The tweet has been deleted I think. What did it say exactly?
Someone said something, can't remember what, then the official Cyberpunk 2077 twitter account comes in with a 'Did you just assume their gender?!' which... is just as bad as when any cis person says it, but considering that they're the official account for a game that has specifically said in interviews will be 'unapologetically political'... yeah.

And when I searched to see if I could grab a google cached version, there are so many transphobic/whatever idiots fucking exulting over CDProjektRed (presumably) feeling the same scummy way that they do, and jumping on any sane person who is disgusted by this, that it's rather disheartening.
 
People should care about you because???
To turn this around,

People should care that you care because?


This is Cyberpunk. The whole 'augmenting flesh is bad but required' thing is part and parasol of it. We've talked about this over and over, each time some new person brings it up.


Not sure what the joke was, but from comments from Pol's it sounds like it was a local joke that really does not work well internationally. They really need a better PR department to watch for this type of stuff.


And still planning to get the game if it's even 50% what my old tabletop book had in it.
 
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The joke was "Did you just assume their gender".
And no, that's not a "local joke that doesn't work well internationally". It's an old, transphobic phrase - basically, it implies that trans people fake outrage about being misgendered. I'll just let someone else explain it:


As for "augmenting flesh is bad": Why do you so heavily insist that this must be a core part of the games theme?
I could now go on about how it just doesn't make sense, but I'd genuinely be interested in getting an explanation from you @GamingGeek what this would acutally add to the themes of the game, beyond "well it was in Cyberpunk 2022".
 
To turn this around,

People should care that you care because?
Of all the hills to die on...

First, this is not a very effective turnaround tbh. @Zaru posted his unsolicited opinion for all to see, so clearly he should expect people to react to said opinion. I questioned why we should care, exactly, especially since he hasn't given us any reason to, and you will notice my post didn't offer my opinion on anything nor did it invite people to care about it.

Come on, what's with people still using "no u" past the age of five?

More than that, his comment was deliberately inflammatory, when several members on this forum, including some in this very thread, are trans people and thus care deeply when a videogame company judges that it should make disdainful comments straight out of alt-right playbook to "trigger the libs/sjws". Making comments on this nature in such a charged discussion is incredibly dumb. It would be one thing if he had expanded on why he still wanted to buy the game, like "I don't think the quality of the game should be judged on a pretty bad PR stunt" or "I think it was just a bad joke, but not enough to stop me from buying the game" or even "I suscribe to death of the author so I will judge the game on its own without judgement on the company" and "I think it was funny, just a joke bro".

Nope, it was just a pithy statement that he doesn't care. Yet if he doesn't, why exactly did he post?

It's like @Athene once said, those type of idiotic drive-by posts in charged topics are basically just asking for this:


There's always the option of "I will keep what I truly think in my heart instead of posting it for all to see", yet people always fail to take it.
 

so they've apologized. Good, I guess.

Other news is that nothing is coming outta gamescon, despite an earlier tweet suggesting something intresting might be imminenet. So there's a general feeling of annoyance about on R/Cyberpunkgame
 
Given the presence of images such as this...


...I'm actually fairly optimistic that CDPR will not go the full "augmenting/modifying the body is bad, cybernetics eat your soul" route. Not utterly without reservation, but fairly optimistic.

While the image above might look ghoulish at first glance (to some, not to me), the presentation is that the snap-on-snap-off face is an utterly ordinary, pedestrain part of this one ordinary person's life. One of the reasons I found the daylight trailer so refreshing was its complete lack of cyber-madness or any other Cybernetics Eat Your Soul aspects (in contrast to the original teaser from five years ago, which did feature a cyber-mad person on a rampage).
 
The joke was "Did you just assume their gender".
And no, that's not a "local joke that doesn't work well internationally". It's an old, transphobic phrase - basically, it implies that trans people fake outrage about being misgendered. I'll just let someone else explain it:
Hm. Ok that's not quite what I thought people were talking about. Bleh, that was rather stupid.

As for "augmenting flesh is bad": Why do you so heavily insist that this must be a core part of the games theme?
I could now go on about how it just doesn't make sense, but I'd genuinely be interested in getting an explanation from you @GamingGeek what this would acutally add to the themes of the game, beyond "well it was in Cyberpunk 2022".

You know what? I actually have agreed with this. I don't like the Humanity trait as it was written in the rulebook.

