[X] Plan Ask The Magic Kyuu-Ball

Sorry I hadn't been voting for a while; my net just randomly decided to turn to shit for a while back to the point I'd need to wait 5-10 minutes for the net to reconnect for long enough to load a page.
It's not like Grails haven't made up heroes in the past anyways (looking at you Kojiro Sasaki/False Assassin).
The Grail didn't just make him up, though. He didn't exist, so the Grail took ah few dudes who each had traits that Sasaki Kojiro was alleged to have (One guy hated swallows so much that he honed his skill into borderline True Magic, one guy wielded the Monohoshizao, one guy was actually a rival of Musashi's though not as good as the alleged Sasaki Kojiro etc) and created a wraith based on them to approximate the legend. I don't think there are any Servants who were flat out made up instead of being a mishmash wraith of several other entities.
 
[X] Plan Ask The Magic Kyuu-Ball

Sorry I hadn't been voting for a while; my net just randomly decided to turn to shit for a while back to the point I'd need to wait 5-10 minutes for the net to reconnect for long enough to load a page.

The Grail didn't just make him up, though. He didn't exist, so the Grail took ah few dudes who each had traits that Sasaki Kojiro was alleged to have (One guy hated swallows so much that he honed his skill into borderline True Magic, one guy wielded the Monohoshizao, one guy was actually a rival of Musashi's though not as good as the alleged Sasaki Kojiro etc) and created a wraith based on them to approximate the legend. I don't think there are any Servants who were flat out made up instead of being a mishmash wraith of several other entities.
That is indeed what I was trying to convey. The whole entity was made up, with traits cherry-picked from other things such as the things you listed off.

Anyway, removed the 'Ask it if Madoka's potential can rewrite reality' part.
 
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Day 22 Chapter 5
[X] Plan Ask The Magic Kyuu-Ball


"Incubator."

"Archer."

You have to grit your teeth and bear it when you ask "How are you? Are you staying out of trouble?"

"I have not experienced any ill encounters with Akemi Homura since our last meeting. I suppose that would fit your definition."

"It'll have to do." You wish that someone could see the little bastard, standing right there in the hall. You wish that some nurse, overworked and underpaid, would swoop in to remove this stray before it has the chance to meddle in the affairs of the children laid up just a floor above your head. But the Incubator is invisible to non-magical eyes, so wish as you might, no reprieve is coming. "The last time I saw you, you had made a deal with Akemi to remain mutually non-aggressive in exchange for cooperation in dealing with Assassin. How are things coming on your end?"

"I am still unclear as to the nature of this 'Assassin' which Akemi Homura and her allies are attempting to track. She claims that it is a witch, yet it gives off the same distinct magical impression as that of yourself and the other entities like yourself, a fact which Sakura Kyouko unwittingly confirmed to me. I have not been able to verify their existence for myself, so I have been forced to rely on outside information, of which there is little beyond that which I have already stated, and I am unsure as to which claim is truthful; or indeed, how this 'Assassin' can be two things at once. Is it a witch, or an entity such as yourself?"

"Both, to an extent. Assassin is both an entity like myself, and a witch. And no, at no point was she ever a puella magi. She was brought into the world as she is now." You give the Incubator a few moments to take in your words, waiting to see if it ever acknowledges that it accepts what you've said. It never does; its stare remains ever unblinking, with no indication into anything that's going on inside its marshmallow head. "But that doesn't explain what you're doing here. Care to tell me how investigating Assassin has brought you to the local hospital?"

"I told you before, Archer. The results of Mikuni Oriko's actions have cost my operations in this sector dearly. I have a pressing need to return balance to the natural order. New puella magi are required, and new potential candidates have just made themselves available."

"Yes, I imagine that Mikuni has given you quite the headache these past few weeks." You'll never admit it, but knowing that Mikuni is responsible for messing up the Incubator's plans to the extent that she has makes you feel the slightest hint of pride in her abilities. "Fortunately, you can rest easy knowing that she and Kure are no longer in a position to be culling the local puella magi population. But I need to ask, just for posterity's sake, what are the chances that a puella magi from out of town has it in for either of them and is planning on coming here for revenge?"

