Game of the Year: A Naruto Quest

I want him to want to establish his importance in the world. We've already got the seeds for that kind of motivation - the way he was told his prev life was irrelevant, his obsessive focus on raising APP so nobody ever looks at him average again. The striving to get Rookie could be interpreted as being so he could establish his importance in Academy.

Ideally he'd want to leave his mark on as many places and people as he could, which even fits what we've done so far.

What did you have as the deeper motive? I mean, the upper is totally plausible, but I think it's important to determine why exactly does Daisuke want this. Does he want to just "please the gods" aka get a high score when he dies? Does he feel rage and anguish for human insignificance, and so wants to alleviate his pain by trying to leave a mark in history? Did he get addicted to the feeling of power and just wants more of it? Does he feel guilty and sad because of his low score in the previous life, and so wants to make himself feel worthy again? Or something else?

Erzherzog_Karl seems to go for the "Addicted to power" motive, specifically enjoying the feeling of establishing superiority over others? That would make an interesting story, and it does fit the Naruto World perfectly.

I'd like to hear others' thoughts as well, to help get some meat on Daisuke's character, at least in my mind :)
 
I feel that over the years he's largely chosen to go native. Sure, he's aware theres more, but he's living it now and fuck screwing it up or dying without doing his best.
 
I would like to visit an earlier topic in the thread now that Daisuke is a real ninja; What is Daisuke's ultimate goal in this life?

Currently Daisuke doesn't seem to have a goal other than "protect his important people", which is by itself inadequate for a couple of reasons:
1. It is the same goal that every ninja in the village has, which makes it generic and bland, and narratively insufficient. All interesting characters in the canon setting have something else they want to achieve as well, and so should Daisuke.
2. Daisuke was sent here to this world with a supernatural message that his previous life was pointless and bad. It would make sense for him to try to actively compensate or even overcompensate in this life, or at the very least think about it.
3. Daisuke has strong reasons to think that he will be born again in this world with his current actions affecting his future lives, along with other metaphysical revelations (scoring, time travel, future knowledge). These should absolutely be a factor in his worldview and motives. Just think about the religious movement such a knowledge would cause in our world, and what people do every day even when they don't have any proof! Daisuke just ignoring this makes the character unrealistic and unrelatable.
4. Daisuke communicates often with a supernatural existence (the game system). Every time he hears or sees it, he is again reminded that he is different from all the others in this world. He alone has limited future sight, and knowledge of other time-lines. They are right there in his otherworldly achievement list, which also gives him powers in a method different from the training employed by the rest of the Naruto World inhabitants. Whether he thinks that he is alone, unique or chosen, it should have an effect on Daisuke. No one of us could ignore something like that in our lives, and for Daisuke to do it is again immersion breaking.

It would be nice to hear other voters' thoughts on this matter.
The goal of 'life' is to get a high score, achievements etc. Everything else is an ephemeral thing that will be taken from him, excepting possibly his companion slot.

Also, his entire reality depends on him continuing to play, no matter how bad it gets. If you think the lives of npcs in 'elemental: the game' have value, then stretching each life out as long as possible before they inevitably fade into nonexistence between resets seems like a fine goal.

Which they probally do, unless you think the npcs from average everyguys past life are still around. 'Game not found'...

Game of the year, plenty of fridge horror.
 
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The goal of 'life' is to get a high score, achievements etc. Everything else is an ephemeral thing that will be taken from him, excepting possibly his companion slot.

Also, his entire reality depends on him continuing to play, no matter how bad it gets. If you think the lives of npcs in 'elemental: the game' have value, then stretching each life out as long as possible before they inevitably fade into nonexisyence between resets seems like a fine goal.

Gamr of the year, plenty of fridge horror.
I'm glad that someone roots for the "religious fanatic" high score route :D. In a way, it is the most human of them all. I think that billions of people from our world would interpret Daisuke's death event as him having seen GOD or at least having interacted with a divine interface, and would accordingly devote their next life to try to achieve the approval of said entity, aka try to get a high score.

The idea that the "NPC"s vanish from existence every reset is also an interesting one, and one that fits a possible "I'm the chosen one, everything circles around me and is just a game" interpretation from Daisuke. It's a kind of a brain-in-the-jar philosophy I think? Anyways, it might be fun and thematic to explore here!
 
What if there are no NPCs, and everyone in this game world is a reincarnation from another reality who will never admit that they receive audiovisual hallucinations within the ninja deathworld?

What if there are untold iterations of every game state, a thousand Narutos and Sasukes each 'piloted' by a different reincarnee?

What if Mariko is a real person too?

Cue Negaverse omakes where this is Mariko-quest. The questers are reacting with great salt to being placed on a team with the hated Daisuke who stole our cousin's friendship from us all those years ago.
 
What if there are no NPCs, and everyone in this game world is a reincarnation from another reality who will never admit that they receive audiovisual hallucinations within the ninja deathworld?

What if there are untold iterations of every game state, a thousand Narutos and Sasukes each 'piloted' by a different reincarnee?