But where Transhumanity is all about "This is how technology can make you better", Cyberpunk is "This is how technology will make things worse". The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. You have to cut out your parts to compete for jobs, etc and so on.

So why do I insist that it's likely going to remain a core part of the game? Because that's what cyberpunk is for me. That old '80s holdover, when people were scared that Technology was going to replace all humanity (jobs lost to robots), and that we would have to replace our human parts to keep working. I like the dystopia setting, even if I dislike the rule set not allowing you to go full 'Ghost in the Shell' with upgrades.

Like the world of REPO: The Genetic Opera, or Eclipse Phase, that type of setting.



Of all the hills to die on...

First, this is not a very effective turnaround tbh. @Zaru posted his unsolicited opinion for all to see, so clearly he should expect people to react to said opinion. I questioned why we should care, exactly, especially since he hasn't given us any reason to, and you will notice my post didn't offer my opinion on anything nor did it invite people to care about it.

Come on, what's with people still using "no u" past the age of five?

Well, it was more that your response seemed to me as the same type of kneejerk reaction, as if someone else's opinion was worth less than yours. Honestly I shouldn't have done that, it was a bit knee-jerk reaction from my part as well.
 
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A friend of mine who lives in Poland (and is a huge fan of CDPR) isn't too surprised (but dismayed) that they made a joke like this because of how these issues are addressed (or more precisely, not at all) in Polish society, so... there's that too, I guess...

I really hope this is just a PR gaffe and doesn't imply that the game itself will have elements in a similar... unsavory vein.

Disappointing. I do distinctly remember The Witcher 3 making it a point to show that homophobia is bad (the early parts of the Griffin hunt with the gay hunter come to mind), but considering it's very possible to be nominally friendly to gay people and still exclude trans people due to transphobia...

Incidents like this reminds me that, for all it's international acclaim, CDPR is fundamentally a Polish company working in Poland, and that the Western world in general has little to no understanding of what goes on in there.

It's true that transgender issues are not addressed in just about any Polish medium, but I will go further: The overwhelming majority of society, including youth, treats transgender issues as actual non-issues, and dunking on what's commonly derided as "Gender" (acceptance of transgender people, sex changes, demands for greater representation etc.) is both common and socially acceptable. To give you an inkling of just how bad the situation is, some of the worst transphobes I know are Polish liberals. When your company exists and recruits overwhelmingly in that kind of environment (and from what I've heard CDPR isn't desperate for foreign talent - but that was also a good while ago, so things might've changed), it's bound to make mistakes, even if it genuinely tries not to. And I expect gaffes like this to continue, and probably get worse as the patience of Western gamers (the ones who aren't cheering this, of course) runs out.

Whether this will reflect on game at large...I don't know. I do however know that making an official twitter account marketing the game "unapologetically political" is probably wrong call, because in Poland that kinda means gutpunching your sensitive issues and then laughing as you're on the ground and kicking some more.

That said, the fact that they're willing to roll back their statement and make an apology has me somewhat hopeful though. Trust me, if they really didn't give a shit, they wouldn't have done it, and the way gaming is just a toxic trashdump these days, they'd gain a fair few fans by doing so.
 
You know what? I actually have agreed with this. I don't like the Humanity trait as it was written in the rulebook.

But where Transhumanity is all about "This is how technology can make you better", Cyberpunk is "This is how technology will make things worse". The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. You have to cut out your parts to compete for jobs, etc and so on.

So why do I insist that it's likely going to remain a core part of the game? Because that's what cyberpunk is for me. That old '80s holdover, when people were scared that Technology was going to replace all humanity (jobs lost to robots), and that we would have to replace our human parts to keep working. I like the dystopia setting, even if I dislike the rule set not allowing you to go full 'Ghost in the Shell' with upgrades.

Like the world of REPO: The Genetic Opera, or Eclipse Phase, that type of setting.
But you can have a dystopia, while also saying "technology can make things better".
Indeed, if you should show how technology can make things better - by allowing people to express their true selves, by allowing them to reach greater equality, by just making their lives more fun - but then restrict that to just a few individuals, and create a society that heavily limits all of that, and throw in all the limitations such as societal norms and corporate greed. Because that would create a far more compelling dystopia than one where everything is just bleak all the time, because constrast is far better for illustrating.