"I would imagine it to be incredibly likely."

"And I imagine, by the way you're wording your response, that getting her name is out of the question."

"That is correct."

Your master isn't liable to find that to be good news, but it's worthwhile news all the same. A shame about not getting her name, but at least you can tell her to be prepared. "Well, maybe you can tell me what else you've found out while wandering. Is there anything you can tell me about the anomalies that have been popping up lately? Maybe there's something in particular that's caught your eye as being potentially volatile or dangerous?"

"I have seen you patrolling this sector much the same as I have. There is nothing that I am aware of that you are not."

"That's not the first time today you've called this city a 'sector'. Is this the only city that falls under your 'sector' or are there others?"

"I fail to see how that question is relevant to the conversation at hand, Archer."

"On the contrary, I think it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask." The Incubator stares at you. You don't bother wasting the thought that it might disagree with you. "The anomalies in this city have completely thrown whatever plans you had into the trash, and now you're scrambling to patch things up in time for Walpurgisnacht. Another anomaly like Assassin popping up somewhere else in your 'sector', now, when you're still struggling to get your plan back on track, would be about the worst possible thing for you. And fortunately for you, headaches over these anomalies is something that Akemi has been having as well. In other words, if you've got anomalies popping up elsewhere that we don't know about, telling me helps me do my job, which in turn helps you to do yours. But before I'm able to ask if there's anything that has you running around elsewhere in this 'sector', I'd first need to know just how big your 'sector' is, as a bit of reference data."

"Rather than rely on an anomaly such as yourself, or a disagreeable irregular such as Akemi Homura, it would be more helpful to me to know how these anomalies come into existence so that I may deal with them on my own terms."

"Perhaps, but you did agree to cooperate with Akemi on this one. Cooperating with her means cooperating with me."

"I only said that I would take her request into consideration. At no point did I say that I would accept her offer."

You cross your arms, doing your best to refrain from scowling at the little white shit. "Unfortunately, you have me there. I take it to mean that you won't be answering my question?"

"That is correct."

"I have one more question I need to ask you." The Incubator continues to stare at you. If it had a human face, with human emotions, you wonder whether it would have gotten tired of you poking around in its business by now. "You've expressed an interest in contracting Kaname Madoka, but I have yet to see you try anything. Taking my asking this question into consideration, when are you planning on on making your move?"

"As long as Kaname Madoka is contracted in time for Walpurgisnacht, it does not matter how long it takes. Any more than that is irrelevant to Akemi Homura's desires."

[ ] Wat do?​
 
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But I need to ask, just for posterity's sake, what are the chances that one of your new contractees will come this way to try and take revenge on either Mikuni or Kure?
Uh... this was supposed to be a question as to if there are any Puella Magi from other cities that are looking to take revenge against Oriko and Kirika for, you know, possibly killing their allies or friends. Not new Puella Magi. Also Archer never asked when the Incubator plans to contact Madoka, nor was it specifically asked if there are any other anomalies taking place in any other city that's not Mitakihara.
 
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Uh... this was supposed to be a question as to if there are any Puella Magi from other cities that are looking to take revenge against Oriko and Kirika for, you know, possibly killing their allies or friends. Not new Puella Magi. Also Archer never asked when the Incubator plans to contact Madoka, nor was it specifically asked if there are any other anomalies taking place in any other city that's not Mitakihara.

Be glad that it was even that. I can't write long conversations with Kyubey and only Kyubey worth a damn, because no matter what I'm given to work with and no matter how long I let it sit there, the right words just don't come to me. I'll get around to fixing it tomorrow, probably, but in the meantime I wanted to at least have something to put out so as not to hold things up. Just carry on as usual and pretend that it doesn't suck, because it'll still probably suck even after I change it.
 
