No man don't give up on the idea! As @horngeek said, Heaven's Reach is a thing, and you can always modify it for your game! I wouldn't feel okay with myself if I just murdered some potentially cool idea by being all 'oh but in canon theres no actual space'!

Now you should totally tell us the idea.
Goddamn it, it's barely has to do with Exalted!

I just take some of the themes, charms, ideas, martial arts styles, artifacts, and magitech from Exalted. And the gunstar
 
Honestly, I'd quite like more focus on the Priests. I might write up a thing on them some day to give them more facets than just "identical LAW ROBOTS" and introduce some space for distinction and different characterisation between them - like the one on Keris's ship, which is pretty old for a priest (its fires are deeper blue than most), very mentally flexible wrt "being in a realm where the sky is illegal" and has a pair of lesser-starmetal sabres that it refuses to explain the origins of. Keris keeps asking whenever she remembers (usually after it uses one to decapitate a crewmember that's broken the law), and it keeps dodging the question.

Keris does not like her Priest very much, and not just because she knows it's there to spy on her.

Well how would you run a game were every player is a priest of cece?



The only good about allowing invulnerability like theres, is that it would safely allow you to use to use a priest as a makeshift weapon.
 
Would this also extend out into the Third Circle range with elaborate treaties between the Unquestionables allowing the summoning of their Souls by allies under limited circumstances?

*wobbles hand*

Maybe? It'd be a much much more valuable thing, though - or an act of subjugation from one 3CD to another. After all, 1CDs basically don't matter, but 2CDs do matter to their parent 3CD.

Frankly, I'd think all 2CDs know how to put together a ritual to Beckon themselves. Not innately, but given time and motivation they'd be able to put together a ritual to pull it off. Occult focused ones are probably better at it and make more efficient rituals than someone like say Octavian.

Nah, remember, it's master-level thaumaturgy. You need Occult 5 to know it, so that really does narrow down the number of 2CDs who could know it.
 
have some ellogean ecology
You've really done it again, @TenfoldShields - I really love the biological/anatomical bent you've given Elloge's world-body, and the nuance of-

Utprerak, the Fastness of Shattered Suns
Sixth Soul of the Black Boar that Twists the Sky
Demon of the Third Circle



Kiraaye, A Trinity of Tattered Banners
Expressive Soul of the Fastness of Shattered Suns
Demon of the Second Circle
... And you've completely outpaced my ability to respond again.

So! Despite my great fondness for your sapient mobile fortress who has sunk into ennui and depressed cynicism in the wake of the First Usurpation, I actually prefer Kiraaye just on the weight of his PTSD flashbacks - something about the phrasing of it especially made me think of this moment from the new Doctor Who, and to be honest I'd be on board with more "horrors of the Time War Incarnate Rebellion" in Exalted fanworks.

In other news, I'd be irrationally broken up over not being able to match your output, but I've been busy cobbling together a quest (for either here or Anonkun) based on the FATE setting Save Game, which is essentially Kid Radd with hints of Wreck-It Ralph mixed in.
 
Thanks.

Though, those rules aren't good enough for me. I'm running a quest where the character specced into Drive (well, Travel, but same diff) and I need to have a system where things can target her vehicle in combat. Maybe I'll adapt the sail rules...

You could make it a gambit. Otherwise, I know there's a few attempts at homebrew Ex3 Warstrider rules that might be applicable.
 
Sorry for bothering everyone, but may I ask, is there a list of all Pantheon Charms available?
The threadmarked post on the subject includes a list of most of them, the only ones I know of that are missing are the Malfeas healing booster in the Book of Ten-Thousand Scorpions (ignore the lack of the Pantheon key-word there, it has it on Keris's char sheet) and two charms in ES's Oramus write up (only one of which has the key-word, but the other makes mention of awakening a new soul inside the infernal, if I'm remembering correctly E: nope, missremembered, it does however make direct mention of it involving the power of one of his 3CDs, so it fits).
 
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Tallying Grandmothers
Lesser Dead
Dead by Many Causes

A scream is heard in the night, in the ancestral dwelling of a well-known family. The family fears what they will find in the morning, because the scream means one of them has died in the night. And sometimes someone might even see an ancient hag hovering over the figure of a sick man, pulling his soul out. His ghost will join the ancestors and be seen among the family hereafter.

Tallying grandmothers are only found in areas of Creation where land ownership passes down the matriline. Women who take ownership of land that previously belonged to another and was not given willingly will find the psychic stress weighs upon them. It burdens their soul with attachments, and for that reason such women often linger as ghosts. They are cursed to watch over the land as long as their blood holds it. Their spectral forms are pale and ephemeral, their skin paperlike, and their legs become chains of mist that tie them to the ground.

