Constellations (Worm/Okami)

Parselmaster · Nov 2, 2019

The fruits of operation bookmark are glorious indeed. Thank you for the chapter, @UnwelcomeStorm.

The onsen is progressing! Glory be! Nothing better than hot water in the cold! And speaking of progress...

Armsmaster is coming to grips with his behavior. Nice to see that self-awareness building.

Pinklestia · Nov 2, 2019

Her animal is foxes but they can have evil connotations while Japanese like wolfves since they made them extinct in japan.

OffBrandANON · Nov 2, 2019

Pinklestia said:
Her animal is foxes but they can have evil connotations while Japanese like wolfves since they made them extinct in japan.

foxes are more inari's thing, and they don't really have evil connotations, mostly neutral ones. and... i'm not actually sure what you're trying to say about wolves.

SwiftRosenthal · Nov 2, 2019

OffBrandANON said:
foxes are more inari's thing, and they don't really have evil connotations, mostly neutral ones. and... i'm not actually sure what you're trying to say about wolves.

It might've been awkward to have a good fox and a very evil fox co-star in the same game.

OffBrandANON · Nov 2, 2019

SwiftRosenthal said:
It might've been awkward to have a good fox and a very evil fox co-star in the same game.

the reason she's a wolf in the game is because wolf(okami) and great kami(o-kami) are said the same way, and wolves are general divine messengers. also, probably wouldn't of been that awkward to have both the hero and a villain be a fox.

Valdimarian · Nov 2, 2019

IIRC there's two types of Foxes, one who are neutral / good tricksters who are either messengers of the gods or fey and who's tricks are usually some form of morality tale.

Then there's the evil type, who are more classically evil and play mean tricks or just cause havoc.

The zenko (善狐, literally 'good foxes') are benevolent, celestial foxes associated with Inari; they are sometimes simply called Inari foxes in English.
On the other hand, the yako (野狐, literally 'field foxes', also called nogitsune) tend to be mischievous or even malicious.[11][full citation needed]

qsurf · Nov 2, 2019

Generally Kitsune have a kind of built-in morality scale, the more...I won't say benevolent, but more...true to Inari's Will they are as they grow older and gain more tails, the more sacred/divine (Zenko) they get until they ascend to becoming kami in their own right to serve Inari (Tenko).

Those that are malevolent grow into man or liver-eating youkai (Nogitsune) with each tail they gain.

Deathwings · Nov 2, 2019

It's all because Japan fucking LOVE their freaking puns.

Captain Carrot · Nov 2, 2019

Blaflaix said:
"Do you know how many regulations you broke with your little stunt?"

"Well, none actually. I checked."

"Even if you weaseled around the standing regs, you undermined the position of the Protectorate in the current strategic context. Don't think a few minutes skimming the handbook lets you do whatever you want."

"As it happens, I am extremely well-versed in labor regulations, and also the ways managers attempt to infringe upon them to exploit workers."

I'm at a loss for how deploying Protectorate resources to aid a small business and Neutral Ground is in any way a bad thing.

RBomber · Nov 2, 2019

Captain Carrot said:
I'm at a loss for how deploying Protectorate resources to aid a small business and Neutral Ground is in any way a bad thing.

In general, that's basically government/ government sponsored organization infringing into civilian sector. It's something heavily frowned upon in America, and in general a bad governmental practice (especially in democratic, capitalistic nation) because it's undercut and potentially suffocate private sector.

That's more or less the gist of it.

qsurf · Nov 2, 2019

Captain Carrot said:
I'm at a loss for how deploying Protectorate resources to aid a small business and Neutral Ground is in any way a bad thing.

RBomber said:
In general, that's basically government/ government sponsored organization infringing into civilian sector. It's something heavily frowned upon in America, and in general a bad governmental practice (especially in democratic, capitalistic nation) because it's undercut and potentially suffocate private sector.

That's more or less the gist of it.

It also runs the risk of sending a message of something akin to "this is Protectorate Territory" that can screw up the Shrine's perceived Neutrality.

Hazard · Nov 2, 2019

RBomber said:
In general, that's basically government/ government sponsored organization infringing into civilian sector. It's something heavily frowned upon in America, and in general a bad governmental practice (especially in democratic, capitalistic nation) because it's undercut and potentially suffocate private sector.

That's more or less the gist of it.

That, however, does not mean that civil servants are forbidden from volunteering their time, or from having a second job if they feel it necessary. Piggot doesn't have much of a leg to stand on so long as Danny doesn't bring government resources into the matter.

qsurf said:
It also runs the risk of sending a message of something akin to "this is Protectorate Territory" that can screw up the Shrine's perceived Neutrality.

This would be a more valid argument, but it runs into the problem that Taylor is known to be his daughter and that his secret identity no longer is.

RBomber · Nov 2, 2019

Hazard said:
That, however, does not mean that civil servants are forbidden from volunteering their time, or from having a second job if they feel it necessary.

Actually, an ideal government would not allow its civil servants to have another job, especially because in many cases, their second job could and would clashes with their civil servant responsibilities. It's basically gateway to corruption.

Appletank · Nov 2, 2019

Why get a rental when Danny could just like, grow a Hot Wheels van? Hot wheels are sick.

