@SVS considering the odd features Oriko has even for a Madoka Magica character (outside the anime Japan norm) it's entirely possible that Oriko's mother was descended from some foreigner of some kind, thus allowing the greater chance of growing taller than usual, which is only around 5'11"-ish if 180 cm is true, which is technically possible naturally for a 15 year old girl, just really rare (heck I've seen 15 year old girls taller than that when I was in High School, though that's only applicable if the foreigner DNA turns out to be true). Either that, or she's a Code Geass character. Either or.
 
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Seems reasonable.
 
@SVS considering the odd features Oriko has even for a Madoka Magica character (outside the anime Japan norm) it's entirely possible that Oriko's mother was descended from some foreigner of some kind, thus allowing the greater chance of growing taller than usual, which is only around 5'11"-ish if 180 cm is true, which is technically possible naturally for a 15 year old girl, just really rare (heck I've seen 15 year old girls taller than that when I was in High School, though that's only applicable if the foreigner DNA turns out to be true). Either that, or she's a Code Geass character. Either or.

I'm not sure exactly how odd Oriko's features are that can't just be chalked up to Kuroe's art style not having been all that refined during Oriko Magica. Come Sadness Prayer and she looks relatively normal and not nearly as lanky. I'm well willing to accept that she's got some foreign blood in her (Italian by her maternal great-grandmother, for the purposes of this quest) and while that definitely accounts for her being taller and bustier than the other girls, and could also excuse the differing shape of her face and eyes if you don't already discount that as just being a quirk of Kuroe's artstyle, I'm still left wondering whether that would really make her a CLAMP-tier lankmonster, or if it's just Kuroe not having settled in to proper proportioning yet.

Since I'm using Italy as Oriko's place of foreign blood, the average height for women in Italy ranges from 160cm-163cm, depending on which part of Italy you're in- I'm going to say middle Italian, so that's 163cm. Italy's average height is only about 5cm taller than Japan's, so I'm not sure how much taller Italian blood would push Oriko above her peers. If we assume that she's hit her peak and doesn't have much growing left to do, that probably only puts her as tall as Hitomi, which would make Kirika only barely taller than Madoka at her tallest. That's hardly tall enough to be threatening, and unless she's standing on something that doesn't make her anywhere near tall enough to threaten Mami.

This would all be so much easier on my part if we just had official heights for the spinoff girls, but no...
 
[X] Telepathically communicate with Kirika and state that your otherwise inconveniently predisposed at this very moment, and ask her if she can meet right after school in a location of her choosing. Metaphorically hang up and give the 'doka a telepathic call stating that you'll probably be predisposed during the lunch period due to being called to a meeting with Sayaka for unknown reasons, apologizing for needing to leave abruptly. Meet with Sayaka and see what she wants to talk about.
 
Hm, actually, from this page Kirika is obviously much shorter than Mami, and the page you supplied for assuming Kirika was taller was really sketchy in the first place as it looks upon them from an awkward angle and it's possible Kirika was on her toes to get up to Mami's face. Extrapolating the difference in height by the distance between their waists and referencing where it comes up to Mami in relation and referencing the official height chart you used, it's fair to say Kirika is somewhere around Madoka's height, or around 150 cm tall. In many other panels that I could find, despite some rough angles, it appears that Kirika comes up to roughly Oriko's nose, which would put Oriko around Hitomi and the 'doka's Mom's height, which would be ~165 cm, though maybe a little taller by 1-3 cm. Despite the rough angles in those panels though, I can safely say that Oriko is at least half a head taller than Kirika.
 
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Day 20 Chapter 7
[X] Telepathically communicate with Kirika and state that you're otherwise inconveniently predisposed at this very moment, and ask her if she can meet right after school in a location of her choosing. Metaphorically hang up and give the 'doka a telepathic call stating that you'll probably be predisposed during the lunch period due to being called to a meeting with Sayaka for unknown reasons, apologizing for needing to leave abruptly. Meet with Sayaka and see what she wants to talk about.


"I see. Thank you, Tomoe-san."

"You are most welcome, Akemi-san."


You cannot help but let a third sigh escape your mouth. It really must be too much for you to ask of Fate, to just be able to spend time with Madoka as girlfriends. Between everything that happened yesterday, and having to deal with this "Church", and now this... Which past life's misdeeds am I paying for this time around?

Well, this time around you aren't going to make the same mistakes as you have before. While in previous timelines you might have allowed this level of impending miscommunication to occur, that is no longer the case. You'll cut it off at the source and make sure that everyone who wants you to hear them will have their chance.

"Kure Kirika, I have been informed that you wish to speak with me; is that correct?"


