horngeek homebrew: Konyvtar, the Archive Addictive
With thanks to @Aleph for helping me turn this idea into a full thing:

Konyvtar, the Archive Addictive
Demon of the Third Circle
Fourth Soul of Elloge


A robed and cowled figure, Konyvtar seems slow and unassuming as it moves. Some might think this Unquestionable meek. Some might even think it a coward- and perhaps they are right in the second, but they do not realise that six hands move too quickly to be seen as they trace over books and scrolls around the figure. They do not notice how the ever-present murmurs of its voice escape the ear and coils around the mind to make one paranoid and convinced of hidden patterns- patterns that control the actions of all around them, and override even the urgings of Fate. Those who kill themselves in this paranoia become hooded and cowled themselves, akuma-slaves that aid the Archive Addictive in its archives.

To read from these archives is to risk the same fate- for those who read find themselves delving deeper and deeper, from scroll to scroll and book to book, until they starve themselves to death- and join the ranks of Konyvtar's librarians, inscribing knowledge and history in pursuit of this hidden design.

Konyvtar hopes to find out everything that will ever happen through deciphering this pattern- for it is terrified of the unknown, and is driven by a desperate desire to know the future. Even the knowledge of a certain doom is preferable to torturous uncertainty. It views Sacheverell with great suspicion and fervent ardour- for it believes his sight might reveal the Pattern it seeks if he ever woke, but at the same time fears greatly that he would keep this knowledge from any but he alone. The End of All Wisdom and the Archive Addictive have hated each other for ages gone, and often fought, libraries of ink and glass battling for position along the streets of the Demon City.

When the wisest man in a kingdom falls into madness and paranoia, tearing through his libraries in search of a secret that is not there to be found, Konyvtar can slip free from its bindings and emerge in the sage's mind; there to robe and cowl itself before continuing its eternal search. Sorcerers summon Konyvtar for his knowledge, for the Archive Addictive's relentless search has lead it to many strange pieces of knowledge- but they should be well-warned, for its whispers will not stop even for a sorcerous binding…


Konyvtar and the Althing: It has not yet determined what part the Green Sun Princes have to play in the Great Pattern, and will either keep them near to watch them closely or send them in search of lost knowledge that it has long sought after. If it can do both, of course, it will make an effort to - perhaps in action the role of the Infernal Exalted will become clearer.
 
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Don't exist.

Or at least don't have a proper interesting framework they fit into.
Funnily enough, I actually started working on a simplified bureaucracy system not too long ago, after reading through a big argument on the topic a few hundred pages back. It focuses mainly on using large amounts of (roleplay-achievable) modifiers to produce magnitudinal effects, whilst also keeping separate a (playable) distinction between 'the PC' and 'The PC's organisation', which I think is a pitfall a lot of people trip over when trying to imagine how a Solar bureaucracy should work. I'll likely post it after I've had a chance to read through Masters of Jade and see if that changes my view of things.

Edit: ....Wow, I make a lot of run-on sentences when tired. I should really sleep.
 
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With thanks to @Aleph for helping me turn this idea into a full thing:

Konyvtar, the Archive Addictive
Demon of the Third Circle
Fourth Soul of Elloge


A robed and cowled figure, Konyvtar seems slow and unassuming as it moves. Some might think this Unquestionable meek. Some might even think it a coward- and perhaps they are right in the second, but they do not realise that six hands move too quickly to be seen as they trace over books and scrolls around the figure. They do not notice how the ever-present murmurs of its voice escape the ear and coils around the mind to make one paranoid and convinced of hidden patterns- patterns that control the actions of all around them, and override even the urgings of Fate. Those who kill themselves in this paranoia become hooded and cowled themselves, akuma-slaves that aid the Archive Addictive in its archives.

To read from these archive is to risk the same fate- for those who read find themselves delving deeper and deeper, from scroll to scroll and book to book, until they starve themselves to death- and join the ranks of Konyvtar's librarians, inscribing knowledge and history in pursuit of this hidden design.

Konyvtar hopes to find out everything that will ever happen through deciphering this pattern- for it is terrified of the unknown, and is driven by a desperate desire to know the future. Even the knowledge of a certain doom is preferable to torturous uncertainty. It views Sacheverell with great suspicion and fervent ardour- for it believes his sight might reveal the Pattern it seeks if he ever woke, but at the same time fears greatly that he would keep this knowledge from any but he alone. The End of All Wisdom and the Archive Addictive have hated each other for ages gone, and often fought, libraries of ink and glass battling for position along the streets of the Demon City.