[X] As a final followup question, ask the Incubator if it knows around when this Puella Magi will be visiting Mitakihara, if she hasn't already entered the city.
[X] Stay in Astral Form and attempt to observe Kyuubey's actions in the hospital from afar by looking through the hospital's many windows (particularly those of patients) using your Clairvoyance skill. While informing your Master of the information you managed to get out of the Incubator, try and identify which girls Kyuubey is attempting to turn into Puella Magi. If the Incubator leaves without contracting some or all of them for the time being, ask your Master for permission to reveal yourself to them in order to dissuade them from becoming Puella Magi.

The revised version is a definite improvement to the first draft and it came out really good, SVS.

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Omake, side Caren - Family Matters
The offered pill and accompanying glass of water are accepted by the raven-haired girl, followed with a "Thank you, Nurse Ortensia." There's a hint of distrust in her voice, a hint that the nurse had noticed in the girl's voice for some time now. Her eyes trail downwards, to an opened folder splayed out on the desk, and asked "Is that McRemitz-san's report?"

"She dropped it off this morning before classes started." A hand quickly closes the envelope. "I have the distinct feeling that she's leaving out some important information, but I suppose it's none of my business, as long as she's doing her job."

"I see." The girl nods, turning back towards the pink-haired girl waiting for her in the hall. "Come on Madoka, let's get back to class." The pink-haired girl nods and hums approvingly, and the two depart hand-in-hand.

A gentle creak follows as the swivel chair turns around, facing towards the window. "And don't come back again unless you're actually sick, Akemi," Nurse Ortensia whispered under her breath.

With Akemi's departure, the office was once again devoid of children, and Caren could return to her job- Her real job, not this asinine farce she had to put up with every day. "Three years," she said with a sigh, as she reached for the cup of honey-lemon tea that had been set aside upon Akemi's arrival. "I can't believe I've been at this for three years already." Mitakihara was one of Japan's shining symbols of modernity; downtown and uptown were thick, sprawling canopies of steel and glass, and the city's leylines were shrinking and decaying commensurate with the expansive growth. Three years ago, Caren had thought nothing of her new assignment. Three years ago, Caren would have never imagined that she'd have a front-row seat to a Grail War in a city that, completely cut off from establishment concepts, had developed its own unique style of magecraft.

"And to think, all this because the last priest went nuts and killed his family." Golden eyes flit across the open pages of Bazett's most recent report, to the section briefly describing the redheaded master of Rider. "Well, tried to, anyway."

While information about Sakura Kyouko herself was scarce, Bazett had gone to great effort to dig up what information she could about the Sakura family as a whole, with some surprising results. Genealogical and historical records - scans of original documents made before the fire - showed that the family could trace its roots back to sixteenth-century converts from Portuguese Nagasaki. Several members of the family, apocryphally, were participants in the Shimabara Rebellion, after which the family married into and out of Christianity several times, and only permanently settled into Christianity after the Meiji Restoration brought back religious freedom. Official records from the Church showed that the father Sakura had been transferred several times between the mid-eighties and early nineties; Nagasaki; Kumamoto; Tokyo, where he met his wife; before being transferred to Kazamino shortly after the birth of his first daughter. Surprisingly, despite the lengthy history of the Sakura family, there didn't seem to be any evidence of mage blood in their family at all.

"The father must have been like Kirei's father, then," Caren touched a finger to her lips, as the fingers of her other hand drummed against the page. "I wonder if it's worth it to keep a closer eye on her? The Church might be interested in reclaiming one of their own..."

"And then, there's this one..." Bazett had written at length about the fifth member of Akemi's circle of mages, one Mikuni Oriko. Fifteen years old, no evidence of being a master, orphaned but lives with her girlfriend and mentee Kure Kirika. "A sizable mansion and familial wealth, along with a superb proficiency with magecraft, indicates her possible status as Mitakihara's Second Owner," the report read. Scribbled in the margins, in Bazett's own handwriting, were the words "I would ask her, but I doubt she'd understand what the term meant, and even if I told her there's no guarantee that Mitakihara's mages practice second ownership."

