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Is there, in any of the books, useful info on how a Realm court case looks?

Or criminal law, methods of execution, and other such related things?
 
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The compass book on the blessed isle has some stuff on what the realms law enforcement looks like, it might contain what you need. Alternatively Exalted the Dragon blooded has some similar stuff in it, but I recall is being less detailed.

I hope that helps.
 
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The compass book on the blessed isle has some stuff on what the realms law enforcement looks like, it might contain what you need. Alternatively Exalted the Dragon blooded has some similar stuff in it, but I recall is being less detailed.

I hope that helps.
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There was also some stuff in Manacle and Coin about Realm financial and property laws entail, and what happens to people who find themselves on the wrong end of them.
 
So, I'm very, very bored and have been pondering an Exalted/Harry Potter crossover (or would it be a fusion? Whatever you want to call "Harry Potter with Exalted as a major influence for the setting", really.). I've got some general ideas on how to go about it, but I'd like to stick to the generalities of pre-series canon events, and I can't figure out how Voldemort's Horcruxes would work. They're basically phylacteries, but I'm not sure how I want to shift the details of them to better fit metaphysics through the lens of Exalted.

I mean, Voldemort is obviously a pretty talented necromancer, but shoving a chunk of your soul in something is kind of a major thing in Exalted, which adds onto the already-existing problems I have with horcruxes (Murder is the worst sin? Really? And there's no other sin that can damage my soul enough to let me tear a chunk off?), and doesn't fit Voldemort being an otherwise fully functional and very powerful megalomaniac. Preserving his po soul wouldn't help (because his consciousness would still be lost), and if he tears off chunks of his hun soul I would assume this would have notable effects on his mental functions.
Plus, the number 7 doesn't really have any mystical significance in Exalted, but 5 shows up all over the place, so I was figuring either 4 or 5 horcruxes. I've considered having them represent the elements (he'd be wood, since he's supposed to be alive), the Maidens (I think I'd put him as initially representing Endings in this model), or the different constellations associated with Endings (in this model he'd probably have 5 horcruxes, because none of those constellations are a good thing to represent for someone trying to be immortal).

Moving on, Hogwarts is pretty obviously a manse of some sort, but I'm not sure what the best fit is. It's a school, so Air's association with knowledge (and would be an easy fit and Secrets is a shaky one, but it's also a castle, which is meant for war, which opens up Earth (it's also stone, obviously) and, well, War.

Astronomy being a core class would also finally make sense, and it would probably consume Divination.
Obliviation would obviously involve invoking the Mask.
 
azoicennead said:
So, I'm very, very bored and have been pondering an Exalted/Harry Potter crossover (or would it be a fusion? Whatever you want to call "Harry Potter with Exalted as a major influence for the setting", really.). I've got some general ideas on how to go about it, but I'd like to stick to the generalities of pre-series canon events, and I can't figure out how Voldemort's Horcruxes would work. They're basically phylacteries, but I'm not sure how I want to shift the details of them to better fit metaphysics through the lens of Exalted.

I mean, Voldemort is obviously a pretty talented necromancer, but shoving a chunk of your soul in something is kind of a major thing in Exalted, which adds onto the already-existing problems I have with horcruxes (Murder is the worst sin? Really? And there's no other sin that can damage my soul enough to let me tear a chunk off?), and doesn't fit Voldemort being an otherwise fully functional and very powerful megalomaniac. Preserving his po soul wouldn't help (because his consciousness would still be lost), and if he tears off chunks of his hun soul I would assume this would have notable effects on his mental functions.
Plus, the number 7 doesn't really have any mystical significance in Exalted, but 5 shows up all over the place, so I was figuring either 4 or 5 horcruxes. I've considered having them represent the elements (he'd be wood, since he's supposed to be alive), the Maidens (I think I'd put him as initially representing Endings in this model), or the different constellations associated with Endings (in this model he'd probably have 5 horcruxes, because none of those constellations are a good thing to represent for someone trying to be immortal).

Moving on, Hogwarts is pretty obviously a manse of some sort, but I'm not sure what the best fit is. It's a school, so Air's association with knowledge (and would be an easy fit and Secrets is a shaky one, but it's also a castle, which is meant for war, which opens up Earth (it's also stone, obviously) and, well, War.

Astronomy being a core class would also finally make sense, and it would probably consume Divination.
Obliviation would obviously involve invoking the Mask.
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This reminds me of an idea i had for merging the backstory of worm with exalted.
 
azoicennead said:
So, I'm very, very bored and have been pondering an Exalted/Harry Potter crossover (or would it be a fusion? Whatever you want to call "Harry Potter with Exalted as a major influence for the setting", really.). I've got some general ideas on how to go about it, but I'd like to stick to the generalities of pre-series canon events, and I can't figure out how Voldemort's Horcruxes would work. They're basically phylacteries, but I'm not sure how I want to shift the details of them to better fit metaphysics through the lens of Exalted.

