosty vistas across the seas, dubbing the strange people they meet there Skrælingi, or they might be Chinese, referring to Yi outside.

Yes, many civilizations and people would call others barbaric, and the Realm is not the only one. Why should we humour the Realm's lack of cultural understanding over the others?
 
Huh, just got alerted about this by a friend who backed it, but as expected of a faction that treats gender and appearance in general as more of a fashion statement than anything of real value, that Lunars has a blurb about transgender/body dysmorphia and how their true form adjusts to embrace/heal this divide as it gives them what they as their inner person wants and is comfortable/happy with. Except they phrase it so much better.

Considering how non-shape conformative Luna is, this is a nice touch.
 
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