What if Mariko is a real person too?

Cue Negaverse omakes where this is Mariko-quest. The questers are reacting with great salt to being placed on a team with the hated Daisuke who stole our cousin's friendship from us all those years ago.
Naruto ain't a grimdark death world. It's a snounen action adventure world.
 
I feel that over the years he's largely chosen to go native. Sure, he's aware theres more, but he's living it now and fuck screwing it up or dying without doing his best.
Even in the case that he chooses to partially ignore the supernatural, Daisuke needs to battle against feelings of being different and the knowledge of having failed in his previous life. Whether he chooses denial or some other defense/coping mechanism against the game system's constant reminders, it should be a part of the character and the story, even if he never had to regret his choice later.

Edit: PetyrWiggin, the game-of-the-year setup is really rich in all kinds of plausible metaphysical implications, isn't it :D That's part of why I raised this topic. It's sad they aren't explored more! Daisuke has proof of an active (all)powerful alien/god interface, and part of it is interacting with Daisuke daily :D
 
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What if there are no NPCs, and everyone in this game world is a reincarnation from another reality who will never admit that they receive audiovisual hallucinations within the ninja deathworld?

What if there are untold iterations of every game state, a thousand Narutos and Sasukes each 'piloted' by a different reincarnee?

What if Mariko is a real person too?

Cue Negaverse omakes where this is Mariko-quest. The questers are reacting with great salt to being placed on a team with the hated Daisuke who stole our cousin's friendship from us all those years ago.

Naw...reincarnate AS Mariko
 
So everyone is just Daisuke at a different point of their personal timeline?

I do agree that realistically, there should be more of a narrative impact from the game interface existing.

Remove it, and this would come off as a pretty normal Naruto quest.
 
Weird game mechanics aside, Dai is not operating under the logic that this is just one life in many.

He's very attached to his friends and family. This isn't his second life out of who knows how many to him, it's just his life and it happens to have a few game like quirks.

So expect massive trauma when he finally kicks it.
 
Weird game mechanics aside, Dai is not operating under the logic that this is just one life in many.

He's very attached to his friends and family. This isn't his second life out of who knows how many to him, it's just his life and it happens to have a few game like quirks.

So expect massive trauma when he finally kicks it.

Not to mention it sounds like he grew a lot more attached in this life than in the previous. Either way, I can't wait to go back to the warring clans era
 
Psychologically, it might be better for him to avoid canon next go.

Can't imagine he wants to jump immediately back in to dealing with shadows of his old friends and family.
 
Next time, I bet we end up picking Impossible/Impossible and spawn in one of Oorichomaru's cells, ready to be experimented on.
 
What did you have as the deeper motive? I mean, the upper is totally plausible, but I think it's important to determine why exactly does Daisuke want this. Does he want to just "please the gods" aka get a high score when he dies? Does he feel rage and anguish for human insignificance, and so wants to alleviate his pain by trying to leave a mark in history? Did he get addicted to the feeling of power and just wants more of it? Does he feel guilty and sad because of his low score in the previous life, and so wants to make himself feel worthy again? Or something else?
He simply doesn't want to be unimportant. He's obviously prideful to some extent going by how he's acted so far, so I think he's simply pissed off he was a scrub in his past life.

He doesn't seem like the type to feel guilty / sad / addicted to power, so anger at being weak is probably the most real emotional reason. It's the most major emotion he's displayed so far.
 
Daisuke is pretty invested in this life and I think his motivations are still fairly informed by this life's experiences such as his mother and Tokei's betrayal.
 
Weird game mechanics aside, Dai is not operating under the logic that this is just one life in many.

He's very attached to his friends and family. This isn't his second life out of who knows how many to him, it's just his life and it happens to have a few game like quirks.

So expect massive trauma when he finally kicks it.
If the loss of memories remains consistent, then every life is going to feel like his life.

There won't be any detachment, because while he remembers having a past life, the details elude him.

He'll get plenty attached in every life.

The trauma train has no breaks.
 
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I think it'd be a worthy Goal to start our own Ninja Village. It'd probably be pretty damn hard and far in the future, but the idea is there.

I'm not particularly interested in founding a village, but there are a few way we could go about doing it.

The second "easiest" (as easy as founding a village can be...) way i can think of would be to kill Orochimaru and take Sound. Maybe even make it a "protectorate" of Leaf to avoid becoming a Missing Nin.

That MIGHT spark a war with the other villages though.

Or, alternatively, we could go the iron usurper road, and maybe try to combine ninja and samurai training.
 
I was thinking that, but in a different way. Why not work with the Iron Daimyo? Create a village following the principles of both Samurai and Shinobi to serve the LoI, we don't need to rule an entire Nation.
Yea no. Daisuke have no desire to make a ninja village on Iron.

especially one where we are the first born, bastard or not. That also mean leaving the village for what exactly? Serving the people who tried to killed us? At least the village hasn't done much other than watch.

Thanks Itachi for killing the 2 police ninjas who watch as Tokei attempted to murder a 6 year old.
 
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