When the wisest man in a kingdom falls into madness and paranoia, tearing through his libraries in search of a secret that is not there to be found, Konyvtar can slip free from its bindings and emerge in the sage's mind; there to robe and cowl itself before continuing its eternal search. Sorcerers summon Konyvtar for his knowledge, for the Archive Addictive's relentless search has lead it to many strange pieces of knowledge- but they should be well-warned, for its whispers will not stop even for a sorcerous binding…


Konyvtar and the Althing: It has not yet determined what part the Green Sun Princes have to play in the Great Pattern, and will either keep them near to watch them closely or send them in search of lost knowledge that it has long sought after. If it can do both, of course, it will make an effort to - perhaps in action the role of the Infernal Exalted will become clearer.
Reminds of hermaeus mora
 
TV Tropes is Hermaeus Mora?
Well just look at what happens when someone gets drawn into his library.
Fear got the better of my master, and he quickly passed to the next realm.

I heard him laugh, 'I feel like I'm home now.'

Morian Zenas described to me an endless library, shelves stretching on in every direction, stacks on top of stacks. Pages floated on a mystical wind that he could not feel. Every book had a black cover with no title. He could see no one, but felt the presence of ghosts moving through the stacks, rifling through books, ever searching.

It was Apocrypha. The home of Hermaeus-Mora, where all forbidden knowledge can be found. I felt a shudder in my mind, but I could not tell if it was my master's or mine.

Morian Zenas never traveled to another realm that I know of.

Throughout his visits to the first four realms, my master spoke to me constantly. Upon entering the Apocrypha, he became quieter, as he was lured into the world of research and study, the passions that had controlled his heart while on Nirn. I would frantically try to call to him, but he closed his mind to me.

Then he would whisper, 'This cannot be ...'

'No one would ever guess the truth ...'

'I must learn more ...'

'I see the world, a last illusion's shimmer, it is crumbling all around us ...'

I would cry back to him, begging him to tell me what was happening, what he was seeing, what he was learning. I even tried using Conjuration to summon him as if he were a Daedra himself, but he refused to leave. Morian Zenas was lost.

I last received a whisper from him six months ago. Before then, it had been five years, and three before that. His thoughts are no longer intelligible in any language. Perhaps he is still in Apocrypha, lost but happy, in a trap he refuses to escape.

Perhaps he slipped between the stacks and passed into the Madhouse of Sheogorath, losing his sanity forever.

I would save him if I could.

I would silence his whispers if I could.
The Doors of Oblivion

Edit I recommend people read the full story rather than the relevant excerpt I posted. TES has a lot of material that can be modified for exalted.
 
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With thanks to @Aleph for helping me turn this idea into a full thing:

Konyvtar, the Archive Addictive
Demon of the Third Circle
Fourth Soul of Elloge


A robed and cowled figure, Konyvtar seems slow and unassuming as it moves. Some might think this Unquestionable meek. Some might even think it a coward- and perhaps they are right in the second, but they do not realise that six hands move too quickly to be seen as they trace over books and scrolls around the figure. They do not notice how the ever-present murmurs of its voice escape the ear and coils around the mind to make one paranoid and convinced of hidden patterns- patterns that control the actions of all around them, and override even the urgings of Fate. Those who kill themselves in this paranoia become hooded and cowled themselves, akuma-slaves that aid the Archive Addictive in its archives.

To read from these archive is to risk the same fate- for those who read find themselves delving deeper and deeper, from scroll to scroll and book to book, until they starve themselves to death- and join the ranks of Konyvtar's librarians, inscribing knowledge and history in pursuit of this hidden design.

Konyvtar hopes to find out everything that will ever happen through deciphering this pattern- for it is terrified of the unknown, and is driven by a desperate desire to know the future. Even the knowledge of a certain doom is preferable to torturous uncertainty. It views Sacheverell with great suspicion and fervent ardour- for it believes his sight might reveal the Pattern it seeks if he ever woke, but at the same time fears greatly that he would keep this knowledge from any but he alone. The End of All Wisdom and the Archive Addictive have hated each other for ages gone, and often fought, libraries of ink and glass battling for position along the streets of the Demon City.

When the wisest man in a kingdom falls into madness and paranoia, tearing through his libraries in search of a secret that is not there to be found, Konyvtar can slip free from its bindings and emerge in the sage's mind; there to robe and cowl itself before continuing its eternal search. Sorcerers summon Konyvtar for his knowledge, for the Archive Addictive's relentless search has lead it to many strange pieces of knowledge- but they should be well-warned, for its whispers will not stop even for a sorcerous binding…


Konyvtar and the Althing: It has not yet determined what part the Green Sun Princes have to play in the Great Pattern, and will either keep them near to watch them closely or send them in search of lost knowledge that it has long sought after. If it can do both, of course, it will make an effort to - perhaps in action the role of the Infernal Exalted will become clearer.
He needs a landscape Body, a massive labyrinth-library filled with knowledge, but it is all spread out in an insane manner, with no rhyme or reason. Ancient lore and knowledge that could save the world or damn it, blueprints to wonders of the first age and older beside cooking manuals, children stories.
 