I mean, Voldemort is obviously a pretty talented necromancer, but shoving a chunk of your soul in something is kind of a major thing in Exalted, which adds onto the already-existing problems I have with horcruxes (Murder is the worst sin? Really? And there's no other sin that can damage my soul enough to let me tear a chunk off?), and doesn't fit Voldemort being an otherwise fully functional and very powerful megalomaniac. Preserving his po soul wouldn't help (because his consciousness would still be lost), and if he tears off chunks of his hun soul I would assume this would have notable effects on his mental functions.
Plus, the number 7 doesn't really have any mystical significance in Exalted, but 5 shows up all over the place, so I was figuring either 4 or 5 horcruxes. I've considered having them represent the elements (he'd be wood, since he's supposed to be alive), the Maidens (I think I'd put him as initially representing Endings in this model), or the different constellations associated with Endings (in this model he'd probably have 5 horcruxes, because none of those constellations are a good thing to represent for someone trying to be immortal).

Moving on, Hogwarts is pretty obviously a manse of some sort, but I'm not sure what the best fit is. It's a school, so Air's association with knowledge (and would be an easy fit and Secrets is a shaky one, but it's also a castle, which is meant for war, which opens up Earth (it's also stone, obviously) and, well, War.

Astronomy being a core class would also finally make sense, and it would probably consume Divination.
Obliviation would obviously involve invoking the Mask.
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Really, I would just have Voldemort horcruxes become "clones", basically ripping someone's soul out and completely (or almost completely) rewriting into a clone of himself, which can be nailed to a body when doing preforming some "evil necromantic rite". The process can be scaled as evilly as the writer wishes.

Really, Harry Potter doesn't have a large mythology, so it's pretty easy to port Exalted into it.

The Pureblood and Muggleborn conflict is just an amped up version of "Noble house and Lost Egg". You could actually having being a Pureblood mean something by having blood purity Objectively Matter instead of being magical racism. However, it's pretty stupid to blatantly discriminate against any Dragonblooded on account of they can all easily hit 10+ successes with a melee roll if they choose to.


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But how else will we get another 30 Worm-Exalted Crossovers?
 
azoicennead said:
So, I'm very, very bored and have been pondering an Exalted/Harry Potter crossover (or would it be a fusion? Whatever you want to call "Harry Potter with Exalted as a major influence for the setting", really.). I've got some general ideas on how to go about it, but I'd like to stick to the generalities of pre-series canon events, and I can't figure out how Voldemort's Horcruxes would work. They're basically phylacteries, but I'm not sure how I want to shift the details of them to better fit metaphysics through the lens of Exalted.

I mean, Voldemort is obviously a pretty talented necromancer, but shoving a chunk of your soul in something is kind of a major thing in Exalted, which adds onto the already-existing problems I have with horcruxes (Murder is the worst sin? Really? And there's no other sin that can damage my soul enough to let me tear a chunk off?), and doesn't fit Voldemort being an otherwise fully functional and very powerful megalomaniac. Preserving his po soul wouldn't help (because his consciousness would still be lost), and if he tears off chunks of his hun soul I would assume this would have notable effects on his mental functions.
Plus, the number 7 doesn't really have any mystical significance in Exalted, but 5 shows up all over the place, so I was figuring either 4 or 5 horcruxes. I've considered having them represent the elements (he'd be wood, since he's supposed to be alive), the Maidens (I think I'd put him as initially representing Endings in this model), or the different constellations associated with Endings (in this model he'd probably have 5 horcruxes, because none of those constellations are a good thing to represent for someone trying to be immortal).

Moving on, Hogwarts is pretty obviously a manse of some sort, but I'm not sure what the best fit is. It's a school, so Air's association with knowledge (and would be an easy fit and Secrets is a shaky one, but it's also a castle, which is meant for war, which opens up Earth (it's also stone, obviously) and, well, War.

Astronomy being a core class would also finally make sense, and it would probably consume Divination.
Obliviation would obviously involve invoking the Mask.
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In a low power adaptation, I'd make it so he was a necromancer that truly died when Harry beat him but he had contingencies to guarantee that he would survive as a ghost and have resources to quickly (by that I mean however long the plot requires him out of sight) return to being overpowered. He would be nigh unkillable as a ghost without first destroying his 4 or 5 artifacts that allow him to hold onto his unlife and evade effects that would send him to the lethe. Ideally they would be thematically connected to the things that he cares about and the elements.