And that's why Cyberpunk uses people who live on the fringe of society as it's protagonists. But, why are they outcasts?
The unfortunate staple here is the criminal, often hired by corporations for their dirty jobs. It's Shadowruns entire premise, and it shows up plenty in Cyberpunk 2022 as well. It works, but there should be far more.
Political activism should be another - the genre is called Cyberpunk after all. Fighting for individual freedom and against the establishment can easily push you to the fringes of society.
But what personal freedoms? Well, what if society still frowns on some things that would be enabled by technology, but if you do it you'll be at it's fringes?

And that last bit brings us around to real-life trans people.
Because todays medical technology allows us to alter and modify our bodies to fit our gender. And that bodymodification is often frowned upon - people disrespect us for it, make jokes about it, physically attack us, won't hire us, argue that the whole process makes us an abomination and is just "fake", and so on and so forth. Does any of that sound familiar, and like it'd fit into a cyberpunk story?

Now I'm not saying trans women and trans men should still receive the same treatment in your cyberpunk world. Hopefully, there'll be more acceptance by then. But why not instead take another group, one that can not currently benefit from body modification, and put them in our place? Non-binary people, people who would be more comfortable in a non-human body, there's a lot of possibilities.
And of course your game does not then have to be based entirely around that group of people. No, you can still have your criminals, and your activists, and your spoiled rich kids who ran away from home because it's cool to make people who are uncomfortable with politics comfortable. But leaving out the queer people just leaves out what should be the heart of cyberpunk.
 
"This is how technology will make things worse"

Nooo? I mean, sort of. But Cyberpunk has a lot of the time been more about how social economic trends and capitalism will make things worse with technology merely being a genre garnish and the medium for those problems.

Besides, he genre needs to stay relevant to the current times to be more than a pile of 90s cliches which means two things:

1. Showing that more problems come from how our societal system uses technology than the tech itself.

2. Ethnic, sexual, and gender minorities and the actual poor will take the brunt of these problems.
 
And that last bit brings us around to real-life trans people.
Because todays medical technology allows us to alter and modify our bodies to fit our gender. And that bodymodification is often frowned upon - people disrespect us for it, make jokes about it, physically attack us, won't hire us, argue that the whole process makes us an abomination and is just "fake", and so on and so forth. Does any of that sound familiar, and like it'd fit into a cyberpunk story?

Now I'm not saying trans women and trans men should still receive the same treatment in your cyberpunk world. Hopefully, there'll be more acceptance by then. But why not instead take another group, one that can not currently benefit from body modification, and put them in our place? Non-binary people, people who would be more comfortable in a non-human body, there's a lot of possibilities.
And of course your game does not then have to be based entirely around that group of people. No, you can still have your criminals, and your activists, and your spoiled rich kids who ran away from home because it's cool to make people who are uncomfortable with politics comfortable. But leaving out the queer people just leaves out what should be the heart of cyberpunk.

...ok maybe it's just my mindset, but why is this even being brought into the conversation of Cyberpunk at all? I mean I don't know the context of where the comment they made came from. But it's feeling like people are pushing an argument towards an incomplete game for no reason other than "We want transgenders in this"?

I'm being serious. Why does this even matter when you have a PC who's not a fixed gender, and doesn't have a fixed history?
I mean, we don't even know if gender will matter in the plot at all. There's so little we know outside of tweets and show revels.

Man this is making me feel like the old guy in the corner asking this....

(edit) I mean, did I miss some twitter or ongoing online argument on this with this game? I don't follow social media anymore.

Nooo? I mean, sort of. But Cyberpunk has a lot of the time been more about how social economic trends and capitalism will make things worse with technology merely being a genre garnish and the medium for those problems.

Besides, he genre needs to stay relevant to the current times to be more than a pile of 90s cliches which means two things:

1. Showing that more problems come from how our societal system uses technology than the tech itself.

2. Ethnic, sexual, and gender minorities and the actual poor will take the brunt of these problems.

I guess. Not sure, but we'll see if this is an updated setting(which I'd actually like) or truer to it's roots.
 
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Let's put it this way: One of the most cyberpunk-characters I can imagine is a non-straight non-binary catgirl who shares their brain with several personalities, and who had their body appropriately modified to look like a catgirl, but also be able to present different faces on demand for the other personalities, and change other gendered aspects of it as any of them please.