"̷̡̧̞͙̮͉̘͕̖̘̻̞̐̍̽̏͗͘W̵̧̖̤͖̮̄̀̒͒͌̅̊̾͑̚h̶̨̠͍͚͚͕͙͍̯͎̺͗̉͒̎͂͋͒̆͑̇̑̓̀͑̍̋̓a̴̛̦̱͍̐̂̍͑́́̕̚͘t̶̢̡̢͚̳̻͈̟͎̘̟͎͙̦͒͋̄̚͝?̴̗̜̮̣̈́̌̌͋͆̑͘ ̵̢͉̩̤̜̜̻̰͑̔̏̾̊͐͑͆̀̈́̀̃͐̉̚͝W̵̧̖̪͕̫͉̱̺̼̫̫͕̙͇̎͐͑̂̑̽͛͒͂̕h̴͈̱̪̜̼͎̦͍̭̹͍̲̯̿̍͛̑̈͛̀̈́̽̉͋͗́͜͝͠ͅo̷͙̙͐̀̊̏͆͂͌̾̋́̐̑͘̕͝͝͠͝ ̶̡̢̹͇̞̟̩̺̲̻̥̺͚͍̺͂̇̈́͒̌̾́̇̍̈́̑̎͂́͘͠͠͝s̷̢̢̛͔͍̤̝̜̼͈̟̫̰̯͕͆͋͝ͅą̷͎̜͈͑͗́͌̏́́̀͌̒͆͝į̸̻͖̻͎̣̪͒̈́̂̓͂̆͊͆̃̈́́̂̈͊ͅͅd̵̢̟̼̤͈̗̺̽͒͒̋̕ ̸̡̩̖̩͓͍̑̎͛̋͠ẗ̸͚̯͍̰͔h̵̛̛̪̄̎̒͗̃͒͐̓̏̿̆͋a̶̢̨͙͍̼̗͕̹͈̳̙̜͎̳̻͖̻̲̅͠t̵̢̛̯͉̞̬̹͉̻̯̹̗͉͙̳͕̏̀̋̑̅͆͛̚ͅͅ?̶̧̬̤͔̤͇̼̜̱̲͈͇̘̜̭͔̐̅̌̌̓̾̀́͐͗̉̍͂̿͗̚͝ ̶̡̡͉͕̯̱͓̫͙͉̝̤̠̬̘̤͉͈̋͋̾͗͗̂͊͂̏͗͗̏̕̚͘B̸̢̧̨̰̻̳̎͐̂͌͒̇̾͑̌̓͌̓͘̕͠e̷̮͍̪͎̤̤͎̹̰͕͛̅̋͜r̷̬̤̯̩̖̈̋͑̑̽̔͆̓̀̓́͂͘͠͝ş̷̧̱͚̠̮̣̤̮͎̔͑̆̆̋̄́̎̅̎̋͆̒̉͜͠͠ẽ̷̛̙͈͉̿͆̑̍͗͝ŕ̴̨̢̛͍̻̟̥̯̲̻̫͈̮̪̰̤̮͔̌̃͊͐͂̇̈́̓̕͘͘͝͠͝ͅk̵̨̪͈̖̹̣̬̟͓̺̠̥̝̭̱͈̠̐̍̎ͅe̶͉͙̘̪͓̿̍͜r̶͚̟͖̠̻̗͉͍̱͌͊̓̐̏͒̄͌͘̚͘̚͝,̶̡̘̰̤̺̱͓̠͈͚͉͇̍̐͆̿͆͋̀̉̿̉ ̷̧͖̟̭̝̲̜͚̤͈́̌̅͜í̵̺̬̱̫̿̇̏̒͋͊̎́͝s̶̫͍̩͕̲͕̄̆̏̉͆̓̅͑͘͝ ̷̧̻͔̙̘̰͎̮͋͂̽̓̒̋̚͘ţ̵̪̪̫͚͇̲̪̮̞̪̖̋͊̓̒́̇̑̀͌́͘͜ḥ̵̛̀̋͐͆͊͑̊̔͠ä̸̡̧͍͖̣̬̮͈͍̗̠͉̰͍̬͙́̆̎̑̚͘͜t̶͚̱̽͗̑̒̀̑̀ ̴̢͓͓̟͎̮̹̺̞̹͇̤͍̤̳̰̻́̃̂̔̓̚͜͝ý̷̡̛̮̙̮͍̖̝͚̘̀̀̏̈́̿̊̒͋̏̑̈́̾̚͜͜͠ͅͅͅö̴̘͇̬͔̙͓̮́̀̆̽͐͗̀̐́͝ȕ̵̬͈̯̺̼͖̺̮̳̯̺̪̔̈́̔̓͛͐̈́͜͝͝ͅ?̸̡̯̪͚͈͔̙̺͇̘̲̼̳̩̮͓͍͊̀̀̏ͅ"̶̭͇̫͉̳̥̯̯͇̮͖͖͛̃̓


Mikuni Oriko had mentioned that because she and Kure Kirika were used to using their phones to communicate, they had never taken the opportunity to learn how to use their telepathic communication. However, once you showed her how to do it, she quickly took to it as naturally as any other puella magi would have. You had assumed the same would be true for Kure Kirika, and had never considered that there might be another reason why she was incapable of doing so.