In a higher one I would make him either a abyssal who's deathlord has kept him busy away from england since he was exalted or an infernal who was offered an exaltation after he was crippled and left at deaths door by an infant. He would be busy in hell while harry is growing up.
 
azoicennead said:
So, I'm very, very bored and have been pondering an Exalted/Harry Potter crossover (or would it be a fusion? Whatever you want to call "Harry Potter with Exalted as a major influence for the setting", really.). I've got some general ideas on how to go about it, but I'd like to stick to the generalities of pre-series canon events, and I can't figure out how Voldemort's Horcruxes would work. They're basically phylacteries, but I'm not sure how I want to shift the details of them to better fit metaphysics through the lens of Exalted.

I mean, Voldemort is obviously a pretty talented necromancer, but shoving a chunk of your soul in something is kind of a major thing in Exalted, which adds onto the already-existing problems I have with horcruxes (Murder is the worst sin? Really? And there's no other sin that can damage my soul enough to let me tear a chunk off?), and doesn't fit Voldemort being an otherwise fully functional and very powerful megalomaniac. Preserving his po soul wouldn't help (because his consciousness would still be lost), and if he tears off chunks of his hun soul I would assume this would have notable effects on his mental functions.
Plus, the number 7 doesn't really have any mystical significance in Exalted, but 5 shows up all over the place, so I was figuring either 4 or 5 horcruxes. I've considered having them represent the elements (he'd be wood, since he's supposed to be alive), the Maidens (I think I'd put him as initially representing Endings in this model), or the different constellations associated with Endings (in this model he'd probably have 5 horcruxes, because none of those constellations are a good thing to represent for someone trying to be immortal).
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Honestly, the Exalted method of how a Soul functions doesn't seem compatible with soul splitting, so I'd drop it. It's some ritual involving human sacrifice that takes the knowledge/power of the killed and merges it with the killer while also making them harder to kill directly, with the cost that destroying the objects harms the user. And while Voldermort did die, his po preformed a ritual, calling back a hun and stapling them together in another body as some undead abomination.

Actually, have the souls that are sealed in the objects be the souls of the victims. So Voldemort's Hun is in Harry's forehead and so on.

azoicennead said:
Moving on, Hogwarts is pretty obviously a manse of some sort, but I'm not sure what the best fit is. It's a school, so Air's association with knowledge (and would be an easy fit and Secrets is a shaky one, but it's also a castle, which is meant for war, which opens up Earth (it's also stone, obviously) and, well, War.
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It's a castle, but the setting doesn't resolve around war being a key theme for the castle. It's defenses seem more mystical in nature (teleportation prevention, mundanes can't find it). Just because it's made out of stone doesn't mean that it needs to be Earth, and just because it looks like a medieval castle doesn't mean that it really matches war.
 
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Dynamesmouse said:
Really, I would just have Voldemort horcruxes become "clones", basically ripping someone's soul out and completely (or almost completely) rewriting into a clone of himself, which can be nailed to a body when doing preforming some "evil necromantic rite". The process can be scaled as evilly as the writer wishes.
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Well, yeah, but how does that anchor the Voldemort Prime to life?

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Really, Harry Potter doesn't have a large mythology, so it's pretty easy to port Exalted into it.
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Very true.

Dynamesmouse said:
The Pureblood and Muggleborn conflict is just an amped up version of "Noble house and Lost Egg". You could actually having being a Pureblood mean something by having blood purity Objectively Matter instead of being magical racism. However, it's pretty stupid to blatantly discriminate against any Dragonblooded on account of they can all easily hit 10+ successes with a melee roll if they choose to.
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I prefer to consider it cultural discrimination, because it A) is a real thing, B) can genuinely be important because the Muggleborn don't know important customs that are actually survival tactics, and C) doesn't involve me giving justification for racism.

cyberswordsmen said:
In a higher one I would make him either a abyssal who's deathlord has kept him busy away from england since he was exalted or an infernal who was offered an exaltation after he was crippled and left at deaths door by an infant. He would be busy in hell while harry is growing up.
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Going straight for making him an Abyssal or Infernal is kinda dull, and isn't really necessary. His first fall was when he was 54, and he got deep into the "dark arts", and undoubtedly found plenty of ways to become more powerful (the problem here is that Rowling didn't spend much time building out the universe, or delving into his capabilities, so this wasn't really demonstrated often). Furthermore, he typically acts through his minions.
Basically, he already has the justifications needed to personally be a threat in a high-power story, and even then most of the active danger from Voldemort is actually from his minions.

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Honestly, the Exalted method of how a Soul functions doesn't seem compatible with soul splitting, so I'd drop it. It's some ritual involving human sacrifice that takes the knowledge/power of the killed and merges it with the killer while also making them harder to kill directly, with the cost that destroying the objects harms the user. And while Voldermort did die, his po preformed a ritual, calling back his hun and stapling them together in another body as some undead abomination.
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Yeah, I was planning on dropping the soul splitting. I was mostly looking for any suggestions people have for other thematic ways to produce something that stops you from passing on all the way.