I know someone like that in real life. Except they don't have any of the body mods, obviously, because the technology for them doesn't exist yet.
In a transhumanist story, they could just exist with the bodymods, and without any problems at all.
In a cyberpunk story, they'd have to struggle with being an outsider, with paying for all those mods, with some of those mods using proprietary software (so they better be or know a hacker), and all the soul-crushing corporate jobs instead demanding that they look like a white normative binary gendered supermodel. Oh and they'd fight the fucking system that does all that crap to them.

And yes, you should have people like that in cyberpunk stories. Because people like that exist in real life. So you can only do three things with them in your cyberpunk story:
- pretend they don't exist. But that's just straight-up erasure of people who actually exist, and obviously shitty.
- they exist, but society fully accepts them. But then you're more of a transhumanist story, aren't you?
- they exist, and they're outcasts, and thus at least adjacent to your protagonist. In other words, cyberpunk.

Why does it matter? Why do I want non-normative people in a cyberpunk game?
Well first of all because we exist. But also, because Cyberpunk is about outcasts fighting against the system - and guess who is least likely to be an outcast? Straight people, cisgendered people, neurotypical people, normative people. They still can be, but if they're the only people you're presenting in the role of societal outcast you're actively erasing the non-normative people who should also be there.


As for why I am making such a big fuzz about this:
Once you're saying that changing your body is inherently "profane", you're automatically alienating trans people. Who're actually doing that right now, in real life. So if that is actually what they're going with, in the game, as a central theme - without all the nuance talked about here already, which might simply be missing from current releases - then there's very little chance the game is actually going to contain trans people in any relevant way.
And I'm also quite aware that way too much cyberpunk is using "changing your body is profane" as a central theme, and is also only using straight cisgendered protagonists, and just does a ton of other things that the genre just shouldn't do if it were actually Punk - and because Cyberpunk 2077 so far hasn't given any indication that it isn't doing all of these things.
 
...ok maybe it's just my mindset, but why is this even being brought into the conversation of Cyberpunk at all? I mean I don't know the context of where the comment they made came from. But it's feeling like people are pushing an argument towards an incomplete game for no reason other than "We want transgenders in this"?

I'm being serious. Why does this even matter when you have a PC who's not a fixed gender, and doesn't have a fixed history?
I mean, we don't even know if gender will matter in the plot at all. There's so little we know outside of tweets and show revels.

Man this is making me feel like the old guy in the corner asking this....

(edit) I mean, did I miss some twitter or ongoing online argument on this with this game? I don't follow social media anymore.



I guess. Not sure, but we'll see if this is an updated setting(which I'd actually like) or truer to it's roots.
...because trans people exist, and would quite like to be represented in the media they consume by something with a little more nuance than Buffalo Bill & co.
 
Nooo? I mean, sort of. But Cyberpunk has a lot of the time been more about how social economic trends and capitalism will make things worse with technology merely being a genre garnish and the medium for those problems.

Besides, he genre needs to stay relevant to the current times to be more than a pile of 90s cliches which means two things:

1. Showing that more problems come from how our societal system uses technology than the tech itself.

2. Ethnic, sexual, and gender minorities and the actual poor will take the brunt of these problems.
Cyberpunk is very much about dystopia through technology as a means; that's the whole portmanteau. You can entirely reasonably have a cyberpunk setting which is a terrible anarchist mess just as much as one that's corporate controlled. Capitalism is just an easy way to do this but it's not the core of the idea.
 
...ok maybe it's just my mindset, but why is this even being brought into the conversation of Cyberpunk at all? I mean I don't know the context of where the comment they made came from. But it's feeling like people are pushing an argument towards an incomplete game for no reason other than "We want transgenders in this"?

I'm being serious. Why does this even matter when you have a PC who's not a fixed gender, and doesn't have a fixed history?
I mean, we don't even know if gender will matter in the plot at all. There's so little we know outside of tweets and show revels.

Man this is making me feel like the old guy in the corner asking this....

(edit) I mean, did I miss some twitter or ongoing online argument on this with this game? I don't follow social media anymore.



I guess. Not sure, but we'll see if this is an updated setting(which I'd actually like) or truer to it's roots.

Transgender people are literal transhumanism and cyberpunk made flesh. We use technology to alter our bodies in order to become closer to the selves we want to express to the world. Just because a lot of cyberpunk fans ignore our existence doesn't make us any less of a real presence in the fandom.