Most of what remained of Bazett's report on Mikuni, as was the case with Sakura Kyouko, was devoted to detailing what family history she had dug up at the library's archives. Her mother had died of pancreatic cancer when Oriko was six, and her father had committed suicide just the past December- That, at least, Caren hadn't needed to read about.

"Our top story this morning, Mikuni Hisaomi, Mitakihara's Public Works director, was found dead in his mansion yesterday afternoon. Many of you may remember that Mikuni, a favourite to win the bid for city mayor in the upcoming election, had recently come under fire by opponents critical of his platform who accused him of abusing his position and using it to embezzle funds into his personal bank account. With Mikuni's apparent suicide yesterday afternoon, it looks like his opponent's claims may have had some truth to them. His older brother, Kanagawa MP Mikuni Kimihide of the House of Representatives, had this to say-"

"As a man, while I may mourn the loss of my younger brother and wish only the best for his daughter's future, as a politician and representative of the Mikuni name to the Japanese people I must publicly and emphatically condemn his disgraceful actions. I hope that the people of Mitakihara, of all of Kanagawa prefecture, and indeed, of all of Japan will allow me to beg for their forgiveness where my shameful brother cannot, and I implore my niece to do the same, lest the consequences of his sins be visited upon her in his stead."

A mayoral aspirant and a member of the Diet
. "With Mikuni's father and uncle both playing the part of high-profile politicians with well-detailed family histories, it seems doubtful for that side of the family to be the source of her mage lineage," the report read. "About her mother, Yurako, there is much less doubt. Records about her are spotty; all I was able to find was a birth certificate dating from 1969, a marriage certificate dating from 1991, and a death certificate dating from 2001..."

Caren turned the page, lightly chuckling to herself as she read Bazett's findings. "... As far as I could tell, no official records exist of Mikuni Yurako's parents. What little evidence I could find pointed to her mother having moved from Italy to Japan shortly after marrying her husband, himself native Japanese. I can only conclude that the reasoning behind such a spotty record is due to a desire to hide the mother's mage lineage from the public."

Similar to the earlier note regarding Mikuni's status as Second Owner of Mitakihara, Bazett had left another note scrawled in the margins of the page. "I'm curious to know more about Mikuni's lineage. I'll try to see if I can dig up records of any Italian mage families with a daughter that eloped to Japan, when I get the chance."

Caren smiled, reaching for the telephone at her desk. Carefully, she dialed a number she had known by heart since the age of five. Waiting a few seconds, she spoke. "Grandma Sophia, it's Caren... Yes, I'm doing well, thank you. ... Listen, I was wondering if I could ask you a few questions about someone..."​
 
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[X] As a final followup question, ask the Incubator if it knows around when this Puella Magi will be visiting Mitakihara, if she hasn't already entered the city.
[X] Stay in Astral Form and attempt to observe Kyuubey's actions in the hospital from afar by looking through the hospital's many windows (particularly those of patients) using your Clairvoyance skill. While informing your Master of the information you managed to get out of the Incubator, try and identify which girls Kyuubey is attempting to turn into Puella Magi. If the Incubator leaves without contracting some or all of them for the time being, ask your Master for permission to reveal yourself to them in order to dissuade them from becoming Puella Magi.
 
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Day 22 Chapter 6
[X] As a final followup question, ask the Incubator if it knows around when this puella magi will be visiting Mitakihara, if she hasn't already entered the city.
[X] Stay in Astral Form and attempt to observe Kyubey's actions in the hospital from afar by looking through the hospital's many windows using your Clairvoyance skill. While informing your Master of the information you managed to get out of the Incubator, try and identify which girls Kyubey is attempting to turn into Puella Magi. If the Incubator leaves without contracting some or all of them for the time being, ask your Master for permission to reveal yourself to them in order to dissuade them from becoming puella magi.​



"As long as Kaname Madoka is contracted in time for Walpurgisnacht, it does not matter how long it takes. Any more than that is irrelevant to Akemi Homura's desires."