Archer told you once the identity of Berserker, the night before that battle- Lancelot, one of the knights of the Round Table. But no matter how chivalrous and noble a knight he might have been in life, as a servant he is little more than a raving beast in the shape of a man. You can't imagine how sharing a telepathic link to a thing like Berserker could affect someone, and you do not envy Kure Kirika for having to support her chosen servant.

"No, this is Akemi Homura. Tomoe-san told me that you wished to speak with me, yes?"


"̶̘̠̠̹̮̺̬̺͙̪͋́̀̾̍̆̇̿̑̔̅̽͐̎̕̚̚͝ͅͅͅAk̵̨̪͈̖̹̣̬̟͓̺̠̥̝̭̱͈̠̐̍̎ͅe̷̮͍̪͎̤̤͎̹̰͕͛̅̋͜m̶̝͎͓̙͓̱̦̞̅̄̀̃͌̉̂̀͆̔̈̕͘͝ì̸̧̨̮̭̮̗̥̣̭͓͈͚̟̩̺͈̍́̇͂͊̄͑͋̕͠͝͝͠͝?̸̡̖̝̦̳̥̜̦̰̥̮̗̬̣̺̠̎̿̄̃̑̏͆ ̸̢̝̲̰̬̤̭̾̉̍̑̇̄̄͒ͅW̷̡̛̗̳̺̲̪͉̎̑̏̽̽͊̍̃̐͗̈̉̃͠͠͝h̴̲͖̲̺̜͒̄̉̓͂̐̓̓̏ă̵̱͓̙͕̳ţ̷̢̧̟̬̖̟̊͜ͅ ̴̺̜̞͌͛̇â̷̙͙͑́̋͐͝ŕ̵̫̪͚̩̪͈̗̾̈ẹ̶̮̟͇̮͍̠̅̑̐̍͊͒͊̂̑̒̿͒̕̕͝ ̸̢̛͖͎̲͇̻̠̼͓̫͔͌̈̎̃̔̒̈́̑̊͠͠͠y̶̡͚̫̳̤̳̯̟͔͕̩̪̗̙͎̩̟͚̆̓̈̊̊͂̉͌͆̒̍̊̈̔̊o̴̖̥̹͓̹͒́̽̈́̏͗̒̇͐̿͊͘̕͝͠u̶̡̲̩͈͍̙͗̎́̑̅̑͂̉̐̓̊̂͊͌͜͝͝ ̸̡̭͚̺̖̲̘̀͑̆̀̈́̀̓͘͝͝͝͝d̶̬͖̝̲͙̺͎͊͌̄͐͋̈́̅͌́́̔̕͘̕̚͜͝ǫ̸͙̪̠̪̱͎̹̥͙̽ì̸̧̨̮̭̮̗̥̣̭͓͈͚̟̩̺͈̍́̇͂͊̄͑͋̕͠͝͝͠͝n̵̡̨̢̛̰̝͍̥͕̣̖̦̖̯̞͓͆̉̍̈̏͐̊͂̐͊̿ģ̴̰̯͍̲̞̝͖̱̥̩̫̰̭͇̤̈́̄̈́̎͆̆͜ͅ ̴̧̨̼̬̪͔͈̼̭̣͈̰͔̮̫̝͕͂̒̄̊̂̈́̅͜͝͝͠i̵̼̲̝̜͗͊̑̇̍́̒̄̐̃́̈͗͠n̵̩̰̯̳̩̎͛̅̑̈̾̈͘͝ ̶̢̺͙̞̥̘̫̮̼̦͚̺͕̩͒̀͆̒̚͝ͅm̸̗̥̞̲͓̦̲͔̬̘͈͈̺̫̱͚̆͋̑̇͑̄̑̚̕y̴͚̥̩̮̩̙̻̖̺͂̋̈́̇̚ ̵̝̩͓͇̫̼̘̱̎̌̈́̌̽͒͝h̸̯̠͖̦̭̦̪͙̹͓̥͉͖̤̠̉̈͋̆̍̓͌̀͆͋̈̿̈́̀͘ͅȩ̶̧̤̻͔̙̫̙͙̞̦͉͖̟̪̯̈͌̍͘a̴̡͕͇̤̖̯̗̤͉̟͐̃̑̍̊̕̚̕͜ḍ̸̛̛͖̙̇̓̀͛͐̑̋͛̏̊̆̈́͒͠͠?̴̹͓̩͇̝̤͇͔̝͓̺̖͎̥̩͙̻͆̈́̉͌͒̈̿̏̑͆̎̓ ̶͎͔̦̠͔̺͉̺͕̝̯̱͙̇̾͊̃̈́̀́̒̑̊͊̄͜͜͝G̴͈͓̞͐̈̈͗͐͘̚ͅe̴̠̺̯̖͉̜̱͍̽t̶̨̘͂͛͊͛̐̽̾͆͆͌̀̒̚͝͝͝ ̸̧̨͕̬̫͇͚̘̜͍͇̳̦̱̟̽̐̀̓͆̅̚ͅo̸̢̺̓̈́̒ư̸̧̘̘̯͖̖͇̥̘͇̝̺̩͉̲̔̉̀̈͂̃͋̐͌͂̀̈́͘t̴̛̬̭͚̄̍͊̈́ ̴̢̠͕̻̝̪̯̯͙̃́̄͋͛ở̸̟̙͍̗̣̱̩͓͚̖̲͓͍̄͛̔̃͑͐͗̀̀͜͠f̶͎͔̮̤͙̟̪̩̣̩͙̺͇̟̤̉̏͋̅̌̏͒̕͝͝͝ ̸̡͚̖̼̱̗̼̦̙͈̖̩͕͋̅͝m̸̢͖̲̼͔̥̞̖̖̞̗̩̝̖̫̝͚̐̄̔͐̊̎̃̕ÿ̵̛̪̟̱͙̈̌̋̀̉̂̓̿͌͋̋̔̕͝ ̸̭̮̩̮̭͍̖̠̲̰̑̉́͆͜͜h̸̥̯͖̦̺̤̠̦̳̙̟͇̹̟̺̰͆̕͝e̸͔̠̪͈̍̓̈́͘̚ą̶̱̜̖̲͖̠͆̈́̅̏͠ḑ̶̛̟͍͗̆́́̈́͛̍͊͊̔͑̔͌̿͝!̸̗̞͖̄̎̽͒͛̿͜͝"̴̛͚̠͖͕̼̗̩͕̰̫̞̹̮͙̖͐̒̄̄̌͐̐̋̎̀̀̋̔͘̚͜͠͝ͅ