He needs a landscape Body, a massive labyrinth-library filled with knowledge, but it is all spread out in an insane manner, with no rhyme or reason. Ancient lore and knowledge that could save the world or damn it, blueprints to wonders of the first age and older beside cooking manuals, children stories.

I refer to its archives in the description- which are absolutely its landscape-body, yes.

TV Tropes is Hermaeus Mora?

And yeah, this is the TV Tropes 3CD.
 
He needs a landscape Body, a massive labyrinth-library filled with knowledge, but it is all spread out in an insane manner, with no rhyme or reason. Ancient lore and knowledge that could save the world or damn it, blueprints to wonders of the first age and older beside cooking manuals, children stories.
Nah, it's all perfectly organized, but instead of doors between rooms, there are hyperlinks.
 
So I was discussing an old character with @Imrix, from a game we were in back in the day (run by our own @notthepenguins I believe), and how before it died I was gearing up to remake her as a Devil-Tiger since I couldn't find a splat that really fit her (except Solar, but Solars are boring :V, or sort-of Nocturnal, except the postcognition charms made the GM Very Sad). After I found some of my old notes, I resurrected her Excellency and he said I ought to post it here.

FIRST ARANKAN EXCELLENCY – ESSENCE OVERWHELMING
Cost: 1m/die; Mins: Essence 1; Type: Reflexive (Step 1 for attacker; Step 2 for defender)
Keywords: Combo-OK
Duration: Instant
Prerequisite Charms: None
Aranka Sirvan is a being of joy and whimsy, who values cleverness and cunning above all else. She can see the truth of things, and what she sees delights her. She lives to investigate the unknown and take pride in being the one with the answers. Her knowledge of deeper truths affects the material as well as the mystical – it is not for nothing that she is known as the Ecstatic Alchemist! Indeed, she values the transmutation of matter as much as more metaphysical liminal transitions. Aranka deceives friends and foes alike, seeing it as sharing mysteries with others, for who could not enjoy such? She disdains caste and hierarchy, a quick wit and clever tongue too often infuriating her superiors. Of course, the fury of others is an opportunity for her.

This charm may always be used to endure the affects of poisons and diseases – between the Ecstatic Alchemist's carousing and her tendency to test her concoctions on herself, there is little in Creation she has not experienced. This charm may never be used to lead an organization, for Aranka will not lead others any more than she will suffer herself to be led.

Her Charms would basically split into two trees that eventually merge - first being her interaction with the world, based around senses and investigation I'd start with Keen Senses or similar, with either much cheaper follow-up purchases for other senses besides the first, or maybe just an auto-upgrade. Then a synaesthetic charm that does rapid Investigation, first of individuals and then of crime-scenes and the like (or possibly vice-versa, any opinions there?) Also a charm or small cluster for immunity to penalties for Perception and Awareness checks. Essence-Detection leading to AESS-equivalent, and a post-cognition charm building off of that - she's so observant she can literally re-experience what took place. And spirit-detecting and spirit-killing charms would be there too. Additionally, Imrix suggested a combat Charm or Charms built around how well she knew the other character - I was thinking something like the Halos from White Reaper, one per Intimacy she discovers, and perhaps recovering with her Mythos Exultant.

The other basal charm would be built around her fundamental self, and (since the original character was a Sherlock Holmes reference writ very, very large) it's a Resistance charm to endure disease and poison. :V Follow-ups would be pretty Lunar-y, due to a Lunar being very influential to her character: storing the diseases/poisons for later use, an internal alchemy charm for mastering and speeding the use of Art of Alchemy, creating new poisons/diseases. Also a combat tree built around inflicting poisons on enemies and herself, inverting the penalties for her (Orgiastic Fugitive~), getting bonuses for her opponents being infected/poisoned by her. Possibly also Charms to give herself temporary mutations ala the Malfeas charms, themed around internal alchemy rather than 'I AM KING FUCKMOUNTAIN, LORD OF THE MIDDLE HELLS' stuff, with a follow-up to that to do the same to other people, temporarily or permanently. Also, a soak tree, fairly high up, compared to other Exalts, since Aranka is approaching soaking damage via 'Well I can take so much drugs, I GOTTA be tough to survive' rather than the more direct 'I like not being stabbed' that Solars and Lunars and even Slayers do.
 
He needs a landscape Body, a massive labyrinth-library filled with knowledge, but it is all spread out in an insane manner, with no rhyme or reason. Ancient lore and knowledge that could save the world or damn it, blueprints to wonders of the first age and older beside cooking manuals, children stories.
Remember to bring a means of controlled flight, or at least a parachute.
 
Ligier has an Artifact called the "Sword of the Yozis". You have to fight him with it in Mass combat for some reason.