Also, it would be the hun that calls back the po, because the hun soul is the one with that carries the consciousness. Just a minor quibble, but otherwise your idea of the ritual is about the same as mine.

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It's a castle, but the setting doesn't resolve around war being a key theme for the castle. It's defenses seem more mystical in nature (teleportation prevention, mundanes can't find it). Just because it's made out of stone doesn't mean that it needs to be Earth, and just because it looks like a medieval castle doesn't mean that it really matches war.
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Yeah, the more important aspects seem to fit either Air or Secrets. That was mostly voicing my thoughts on all the possibilities. Mostly Air.
 
Why would you expect to hear lots of people complaining?

Usually, people who are tired of a type of web content just avoid it. Not much reason to complain unless the thing you're sick of threatens to enter a space you enjoy.

azoicennead said:
...doesn't fit Voldemort being an otherwise fully functional and very powerful megalomaniac. Preserving his po soul wouldn't help (because his consciousness would still be lost), and if he tears off chunks of his hun soul I would assume this would have notable effects on his mental functions.
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I wouldn't call Voldemort fully functional. From what I remember he totally acted like someone whose soul had been shredded.
 
Sanctaphrax said:
I wouldn't call Voldemort fully functional. From what I remember he totally acted like someone whose soul had been shredded.
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Could you provide some examples of this?

I give some leeway on stuff like "his plans are dumb" on account of that being kind of a universal trait for ostensibly competent characters in canon (see also: Dumbledore).
 
It's been a while since I read the books. But IIRC...

He was very much the stereotypical Dark Lord. He didn't seem to have a real personality so much as a caricature of one, you know?

I can't remember him ever having fun, or enjoying food, or participating in a hobby...and while Harry Potter is indeed full of dumb plans, Voldemort's thinking was often just bizarre. Why is someone whose central goal is survival picking all these dangerous fights? Why is this supposed mortiphobe so incautious? Maybe because he's not fully a person anymore.

You can chalk that stuff up to Rowling writing badly, I guess, but to me it read like Voldemort being a shell of a person. The other villains, despite less screentime, seemed to be more whole. Voldemort, post soul-division, was the only character who felt un-person-like to me.
 
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It's been a while since I read the books. But IIRC...

He was very much the stereotypical Dark Lord. He didn't seem to have a real personality so much as a caricature of one, you know?

I can't remember him ever having fun, or enjoying food, or participating in a hobby...and while Harry Potter is indeed full of dumb plans, Voldemort's thinking was often just bizarre. Why is someone whose central goal is survival picking all these dangerous fights? Why is this supposed mortiphobe so incautious? Maybe because he's not fully a person anymore.

You can chalk that stuff up to Rowling writing badly, I guess, but to me it read like Voldemort being a shell of a person. The other villains, despite less screentime, seemed to be more whole. Voldemort, post soul-division, was the only character who felt un-person-like to me.
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We see pre-horcrux Riddle twice that I know of: the memory from his diary in Chamber of Secrets and Slughorn's memory in Half-Blood Prince.
We know that Tom Riddle started gathering followers in his school days, so he obviously had his ambitions other than immortality even then, so he's not purely a mortiphobe; there's definitely some sort of ambition of control there.
Also, why would the Death Eaters keep following him after he starts going crazy? Like, there's a sunk cost fallacy, and then there's going back for more.

And, as the most damning point against keeping horcruxes as tearing apart the soul (at least in my personal project), writing a barely competent caricature of a villain bores me.
 
I always liked the idea that Riddle was a competent, articulate Dark Lord...and then he tried to kill Harry in Godric's Hollow. That is, Voldemort, post returning at the end of the Tri-Wizard tournament and the Voldemort who lead the Death Eater's in the first 'war' were two entirely different people. He was capable of holding himself together but a lot of the charisma that lead the Death Eater's to flock to his banner was gone, or at least reduced.
 
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I always liked the idea that Riddle was a competent, articulate Dark Lord...and then he tried to kill Harry in Godric's Hollow. That is, Voldemort, post returning at the end of the Tri-Wizard tournament and the Voldemort who lead the Death Eater's in the first 'war' were two entirely different people. He was capable of holding himself together but a lot of the charisma that lead the Death Eater's to flock to his banner was gone, or at least reduced.
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This kinda makes a lot of sense to me. The Death Eaters and Voldemort's rise to power (the second time?) seemed to have very little to do with him, and far more to do with his followers having embedded themselves on enough different levels so as to be able to launch their coup.

He PROBABLY does something and I have forgotten, but the all of major victories I can think of were primarily the work of others...

(He does insist on dueling a child and loses/'ties'... that's...something...?)
 
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