Any more than that is irrelevant to your master's desires. Your arms are still crossed and you can't help but leer down at the little white shit. "Well, I'd love to stay and chat awhile longer, but I'm afraid I have to get back to work. But before I go, I just have one last question- For real, this time."

The Incubator doesn't show it, but even through its soulless cherry-candy eyes, you're sure that it's gotten just as tired of this conversation as you have. "I hope that this time you speak the truth when you say that, Archer. I too have work which must be resumed."

"Right. I'll keep it simple, then. Earlier, you said that it was likely that a puella magi from out of town would be heading here to do Mikuni in. Got any idea when we can expect to see her?"

"I imagine that she will arrive when she feels the time is right. Any more than that, I cannot say." With that, the Incubator walks silently between your legs, passing you, and rounding the corner. You try to follow, but as soon as the little rat shit was around that corner, it was gone.

"Master, I've made contact with the Incubator at the hospital. I'm sure it's planning to try tossing its little recruitment pitch to one or two of the girls in the children's ward. Also, we've got trouble."

"As if the Incubator putting more pieces back on its side of the board weren't bad enough,"
rings the voice of your master inside your head. "What else are we in for?"

"Apparently, Mikuni's made herself an enemy out of some puella magi from a neighboring city, and she's likely heading our way some time in the near future."

"That's not good. I'll let her know, and hopefully she'll be able to stay out of trouble until this all blows over."

"While you're doing that, I'm going to see if I can get a better vantage point to watch the Incubator in action. I've got a few ideas as to who it'll likely be after."

"Right. You do that, and report back to me if it looks like the Incubator is going to make a move."



"... That's the situation, according to Archer's report. I don't know who among the many you're responsible for might have had someone in a position to take revenge on you, but I'd advise you to lay low for awhile until we know more."

The hallway, in the few minutes before the start of the next period, is buzzing with activity; teachers rushing to and from their offices and their next class, students trying to make a run for the bathroom or the water fountain before class, and even the occasional couple taking a few minutes to spend time with a significant other from another classroom. "I see. I appreciate you keeping me informed, Akemi-san; thank you."

"Homura-chan?" As it often does, Madoka's voice brings you back to reality. The two of you have stopped just in front of the classroom, and as is often the case when you hear that tone in her voice, you can see concern in Madoka's eyes. "Is everything alright? You were staring off into space again; does it have something to do with what you and Nurse Ortensia were discussing earlier?"

You give Madoka's hand a squeeze, smiling as you say to her "That foreigner I told you about, the one who's been investigating my allies and I? It turns out that she's an old acquaintance of Nurse Ortensia. We were just talking about her, that's all." Madoka returns your smile. "No, what has me concerned is the news that one of my allies might have gotten the wrong person mad at her."

"Which one?"

"Mikuni Oriko."

"Oh." Madoka looks in through the smart glass walls of the classroom, eyes fixed on Sayaka. She's talking with Hitomi at the moment, but from her body language it's easy enough to see that she's still upset over your words this morning. "I hope everything works out for her, then. It would be a shame for something to happen to her when she's trying to turn her life around."

"Yeah." The sound of footsteps draws your eyes to the right; it's the teacher. "Come on, let's take our seats and get ready for class."

"Right." Madoka gives you one final, warm hug, and the two of you go to take your seats before the teacher arrives.

"Okay master, here's the deal. I've been watching the Incubator through the window for awhile now, and I think it's trying to contract with two girls. One's a patient, and judging from her condition I'm pretty sure she's going to say yes. The other one... Well, unfortunately that one I can't say. I lost sight of the Incubator and I didn't get to see who its second target was; but whoever they are, they weren't in the children's ward so I'm confident they aren't a patient. What do you want me to do?"

"What do you mean, 'what do I want you to do?'"

"I mean, do you want me to introduce myself and try to talk them out of taking the deal?"