"I am, rather inconveniently, going to be indisposed for the immediate future. If you are willing to wait, I can meet you after school at a place of your choosing, and we can talk then."
You terminate your connection to Kure Kirika; there doesn't seem to be much point in waiting to hear if she can formulate a response amidst the madness.

But the next person on your "to call" list most certainly can. "Madoka, I apologize, but I don't think I'll be able to make it to lunch."

"You too, Homura-chan? Sayaka-chan said that she wouldn't be able to make it, either... She was really upset this morning, I hope she's okay."

"Actually, Sayaka left me a note before she left, asking me to speak with her."

"Ah! That's great! Maybe you can help her feel better!"


You aren't sure how easily Sayaka will let herself be made to feel better, in light of everything that's happened so far. "Right. I'll see you later, Madoka."


*Smack*

You had been expecting many reactions from Miki Sayaka upon meeting her atop the roof, but an open-palm slap across the face was certainly not among them. You stare at her, rubbing your cheek as you say "That was uncalled for, Miki Sayaka."

"You're right, I..." Sayaka's hands are trembling, and her breathing is irregular. "I'm sorry, okay? I just... I can't believe you! You and Mami-san, I- When I saw you two, being friendly with that psycho, I just... I couldn't stand it!"

Sayaka turns her back on you, reaching a hand out to grasp at the elegant fence that rings the roof. "That girl... I saw her there, on that day... She was the one that lost her legs... They wanted to kill Madoka; they tried to kill me, and... You and Mami-san are like, the coolest people I know, so what am I supposed to think when I see the two of you being friends with a girl who wanted me and my best friend - your girlfriend, I should mention - dead? Huh? Did you ever think about how that might make me feel; what kind of message you're sending to me?"

"Mami-san I guess I could understand; she doesn't really seem like the type who could hate anybody, no matter what they did; but you?" Sayaka's hand clenches down against the fence, tight enough to draw blood. "I thought that you, of all people you, might have felt the way I did about her, but... Was I wrong, Homura? Do you really care that little about how your friends feel, that you'd try and make friends with one of the people who wanted us dead not even a week ago?"

"I guess I... I just don't know what to think about you anymore, Homura. Is being a, you know, really that different from being a normal person that this kind of thing isn't even an issue to you? Can we..." You hear a pained whimper escape Sayaka's mouth, and the way her shoulders are shuddering tells you that she's desperately trying - and failing - to stifle her oncoming tears. "Can we even be friends anymore? Should we even be friends anymore?"
[ ] What do you say to Sayaka?
 
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We could probably mention that we only spared them because of a greater threat, and that our relationship could be better described as 'mutual dislike only a few steps down from outright hatred and a little bit of grudging respect' rather than 'friends'. I'm not one to write dialogue well, though, especially at 4 am, so I'll leave creating the vote to someone better suited.
 