These ghosts are psychopomps, though by their nature they subvert the proper order of heaven and Creation. They can appear in the dreams of their descendants, and know when one is about to die - and they scream when this happens, for each dead family member loosens their grasp that holds them from Lethe. Moreover, as matriarch they can snatch up the souls of their dying kin and force them to become ghosts, chaining them with passions of obedience to her. For that reason, tallying grandmothers often become powerful figures within the Underworld, ruling over a chained brood whose obedience to her keep them from passing on. Often a stranger may come across a domain to find that most of the ghosts wear similar features and obey their pallid ancestress.

Wary necromancers do not act incautiously around tallying grandmothers, for they are often powerful ghosts and have many followers who will act to free them. Many necromancers are not wary, however, and will bind them to gain control over their family, both living and death. Exorcists live in a difficult place with such ghosts, because they often have loyal families who have a tradition of serving the tallying grandmother - or at least kin sufficiently terrorised by the fear of the ghost who can track them down that they dare not oppose her. Immaculates know well how these ghosts are often the centre of ancestor cults.
 
Bluntly, I don't care about such an edge case.

If I really had to justify it, I'd say that the Principal-Souls lack the metaphysical authority to perma-kill the core souls while in the Devil Domain - they can only do it in the real world, so if they kill the Infernal's hun-self, the po or the coadjutor in the dream-world, they just reform next Calibration (or wake up in the Infernal's case), but if they're actively suicidal they can try to kill you in the real world.

But when it comes down to it, there aren't any loopholes or Easter eggs intentionally hidden in the rules. The inner world stuff is your inventory and your Pokecomputer with pretty Primordial fluff around it, and a character that's in such a psychological mess that their Anger is trying to murder a vital component of their own soul hierarchy is a character who's suicidal and can be dealt with at your own table. I'm not going to cover such an edge case, because my general rules wouldn't fit such a personal story. If you wanna be Kratos, you do you.
After thinking it over a bit, I see the bit of info I was missing: in your work, an Infernal's first 4 souls are all vital souls. If any of them die (or leave, in the case of the Exaltation), the Infernal dies.

In my headcanon, the Coadjutor was about as vital to the Exalt's functioning as a Pantheon Soul with some extra responsibilities and powers, which could be passed off to another soul fairly easily. I hadn't realized that in your work it is as vital to an Infernal's ability to act rationally and control their transcendental insanity as the Ego or Id. (I may have been influenced by the fact that no other kind of Solaroid needs a 4th Soul at all.)

This is the answer to the question I had been asking earlier: Why is an Unwoven Coadjutor background so much more important than an equivalent Ally background?

Taking a step back, if you are going to say that the Coadjutor cannot be killed by lesser souls in the Devil Domain, why can't you invent a new reason for other people to be unable to perma-kill the Coadjutor in its Domain so that people can come visit? This may be me projecting my desire for Infernals in a Circle to be able to visit each others' souls, but, well, I really do want that.

Hell, you don't even have to make it part of the write-up. At this point it's me adjusting how Devil-Domains and Coadjutors work so that people can visit an Infernal's Domain because I think that the Domain has grown far beyond a Pokecomputer. I want people to be able to have adventures in each others' Domains because they are settings, and very interesting ones at that.

The problem is that I want the Devil-Domain to be something other than what you designed it to be. You set out to make a Pokecomputer for Infernal Souls. Because they are Infernal Souls, the example domain became an interesting setting on its own. I looked at that and decided to make one for one of my characters, and then I wanted people to explore it.

Then I reread and saw the bit about how nothing that isn't the Infernal can enter the Domain.

At which point I came here because I wanted to know why I couldn't have my nice adventures, and started wondering why Coadjutors needed to be protected at all.

At this point, I'm just going to edit the description of the Devil Domain so that other people can enter it as if it were a Santum, but both the Coadjutor and the Infernal can reflexively turn it off. If it's off, then everything in it is preserved in stasis until it is turned back on. I might add some expansion charm that lets you Shape it while it is off, including moving it around people with shaping defenses. Then you can move the Domain so that those Dragonblooded that were about to assassinate the Coadjutor are suddenly separated and surrounded by a bunch of demons.

And now I can use it as a setting!
 
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The problem is, we know that it is possible for a Solaroid who has access to a Domain to permakill the souls of its owner. We know this because that's basically what the Primordial War was all about.

It is definitely a shame, but I don't really see a good way around that.
 