The weird thing is that the Magnitude rating of the sword is 6, is this a typo?
If it isn't a typo: is it because of magic, or is the sword actually that big?
Graypairofsocks threw 2 10-faced dice. Reason: 3 Total: 12
8 8 4 4
 
I'm fairly sure its also kind of fluff. Apparently Liger won't bring out the sword unless he is sufficiently challenged. The book straight out says that a sufficient challenge is 'an army of dragonblooded' or the like, and while a few Solar's have challenged him to get the sword he killed them all.
 
Right then, Malfeas is huge. He is basically a Dyson Sphere. I saw some reddit calcs on population figures for a Dyson Sphere so I'd thought to pay my own figures here.
The calculations I saw said that in the tennis degree chuck of the sphere that would be habitable, the pop would be a whopping 107,000,000,000,000,000 individuals. The thing is, that was using gravity as the limit, which isn't a problem in Malfeas. So multiply that by thirty six.
I get 3852000000000000000 people. Times however many layers there are in Malfeas. And that is ignoring those that live in Kimbery, or either of the two literally infinite Yozi.
Think about it. I once saw someone argue that Malfeas is not United, that if a stereotypical portal to Creation opened any invasion attempt would flop because of that. All you would need to take Creation are the forces of one Demon Lord. No, I'm not referring to Octavian or the Ellogan Second circle of the harem protagonist. Choose a second circle, they could do it.
 
Yeah but then said second circle gets jumped by the Exalted. Yozi's usually have enough troops of demons to occupy large pieces of land, its getting their demons out that is the issue...and the fact that the Exalted can go and kill the Demon Lord in question. While it would be difficult as fuck, eve if Liger managed to turn up in Creation with a giant army armed with all his best toys, he could be brought down eventually.

That being said yeah, a few million Blood Apes is a force that is hard to counter.
 
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Yeah but then said second circle gets jumped by the Exalted. Yozi's usually have enough troops of demons to occupy large pieces of land, its getting their demons out that is the issue...and the fact that the Exalted can go and kill the Demon Lord in question. While it would be difficult as fuck, eve if Liger managed to turn up in Creation with a giant army armed with all his best toys, he could be brought down eventually.

That being said yeah, a few million Blood Apes is a force that is hard to counter.
Drown that Exalt in [Demons] and see how far he gets. A Second Circle is a equivalent threat to a young Solar or sworn brotherhood of Dragonbloods, and it isn't like the Second Circle will be alone. Archery Demons, Blood Apes butting in for however long it takes for them to die. I think either they go down to teacup ninjas, Lookshy or the Realm move in, or a Solar Circle goes up against them, and the Solars wouldn't be sure of success.
 
Second Circle Demon: Bwahahah! Me and my army of demons shall march on... (pause) Wait a moment.
(five days later)
Second Circle Demon: Who dares summon me-
Sidereal: Shut up. Here is what is going to happen. I am going to bind you and you are going to stop this. If you do not, the circle of Exalts in this room will turn you into a paperclip. Are we clear?
Second Circle Demon:...you drive a hard bargain.

Needless to say, Second Circle Demons invading Creation runs into... logistical problems.
 
Right then, Malfeas is huge. He is basically a Dyson Sphere. I saw some reddit calcs on population figures for a Dyson Sphere so I'd thought to pay my own figures here.
The calculations I saw said that in the tennis degree chuck of the sphere that would be habitable, the pop would be a whopping 107,000,000,000,000,000 individuals. The thing is, that was using gravity as the limit, which isn't a problem in Malfeas. So multiply that by thirty six.
I get 3852000000000000000 people. Times however many layers there are in Malfeas. And that is ignoring those that live in Kimbery, or either of the two literally infinite Yozi.
Think about it. I once saw someone argue that Malfeas is not United, that if a stereotypical portal to Creation opened any invasion attempt would flop because of that. All you would need to take Creation are the forces of one Demon Lord. No, I'm not referring to Octavian or the Ellogan Second circle of the harem protagonist. Choose a second circle, they could do it.
And this, friends, is why you don't treat Malfeas as a literal dyson sphere.
 
If its the 2nd age I could see the Sids going "right march straight out into wyld infested territory and clear the rakasha out. you cannot move closer to the Pillar of Earth butonly away from it."
 
Well, Malfeas is noted to be big enough for Creation to pass through his arches, and populous enough that Creation's population can be lost in the margin of error.

As for logistics, well... anyone who matters in Malfeas can teleport, co-locate or acquire a demon capable of doing so.
 
Well, Malfeas is noted to be big enough for Creation to pass through his arches, and populous enough that Creation's population can be lost in the margin of error.

As for logistics, well... anyone who matters in Malfeas can teleport, co-locate or acquire a demon capable of doing so.
The logistics problem is "there are no stereotypical portals from Malfeas to Creation, only 5-day trips individual demons make through Cecelyne that comply with the Surrender Oaths".
 
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