[] Resend your message to Kirika to Mami and make sure Mami tells her what she communicated to Kirika just in case. Also have Mami apologize on her behalf for telepathically communicating with Kirika, as it didn't seem as if she appreciated it at all.
[] Tentatively hug Sayaka comfortingly and state that you want to remain friends with her if at all possible, and tell her to at least let her explain her reasoning for working with those two. After a few moments tell Sayaka that you hate Oriko and Kirika for what they've done and were trying to do. Also tell her that it's possible that without their aid, all of Mitakihara and everyone they love will die. Explain the level of destruction Walpurgis brings to cities it visits, and inform her of the level of durability and attack potency it fields, and state that with the level of power they have with this city's Puella Magi, without Oriko and Kirika's support, it's entirely possible that they'll fail. Tell her that to be a Puella Magi, one must make personal sacrifices in order to protect the one's they love, from as little as missing some school to having to work with horrible people to ensure that everything turns out alright, and that it's unlikely that a Puella Magi, within their life, would ever avoid such compromises, be it from disputes over hunting grounds to city busting threats like Walpurgis. Reassure Sayaka that if they ever decide to hurt any of her friends or loved ones again, that she'd kill them herself if she had to, just make sure that she knows that you don't like having to cooperate with them, but you will if it means protecting her friends and Madoka. Tell Sayaka that if she ever needs to ask you about something like this future that she should be upfront with it to you, and you'd be happy to explain your thoughts and reasoning to her, as she's your friend and you'll listen to her concerns and try and compromise, and ask her what she thinks they should do with Oriko and Kirika if not to put them to use to save countless more lives including the one's they love.

Here's hoping our protagonist, with her -2 CHA, will roll good on the metaphysical d20!

EDIT: Also [jk] Force Homura to call her friends by their given names, instead of calling them their family and whole names.
EDIT2: New vote based off Nachtigall's

[X] Telepathically contact Mami and tell her that Berserker's mental link seems to make telepathy problematic for Kirika. Could she apologize to Kirika for you, both for your attempt to contact her that way and that you unfortunately already need to meet someone else over lunch? If Mami agrees, thank her. Also have Mami relay her previous message to Kirika again just in case.

[X] Tentatively hug Sayaka comfortingly and state that you want to remain friends with her if at all possible, and tell her to at least let her explain her reasoning for working with those two.
-[X] After a few moments, tell Sayaka that you hate Oriko and Kirika for what they've done and were trying to do. As she knows, since she was there, you were fully ready to kill them and the only reason you refrained were their magically binding oaths never to harm one of your friends again. Even then, you aren't friends, merely allies trying to stay cordial.
-[X] Explain that the main reason for keeping them around, as much as you don't like them, is to safeguard the city and their loved ones from a new threat brought to their attention by Hitomi the other day. Inform Sayaka of the Church and what they've found out about it so far, and press that Oriko's ability, her precognition, is and has been vital in combating this coming threat. Also tell Sayaka of Oriko's general usefulness against Assassin as well.
-[X] As a Puella Magi, one must make personal sacrifices in order to protect the ones they love, from as little as missing some school to having to work with horrible people to ensure that everything turns out alright. It's an unfortunate fact that Puella Magi can't avoid such compromises forever and survive - be it from disputes over hunting grounds to city-wide threats like the Church or Assassin.
-[X] Tell Sayaka that if she ever needs to ask you about something like this in the future that she should be upfront with it to you, and you'd be happy to explain your thoughts and reasoning to her, as she's your friend and you'll listen to her concerns and try and compromise.

EDIT3: Changed the explanation to keep Oriko's bloc around from Walpurgis to the Church thanks to Nawaf. Also no harm in informing her of Walpurgis as just an entity that attacks cities to explain why some Puella Magi team up, while not referencing it in regards to Mitakihara.
EDIT4001: Changed Walpurgis mention to the Church and Asssassin.
 
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[X] Telepathically contact Mami and tell her that Berserker's mental link seems to make telepathy problematic for Kirika. Could she apologize to Kirika for you, both for your attempt to contact her that way and that you unfortunately already need to meet someone else over lunch? If Mami agrees, thank her. Also have Mami relay her previous message to Kirika again just in case.