Trans people are also often fans of works, worlds, and settings where it is possible to alter yourself in order to become the person you want to be. It's a running theme in our lives.
 

so they've apologized. Good, I guess.

Other news is that nothing is coming outta gamescon, despite an earlier tweet suggesting something intresting might be imminenet. So there's a general feeling of annoyance about on R/Cyberpunkgame

That's... not actually an apology. I mean, look at the language used: "Sorry to all those offended by one of the responses sent out from our account earlier. Harming anyone was never our intention."

They've not admitted responsibility for saying hurtful things and instead have implied that it's other people's fault for being hurt, and they're trying to distance their brand from the tweet. What they said was hurtful and the tweet didn't just appear fully formed from out the aether, a social media employee made it on the official twitter account for Cyberpunk 2077.

An actual apology would be something like: "We apologize unreservedly for the hurtful language used in an earlier tweet. We will endeavour to never repeat that mistake."
 
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...I'm actually fairly optimistic that CDPR will not go the full "augmenting/modifying the body is bad, cybernetics eat your soul" route. Not utterly without reservation, but fairly optimistic.

I mean CP2020 had Humanity and *also* simultaneously had ubiquitous cybernetic augmentation on basically everyone.

What is interesting is reading Cyberpunk V3 and how it entirely abandons Humanity as a stat though, despite the fact that any character you start out with is likely augmented to the nines (or a drone controller). It does seem like *Pondsmith* has rethought his stance on cybernetics and their dehumanizing effect at some point between the 90s and the early 2000s.

The question is whether he's had another rethink and whether CDPR has gotten the memo.
 
I mean CP2020 had Humanity and *also* simultaneously had ubiquitous cybernetic augmentation on basically everyone.

What is interesting is reading Cyberpunk V3 and how it entirely abandons Humanity as a stat though, despite the fact that any character you start out with is likely augmented to the nines (or a drone controller). It does seem like *Pondsmith* has rethought his stance on cybernetics and their dehumanizing effect at some point between the 90s and the early 2000s.

The question is whether he's had another rethink and whether CDPR has gotten the memo.

How does Humanity wok on tabletop and how did players balance that with bionics? Is it possible for a late game player not to have any bionics at all and still be viable?
 
How does Humanity wok on tabletop and how did players balance that with bionics? Is it possible for a late game player not to have any bionics at all and still be viable?

Ok. So back then, humanity/soul/whatever for that specific Cyberpunk game was meant to be a game-balance thing, as well as a theatrical thing. (If you watched Robocop, the other cyborgs that all went mad? That was a good part of what people believed in media of the time.) It was designed so that if you tried to push your luck, then you went mad/thought everyone else wasn't worth the same as you/lost your soul/etc, again depending on the game.

Honestly it was just stupidly done in many cases. I mean, you lost 'humanity' for replacing a toe or a finger. Having a medical implant that injected drugs, stuff that we have in real life right now. All of that counted against you.

It's clearly not needed, but you have to remember that back in the late 80's we had a strong swing in tabletop RPG's to limit player's abilities to derail games. White Wolf's d10 system was designed to make combat as hard as it could be, Call of Cthulhu was specifically designed to punish the players. (Sadly not even a joke) So I'm guessing that influenced the Humanity cost thing.

It was also before we started seeing anime and other media influences showing cybernetics as something that heroes and good guys used. I have to be honest, I'm glad that the general feel towards cybernetics became more positive.
 
It's clearly not needed, but you have to remember that back in the late 80's we had a strong swing in tabletop RPG's to limit player's abilities to derail games. White Wolf's d10 system was designed to make combat as hard as it could be, Call of Cthulhu was specifically designed to punish the players. (Sadly not even a joke) So I'm guessing that influenced the Humanity cost thing..

I mean White Wolf's d10 system did that by being absolute garbage at combat not by actually making combat punishing or having harsh consequences. >.>
 
It was also before we started seeing anime and other media influences showing cybernetics as something that heroes and good guys used. I have to be honest, I'm glad that the general feel towards cybernetics became more positive.
I assume that thousands of veterans coming back from the Middle East with limbs shot or blown off also made the whole idea of "replacing your human body parts with mechanical bits will make you less human" kinda tasteless in the popular mind.
 