Hell, you don't even have to make it part of the write-up. At this point it's me adjusting how Devil-Domains and Coadjutors work so that people can visit an Infernal's Domain because I think that the Domain has grown far beyond a Pokecomputer. I want people to be able to have adventures in each others' Domains because they are settings, and very interesting ones at that.

The moment you allow the domain to be reliabily visited, you expose yourself to your players putting everybody they care about there and funding cities on it.

A Devil-domain is supposed to be Elsewhere with a coat of paint, and honestly allowing it to be anything else has quite dubious results.
 
The moment you allow the domain to be reliabily visited, you expose yourself to your players putting everybody they care about there and funding cities on it.

A Devil-domain is supposed to be Elsewhere with a coat of paint, and honestly allowing it to be anything else has quite dubious results.

I mean, that's a nice sentiment but when the person who created the concept constantly breaks his own rules that is a thoroughly unhelpful one.

And its not like "stuffing entire locations Elsewhere" is particularly new in the setting. We already have Sanctums which are explicitly that, as well as Sorcery like Pressed Beyond the Veil of Time and similar effects which allow you to put entire locations elsewhere.
 
We also know we can shove an primordials into elsewhere as there is an entire splat taking place in a primordial sitting in elsewhere.

Actually a good way to make the Coadjutor unkillable is to make them metaphysically count as the same being as the exalt so they share the same health levels. You can kill the Coadjutor but the exalt dies with them. This would make letting anyone inside of your soul a massive risk as your Coadjutor is probably easier to kill than you are, but at the same time it gives you access to demonic armies to back you up so it may possible enable victories that would normally not be possible.
 
And its not like "stuffing entire locations Elsewhere" is particularly new in the setting. We already have Sanctums which are explicitly that, as well as Sorcery like Pressed Beyond the Veil of Time and similar effects which allow you to put entire locations elsewhere.

Eh. Not quite the same thing. It's possible, even if admitedly quite difficult, to storm such places. The only way* to kill the people inside a devil-domain is to kill the Exalt, making it basically a no-brainer to keep your family/tribe/wharever inside.

*(Unless you allow people to invade the devil-domain without permission, but that is a bad idea for other reasons).
 
Eh. Not quite the same thing. It's possible, even if admitedly quite difficult, to storm such places. The only way* to kill the people inside a devil-domain is to kill the Exalt, making it basically a no-brainer to keep your family/tribe/wharever inside.

*(Unless you allow people to invade the devil-domain without permission, but that is a bad idea for other reasons).

Yep. I'm considering whether it's necessary to say that objects made within the Devil Domain work like things made via WST, only in place of "interacting with Creation", it's "interacting with things other than the Infernal".

Something like

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If something crafted within the Devil Domain interacts with entities other than the Infernal and their soul pantheon during a story, its fragile reality begins to disintegrate. Roll the Infernal's Essence against difficulty 2, or if it does not interact with the Infernal or their soul pantheon at all, difficulty 3. After three failures, the object disintegrates into the Yozi essence it was wrought from.


Then you get something akin to Wyld Cauldron Technology to let you sacrifice things to make your soul-products really real. Consumable goods, like "eating food made for you by your souls" are basically fine with that, but mightier things have a much bigger issue.

Basically, you're right: it's not meant to be a safe manufactorum. I want you to summon your souls and have them start turning islands into dark satanic mills (to make dark satanic flour), not just pulling things out of hammerspace.
 
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Firstly, if you don't want to have to put up with a coadjutor, you don't buy the Merit. Coadjutor 1+ represents being on working terms with your coadjutor. A character who wishes to kill them does not have Coadjutor 1+.

...bluntly, I'm not inclined to be sympathetic to PCs who do this when they already had an option for "I don't want to deal with coadjutors, so I won't buy the Merit", so I'd essentially say you've just basically put yourself into NPC status through your self-mutilating act of soul-surgery...

Murdering your coadjutor is, like, the opposite of not dealing with your coadjutor. Killing them involves paying significant attention to them.

So I'm not sure why you'd present not buying the merit as an alternative to waging war against your own soul.

I think murderous violence against parts of yourself is cool enough and thematic enough that it should be possible, and I don't see much reason to ban it. Not like it'd break anything...well, except for parts of the perpetrator, but that's the point.
 
Yep. I'm considering whether it's necessary to say that objects made within the Devil Domain work like things made via WST, only in place of "interacting with Creation", it's "interacting with things other than the Infernal".

Honestly, it probably is. The very first idea i had when i read the Domain charm was "Wait, there is nothing here to stop me from enslaving all those demons to work in sweatshops".
 
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