[X] Tentatively hug Sayaka comfortingly and state that you want to remain friends with her if at all possible, and tell her to at least let her explain her reasoning for working with those two.
-[X] After a few moments, tell Sayaka that you hate Oriko and Kirika for what they've done and were trying to do. As she knows, since she was there, you were fully ready to kill them and the only reason you refrained were their magically binding oaths never to harm one of your friends again. Even then, you aren't friends, merely allies trying to stay cordial.
-[X] Explain that the main reason for keeping them around, as much as you don't like them, is to safeguard the city and their loved ones from a new threat brought to their attention by Hitomi the other day. Inform Sayaka of the Church and what they've found out about it so far, and press that Oriko's ability, her precognition, is and has been vital in combating this coming threat. Also tell Sayaka of Oriko's general usefulness against Assassin as well.
-[X] As a Puella Magi, one must make personal sacrifices in order to protect the ones they love, from as little as missing some school to having to work with horrible people to ensure that everything turns out alright. It's an unfortunate fact that Puella Magi can't avoid such compromises forever and survive - be it from disputes over hunting grounds to city-wide threats like Walpurgisnacht.
-[X] Tell Sayaka that if she ever needs to ask you about something like this in the future that she should be upfront with it to you, and you'd be happy to explain your thoughts and reasoning to her, as she's your friend and you'll listen to her concerns and try and compromise.

I wonder if an admittance to being socially stunted should be added
 
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EDIT: Also [jk] Force Homura to call her friends by their given names, instead of calling them their family and whole names.

I know this is just a [jk], but Homura is by and large calling her friends by their given names. Madoka, Sayaka, Hitomi, and Kyouko are all called as such, with the only exception being if they're doing something to tick Homura off. Tomoe-san is Tomoe-san because she's still Homura's senior, and that's not something Homura can change no matter what happens or how close they get. And Oriko and Kirika aren't Homura's friends, so they don't deserve to be called by anything but their whole name.
 
all of Mitakihara and everyone they love will die. Explain the level of destruction Walpurgis brings to cities it visits, and inform her of the level of durability and attack potency it fields, and state that with the level of power they have with this city's Puella Magi, without Oriko and Kirika's support, it's entirely possible that they'll fail.
Can we not mention "Walpurgisnacht might kill everyone, we need all the puella magic we can get" if front of Sayaka? That's pretty much the fastest way to get her to contract. Yes, it's partially defused, but we shouldn't risk this.

Also, Japanese culture values personal space, so outright hugging is a bit much I think.

And mixing first and third person perspective is suboptimal when every tenth word ends up being 'her'.

if they ever decide to hurt any of her friends or loved ones again, that she'd kill them herself if she had to
Sayaka was there when we forced the geas on those two, so that part is invalid.


[X] Telepathically contact Mami and tell her that Berserker's mental link seems to make telepathy problematic for Kirika. Could she apologize to Kirika for you, both for your attempt to contact her that way and that you unfortunately already need to meet someone else over lunch? If Mami agrees, thank her. Also have Mami relay your previous message to Kirika again just in case.

[X] Squeeze Sayaka's shoulder comfortingly and state that you want to remain friends with her. Ask her to at least let you explain your reasoning for working with those two.
-[X] After a few moments, tell Sayaka that you hate Oriko and Kirika for what they've done and were trying to do. As she knows, since she was there, you were fully ready to kill them and the only reason you refrained were their magically binding oaths never to harm one of your friends again. Even then, you aren't friends, merely allies trying to stay cordial.
-[X] As a Puella Magi, one must make personal sacrifices in order to protect the ones they love, from as little as missing some school to having to work with horrible people to ensure that everything turns out alright. It's an unfortunate fact that Puella Magi can't avoid such compromises forever and survive - be it due to disputes over hunting grounds or witches that one can't take on alone.
-[X] There's three threats you'll need Oriko and Kirika's assistance against so that they're dealt with quickly before they kill more innocents. Even with their help, we tried and failed to pin down the first witch yesterday and will have to hunt it again tonight. It's rather frustrating to fight something that gets automatic killing blows against females while in its labyrinth.
-[X] Tell Sayaka that if she ever needs to ask you about something like this in the future that she should be upfront with it to you, and you'd be happy to explain your thoughts and reasoning to her, as she's your friend and you'll listen to her concerns and try and compromise.
 
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Also, Japanese culture values personal space, so outright hugging is a bit much I think.

This is actually something that's given me a few headaches when trying to write Japanese characters from a western perspective. We've had our fair share of Madohugs, and Sayaka, Hitomi, and Tomoe-san have each either given or received from us a hug at one point or another, albeit with much more reluctance than if they were Madoka.

Realistically, by Japanese standards only Homura/Madoka and Oriko/Kirika have any business hugging one another, and certainly not nearly as often in public as either of them do; but as the precedent is already in place, this is one of the few things I'm willing to compromise on with regards to how much I'll let my writing deviate from reality.

be it from disputes over hunting grounds to city-wide threats like Walpurgisnacht.

We've never once mentioned Walpurgisnacht to Sayaka.* If you're worried about the consequences of us mentioning that she might kill us all and that we need all hands on deck to fight her, then I don't think mentioning her in this context is a good idea either.

*This, after review, is not accurate. Sayaka must have heard us mention Walpurgisnacht when we were laying the geis on Oriko and Kirika. As she hasn't brought it up again since, assume that she was too dazed to be able to catch everything that we said.
 