Transgender people are literal transhumanism and cyberpunk made flesh. We use technology to alter our bodies in order to become closer to the selves we want to express to the world. Just because a lot of cyberpunk fans ignore our existence doesn't make us any less of a real presence in the fandom.

Trans people are also often fans of works, worlds, and settings where it is possible to alter yourself in order to become the person you want to be. It's a running theme in our lives.

I have a very close friend who is trans and I don't know that she feels any particular kinship with even Gunther Herman. I also think that framing cyberpunk as being a genre about altering yourself to become who you want to be somewhat presents a different picture than that painted by the works that exist in the genre. Adam Jensen's iconic line is I didn't ask for this and that's not some outlier. When we look at cyborgs in fiction they are typically either repairing a damaged body ala the Six Million Dollar Man or doing so in order to maintain competitive advantage in an employment environment made hellish by out of control capitalism. Not always, but it's one of the recurring features of cyberpunk stories.

That you identify with the promise posed by the technology is not outrageous, obviously. But the genre is not, and should not, be by nature positive. It's a critique of all too real shifts in the social landscape due to the growing power of corporations and the distorting effect of money on communities.

Also, this is somewhat more abstract, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the notion of voluntary cybernetics as being a source of personal disassociation. I am a transhumanist so I'm hardly opposed to self-modification and I personally really hope to see a day where the technology exists to repair sickness or bodily damage or whatever, but we're not talking about gradual means to achieve change. We're talking getting perfectly functionally limbs getting chopped off or internal organs getting pulled out in favour of industrial hardware. Hardware that is, in the end, just like any other piece of consumer electronics. We already live in world where planned obsolesence is rife. Your phone goes out of date a year after it's released. What if that was your heart? Part of your brain? Part of what makes cyberpunk so engaging is that knowledge, watching characters stuck in a loop of needing cutting edge cybernetics they can't afford just to stay relevant in the job market so they can afford more cutting edge cybernetics so they can continue to be relevant in the job market. The harrowing world of corporate extravagance. Of capitalism out of control.
 
I have a very close friend who is trans and I don't know that she feels any particular kinship with even Gunther Herman. I also think that framing cyberpunk as being a genre about altering yourself to become who you want to be somewhat presents a different picture than that painted by the works that exist in the genre. Adam Jensen's iconic line is I didn't ask for this and that's not some outlier. When we look at cyborgs in fiction they are typically either repairing a damaged body ala the Six Million Dollar Man or doing so in order to maintain competitive advantage in an employment environment made hellish by out of control capitalism. Not always, but it's one of the recurring features of cyberpunk stories.

That you identify with the promise posed by the technology is not outrageous, obviously. But the genre is not, and should not, be by nature positive. It's a critique of all too real shifts in the social landscape due to the growing power of corporations and the distorting effect of money on communities.

Also, this is somewhat more abstract, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the notion of voluntary cybernetics as being a source of personal disassociation. I am a transhumanist so I'm hardly opposed to self-modification and I personally really hope to see a day where the technology exists to repair sickness or bodily damage or whatever, but we're not talking about gradual means to achieve change. We're talking getting perfectly functionally limbs getting chopped off or internal organs getting pulled out in favour of industrial hardware. Hardware that is, in the end, just like any other piece of consumer electronics. We already live in world where planned obsolesence is rife. Your phone goes out of date a year after it's released. What if that was your heart? Part of your brain? Part of what makes cyberpunk so engaging is that knowledge, watching characters stuck in a loop of needing cutting edge cybernetics they can't afford just to stay relevant in the job market so they can afford more cutting edge cybernetics so they can continue to be relevant in the job market. The harrowing world of corporate extravagance. Of capitalism out of control.

i mean i know cyberpunk is awful i'm fucking living it my dude. i live paycheck to paycheck and my complicated electronic devices are slowly moving towards their planned obsolescence. corporations are destroying the world, my state is constantly on fire, and there's not a lot of hope for the future. shit sucks. Capitalism is already of control. in fact trans people ar emore likely to be economically disadvantaged, unemployed, or underemployed.

also like, that doesn't mean i can't wish for technologies that would let me be happy and identify with the positive implications of such technology and dream of being a neon-haired hacker girl fighting the good fight against capitalism.

also 'i have a trans friend' is just as facile and flaccid as 'i have a black friend' maybe don't do that.

EDIT: honestly the more I think about it, the more angry I get about this post.
 
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