Do you
[ ] Tell Archer to intervene; that's one fewer girl the Incubator has access to
[ ] Tell Archer not to intervene
-[ ] Another puella magi means another potential master and ally in the fight against Walpurgisnacht
-[ ] Mikuni Oriko's actions mean fewer puella magi; means fewer witches; means fewer Grief Seeds
[ ] Is there anything else you tell Archer to do? (write-in)

Regardless of your answer, do you
[ ] Try to pay attention in class
-[ ] but fail, and ping
--[ ] Tomoe-san
--[ ] Kyouko
--[ ] Mikuni Oriko
---[ ] And talk about what? (write-in)
[ ] Skip to lunch
-[ ] and talk to
--[ ] Madoka
--[ ] Sayaka
--[ ] Hitomi
--[ ] Tomoe-san
--[ ] Kure Kirika
---[ ] About what? (write-in)
[ ] Skip to the end of the day
-[ ] and do what? (write-in)
[ ] Other (write-in)​
 
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[X] Tell Archer to intervene
-[X] If Kyubey isn't going after a child, he might be going after a young adult in the faculty, like an 18-year-old intern nurse or something
-[X] Make sure that they have the full story rather than the Incubator's half truths so that they can make an informed decision, but nothing more than that.
[X] Try to pay attention in class
-[X] But fail, and instead practice non-visible uses of the Isa rune

Homura's already learned all of this course content anyway because of the time loops, and this way she's doing something useful without distracting the other Puella Magi.
 
-[X] But fail, and instead practice non-visible uses of the Isa rune

Homura's already learned all of this course content anyway because of the time loops, and this way she's doing something useful without distracting the other Puella Magi.

The only problem with this is that, even if Stasis or Drain aren't visible, their effects would still be felt, and on top of which we've already been chewed out by Archer once before for doing magecraft in public.
 
The only problem with this is that, even if Stasis or Drain aren't visible, their effects would still be felt, and on top of which we've already been chewed out by Archer once before for doing magecraft in public.
It'd probably take a pretty sharp eye to realise that the notebook that she's scribbling in had been frozen in time or gotten stuck to the table as long as she doesn't do anything too obvious with it. ;)
 
[X] Tell Archer to intervene; that's one fewer girl the Incubator has access to
[X] Skip to lunch
-[X] and talk to
--[X] Kure Kirika
---[X] About using some of her and Oriko's many Command Seals to lower Berserker's rank in Mad Enhancement. It wouldn't do to have an asset like Lancelot to be mostly unusable while maiming his Master in exchange for a simple boost in statistics.
-[X] and rejoin the others for lunch after you finish talking with Kirika

@CMAzrael it's far more likely that Kyuubey is looking to contract with the daughter, younger sister, or friend of a patient rather than a nurse who's far above the age in which a good amount of potential can be harvested by Kyuubey. Writing down Isa in her notebook is actually a really good idea, considering she'd probably be using Stasis and her initial uses will only be very temporary each time. I just used the baseline 'tell Archer to intervene' line SVS gave us since it's heavily implied that Archer's going to either tell her the whole story anyways, or we'll be choosing in his POV while more knowledgeable about the circumstances.

As for the whole 'reveal Magecraft' bit, it depends on whether or not Isa (Stasis) will be magically lighting up when used. Care to enlighten us, @SVS? Got no idea if CMAzrael's idea is incognito or not when practicing Isa (Stasis) specifically.

EDIT: WoG that Isa'll light up when used. Good to know. Changed vote.

Command Seals are supposed to be able to grant the ability to enact magics close to True Magic, such as teleportation, and are supposed to be pretty powerful in general. We also know that they can be used to unlock suppressed Servant skills. Why not use them to suppress them? Suppressing Servant skills shouldn't be that difficult when you consider a Master is only supposed to have three of them.

It's been shown by Heracles in the Heaven's Feel route that Mad Enhancement is a lot more artificial than most Servant abilities, and can apparently be overridden or resisted for a time, such as when Heracles regained his faculties as he was dying. Using a Command Seal, however, should allow a Master to forcefully suppress it, or at least lower it's rank/influence over the Servant.