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Also, Japanese culture values personal space, so outright hugging is a bit much I think.
*looks at Madoka Magica Episode 1 8:30-9:00* You forget, this is not just Japan, but Anime Japan! ;)

Anyways, I'm sure it would be more accepted for a friend to hug a friend when they're crying, especially since they're still 14-15.
And mixing first and third person perspective is suboptimal when every tenth word ends up being 'her'.
Yeah, that's my bad.
Sayaka was there when we forced the geas on those two, so that part is invalid.
This is more reinforcement than anything else as Sayaka is quite an emotional person, and I felt that it needed to be reiterated to quell Sayaka's worries over Homura getting all "buddy-buddy" with Oriko's bloc.

Can we not mention "Walpurgisnacht might kill everyone, we need all the puella magic we can get" if front of Sayaka? That's pretty much the fastest way to get her to contract. Yes, it's partially defused, but we shouldn't risk this.
It's necessary is some capacity to emphasize the actual need to keep Oriko's bloc around. I changed it around in the newest iteration of my vote to specifically note that they need experienced Puella Magi with Servants, as to further distance Sayaka away from attempting to contract while also giving her a reason for Oriko and Kirika's continued presence.

Also, changed my vote.

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We've never once mentioned Walpurgisnacht to Sayaka. If you're worried about the consequences of us mentioning that she might kill us all and that we need all hands on deck to fight her, then I don't think mentioning her in this context is a good idea either.
O.O Uh-oh. I now see why Sayaka would be really upset. The only way I see of getting Sayaka to accept the presence of Oriko's bloc is to give her a reason for them to be around, so I have no clue on how to do that without mentioning something like Walpurgis. Anyone any ideas on that? I emphasized that they need all experienced Puella Magi with Servants, everyone think that's enough to ward her off of contracting?
 
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O.O Uh-oh. I now see why Sayaka would be really upset. The only way I see of getting Sayaka to accept the presence of Oriko's bloc is to give her a reason for them to be around, so I have no clue on how to do that without mentioning something like Walpurgis. Anyone any ideas on that? I emphasized that they need all experienced Puella Magi with Servants, everyone think that's enough to ward her off of contracting?
We could tell her about the future church disaster. That's simillar in scope but not a situation we can't handle the way Walpurgisnacht is. As we need Oriko specifically due to her abilities, she wouldn't feel the need to contract to help us. And Oriko and Kirika are a package deal.
 
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We've never once mentioned Walpurgisnacht to Sayaka.
I have no clue on how to do that without mentioning something like Walpurgis. Anyone any ideas on that?
Oh. I had assumed that Sayaka heard the wording of the geas, which included fighting Walpurgisnacht.
I changed that part to "witches that one can't take on alone" and added a paragraph why we need them specifically:
-[X] There's three threats you'll need Oriko and Kirika's assistance against so that they're dealt with quickly before they kill more innocents. Even with their help, we tried and failed to pin down the first witch yesterday and will have to hunt it again tonight. It's rather frustrating to fight something that gets automatic killing blows against females while in its labyrinth.
Assassin is something Sayaka can't help with, but where Berserker (and thus Kirika) is invaluable. The church is something we might want to avoid mentioning since it's another city-wide threat that Sayaka could help with if she contracted.
 
Oh. I had assumed that Sayaka heard the wording of the geas, which included fighting Walpurgisnacht.

Ah, crud, you know what? You'd be right on that one. She did hear us, at least well enough to comment on what would happen to them if they broke the geis. Since she never brought up Walpurgisnacht afterwards, I'd say to chalk it up as her still being in a state of shock and not really processing everything that's going on around her.



Also, between you, Twix, and Enetious, we've got three kind-of similar votes that are all varying degrees of really long. Maybe you guys want to come to an agreement on the wording?
 
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@WanderingTwix, @Enetious, @Nawaf, it seems we need to consolidate our votes.

Both Enetious and I revised ours, the difference now mostly boils down to which threats we mention.

no harm in informing her of Walpurgis as just an entity that attacks cities to explain why some Puella Magi team up, while not referencing it in regards to Mitakihara.
SVS warned against bringing up Walpurgisnacht and we already referred to fighting it in the geas. Therefore, we unfortunately can't really bring it up as a general example since she'd remember that we enlisted Oriko and Kirika against it and deduce that it will come here.
 
[X] Telepathically contact Mami and tell her that Berserker's mental link seems to make telepathy problematic for Kirika. Could she apologize to Kirika for you, both for your attempt to contact her that way and that you unfortunately already need to meet someone else over lunch? If Mami agrees, thank her. Also have Mami relay her previous message to Kirika again just in case.