Hazard · Nov 2, 2019

RBomber said:
Actually, an ideal government would not allow its civil servants to have another job, especially because in many cases, their second job could and would clashes with their civil servant responsibilities. It's basically gateway to corruption.

Yes.

Of course, that presumes that the government in question would pay enough that another job would be unnecessary.

RBomber · Nov 2, 2019

Appletank said:
Why get a rental when Danny could just like, grow a Hot Wheels van? Hot wheels are sick.

Either some limitations with his power, some NDA with PRT regarding his use of power in public....

Or, you know, just being practical since he also bring mundane tools and volunteers and family friends to help, and making a functional Hot Wheels that accomodate all of them was (un)surprisingly tedious? Danny seems to regard his power as tool, not a part of his self, IMHO.

Edit: Also, because his power effectively only works on models he worked with extensively, and Danny doesn't seem like Hot Wheels Guy.

Blaflaix · Nov 2, 2019

Captain Carrot said:
I'm at a loss for how deploying Protectorate resources to aid a small business and Neutral Ground is in any way a bad thing.

You'll never be a proper bureaucrat with defeatist talk like that.
They can find a problem with anything!

AspBlastUSA · Nov 2, 2019

Appletank said:
Why get a rental when Danny could just like, grow a Hot Wheels van? Hot wheels are sick.

Is there any indication he didn't? Taylor assumes he's gotten a rental but she's also very new to the knowledge that her dad is also Chessman.

Ash19256 · Nov 2, 2019

AspBlastUSA said:
Is there any indication he didn't? Taylor assumes he's gotten a rental but she's also very new to the knowledge that her dad is also Chessman.

IIRC, one of the rules of his power is that his stuff has to be a part of a game of some sort - so, unless there's a game out there that uses Hot Wheels cars as pieces that Danny is intimately familiar with, I doubt that he'd be able to use them. IIRC, the only reason he could use the Chimera that Taylor painted for him was that it was scaled to work as a D&D/Pathfinder miniature.

RBomber · Nov 2, 2019

Ash19256 said:
IIRC, one of the rules of his power is that his stuff has to be a part of a game of some sort - so, unless there's a game out there that uses Hot Wheels cars as pieces

Well, technically all Hot Wheels car can be considered part of several games. It's just... not exactly board games.

Hot Wheels - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In addition to the cars themselves, Mattel produced a racing track set (sold separately). Though it would be updated throughout the years, the original track consisted of a series of brightly colored orange road sections (pieced together to form an oblong, circular race track), with one (or sometimes two) "super chargers" (faux service stations through which cars passed on the tracks, featuring battery-powered spinning wheels, which would propel the cars along the tracks).[6]An important feature here was Hot Wheel's use of wide, hard-plastic tires that created much less friction and tracked more smoothly than the narrow metal or plastic wheels used on contemporary Matchboxes; Hot Wheels cars were designed to roll easily and at high speeds, which was a great innovation at the time. [7]

I'm still on opinion that it was rented van, though. Less headache inducing for Danny, figuratively and literally.

Jacen1 · Nov 2, 2019

Appletank said:
Why get a rental when Danny could just like, grow a Hot Wheels van? Hot wheels are sick.

Hot Wheels cars generally don't have doors that can open and close, for one thing.

I'm sure, with a bit of time and effort, Danny can put together a model car or van his powers can work with that he could drive around in. I'm equally sure such a vehicle would lack the needed features to pass a safety inspection in most states, and would also be less safe in a crash then any street legal car or van. So, overall, despite the cost, it would be better to get a real van then use a power produced one in most cases.

AspBlastUSA · Nov 2, 2019

Ash19256 said:
IIRC, one of the rules of his power is that his stuff has to be a part of a game of some sort - so, unless there's a game out there that uses Hot Wheels cars as pieces that Danny is intimately familiar with, I doubt that he'd be able to use them. IIRC, the only reason he could use the Chimera that Taylor painted for him was that it was scaled to work as a D&D/Pathfinder miniature.

Army men are a valid use of his powers apparently, and those aren't part of most games either.

Jacen1 said:
Hot Wheels cars generally don't have doors that can open and close, for one thing.

Model chimeras don't shoot fire, and model tanks don't have working cannons. I think it's fair to say that when Chessman animates a model it's features change to more closely match that of the thing it's modeled after, at least for the duration of the animation.

M. H. Fuzzball · Nov 2, 2019

By renting the van, he saves his power for the workers for the hot spring. Everybody's got a limit, after all.

Archeo Lumiere · Nov 2, 2019

AspBlastUSA said:
Model chimeras don't shoot fire

This one is arguably a power interaction, as Chessman had been noted, prior to this incident, as being unable to produce esoteric effects with his pawns.

AspBlastUSA said:
model tanks don't have working cannons.

This, however, is a known effect of his power on anything that depicts machinery.

RBomber · Nov 2, 2019

AspBlastUSA said:
Army men are a valid use of his powers apparently, and those aren't part of most games either.

Actually....

AspBlastUSA said:
Model chimeras don't shoot fire,

Archeo Lumiere said:
This one is arguably a power interaction, as Chessman had been noted, prior to this incident, as being unable to produce esoteric effects with his pawns.

Yeah, this one is all on Sunny. That chimera is painted by Taylor... using Sunny's hair (made into brush).

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