It will lower Lancelot's physical statistics, but I'd say it'd be worth it to have someone like a sane Lancelot, who's a Knight who follows chivalry, to reign Kirika in in the future, while also getting the team a more reliable and incredibly skilled asset without the time limit Berserker currently has due to maiming his Master while under the effects of Mad Enhancement.
 
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As for the whole 'reveal Magecraft' bit, it depends on whether or not Isa (Stasis) will be magically lighting up when used. Care to enlighten us, @SVS? Got no idea if CMAzrael's idea is incognito or not when practicing Isa (Stasis) specifically.

If our practice is actually going to be invoking Stasis, then whatever we're doing with Isa will be visible. However, if we're only practicing whatever the proper conjugation for invoking Stasis would be, then we're in the clear; but the downside is that we won't have any way of knowing if what we're doing is correct or not until we actually test it out, and then it'll be visible.
 
---[X] About using some of her and Oriko's many Command Seals to lower Berserker's rank in Mad Enhancement. It wouldn't do to have an asset like Lancelot to be mostly unusable while maiming his Master in exchange for a simple boost in statistics.
As you know, I have like no knowledge of Fate. However, I do remember this...
"Wait," you say, in light of your "employer"'s most recent message. "Before you go making any rash decisions, there's some more information you should know about the Command Seals." She gives you a look, as if to say 'Why didn't you say so before?' but says nothing. "Compelling a servant to act isn't the limit of what they can do. You can also use them to call your servant to your side over long distances, or use them to temporarily power up your servant."
Would it permanently lower the rank, or would oriko have to constantly feed them command seals in?
 
As you know, I have like no knowledge of Fate. However, I do remember this...

Would it permanently lower the rank, or would oriko have to constantly feed them command seals in?
"The Command Seals are three claims of absolute obedience, the crystallization of a great magic, that a Master has over a Servant in the Holy Grail War system. Unable to normally be controlled by humans, they are burdened by the "absolute condition for materialization", the authority of the Command Seal carved into them at the moment of summoning. They are holy marks signifying a magi's status as a Master, a system that was created by Zouken Makiri after the failure of the First Holy Grail War. Only known to the Three Founding Families and Supervisor, their truest purpose is to allow the winner of the Grail to force the Servant to kill themselves so that the ritual to reach the Root with all seven Heroic Spirits can be completed."

Straight from the wiki. Reading through the rest of the wikia page, it's likely that using a single Command Seal to specifically lower the rank of Mad Enhancement will permanently lower it by a rank or two, and may decrease even more per Seal as the Servant regains his mind and actually wants the effect of Mad Enhancement to be removed.

"... but a powerful enough Master can change the effect from "well, I'll respect Master's opinions slightly" to dropping them a rank if they disagree with the Master." This snippet implies that Command Seals can in fact affect Servants in the way of permanently restraining their skills/N.P.s/etc. It's much like what Rin does to Archer when she summoned him, in that Archer's statistics would lower by 1 rank as long as he is disobeying his Master.

I'm not sure if it can only be lowered to E- or if it can be completely suppressed as it's a core Servant skill of the Berserker class, but E- is still great.

"The user does not receive the benefits of Mad Enhancement nor do they lose any of their reasoning abilities, and overall they just become a little rougher."

Here's a before and after picture of Lancelot before Mad Enhancement and after it was applied to him, just cause:
 
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[X] Tell Archer to intervene; that's one fewer girl the Incubator has access to
[X] Skip to lunch
-[X] and talk to
--[X] Kure Kirika
---[X] About using some of her and Oriko's many Command Seals to lower Berserker's rank in Mad Enhancement. It wouldn't do to have an asset like Lancelot to be mostly unusable while maiming his Master in exchange for a simple boost in statistics.
-[X] and rejoin the others for lunch after you finish talking with Kirika
 
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