[X] Tentatively hug Sayaka comfortingly and state that you want to remain friends with her if at all possible, and tell her to at least let her explain her reasoning for working with those two.
-[X] After a few moments, tell Sayaka that you hate Oriko and Kirika for what they've done and were trying to do. As she knows, since she was there, you were fully ready to kill them and the only reason you refrained were their magically binding oaths never to harm one of your friends again. Even then, you aren't friends, merely allies trying to stay cordial.
-[X] Explain that the main reason for keeping them around, as much as you don't like them, is to safeguard the city and their loved ones from a new threat brought to their attention by Hitomi the other day. Inform Sayaka of the Church and what they've found out about it so far, and press that Oriko's ability, her precognition, is and has been vital in combating this coming threat. Also tell Sayaka of Oriko's general usefulness against Assassin as well.
-[X] As a Puella Magi, one must make personal sacrifices in order to protect the ones they love, from as little as missing some school to having to work with horrible people to ensure that everything turns out alright. It's an unfortunate fact that Puella Magi can't avoid such compromises forever and survive - be it from disputes over hunting grounds to city-wide threats like Walpurgisnacht.
-[X] Tell Sayaka that if she ever needs to ask you about something like this in the future that she should be upfront with it to you, and you'd be happy to explain your thoughts and reasoning to her, as she's your friend and you'll listen to her concerns and try and compromise

I'll be using Enetious' vote. Sorry, Nacht, but your vote doesn't explain that we need Oriko and Kirika for their abilities and instead implies that we need more manpower. This has the chance, however slim, of her contracting to 'help us out'. But explaining that we need them specifically for their abilities would prevent that. Our main problem isn't power, since we have Gilgamesh, Berserkalot, Brynhildr, Emiya and Achilles on our side. It's more the lack of knowledge and Assassin's PM instagib that hinders us. The first of which is why we need Oriko and Kirika helps with the second by using Berserker.
 
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Well, this is one mess of a voting session isn't it, with a whole bunch of really long yet really similar votes? Anyways, altered the vote again (I'm sorry!) to change the Walpurgis mention to the Church and Assassin. Pinging @Nawaf and @WanderingTwix just in case you want to change that tibit.
 
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Alright, we're now on a 2-2, between Enetious and Nachtigall, or Nawaf and Twix; with the only difference being whether we mention Walpurgisnacht or the Church.

EDIT: Okay, so it looks like Enetious keeping the entirety of the old vote, even inside a spoiler, was throwing the vote tally way off. We shouldn't have a stalemate any longer.

EDIT again: Looks like I was wrong about the above. There's still a discrepancy over whether Walpurgisnacht or the Church gets mentioned. We're still at a 2-2 split.
 
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Too tieed and sleepy right now to really make a good, calculated decision, but i'll vote for [X] Mention Church over Wally for now, whichever side that is
 
Day 20 Chapter 8
[X] The vote​



"Can we even be friends anymore?" Sayaka shudders one final time, and you hear the dam break as she loses the ability to hold back her tears. "Should we even be friends anymore?"

You aren't sure how to approach this situation, aren't sure what words you can say to calm Sayaka's rampaging emotions. Your hand waits, just barely outstretched, for what feels like an eternity as you try to find the right words. You feel Sayaka's hands against your back, only realizing after the fact that you had initiated the hug.

"I would very much like for us to remain friends, if that's okay with you" you say, saying no more until Sayaka can bring herself to stop crying. "All I ask is that you let me explain myself before you make your decision." The shoulder of your uniform is damp with Sayaka's tears, but as they stop and she finds the strength to nod her head you know that they'll dry up soon enough.

Sayaka's eyes are red, and her voice is hoarse when she manages to say to you "Okay." You lead her over to a nearby bench, and the two of you sit down side-by-side.

"I... I hate those two," you say, only to shake your head, correcting yourself. "No, hate doesn't even begin to describe my feelings towards them. The things they have done... The things they would have continued to do if they hadn't been stopped... You were there; you know how close I was to killing them on that day, and if I thought for a second there was any chance of them ever again trying to harm you, or Madoka, or anyone else that I care about..."

"Despite my personal feelings, I've been trying to keep a cordial relationship with them. But they and I are not friends, Sayaka; I cannot stress that enough. At best, I tolerate their continued existence, for as long as they remain useful to me as allies." At this, Sayaka nods her head along to your words, stopping only when a question strikes her.

"What do you mean by that, saying that they're 'useful' to you?" she asks "You're still doing, you know, magical girl things with them, right? Even though you don't like them?"

"That is correct. Mikuni Oriko - the white one - has the ability to see into the future. Even if I hate her, an ability like that is one that I'd prefer to have on my side, rather than used against me. In addition-" You stop, realizing that in order to explain your next point, you have to go back a few steps. "It's not a phenomenon I've ever encountered before, but for whatever reason each of the five puella magi operating in Mitakihara have their own servant. I've told you about them before, right?"

"Yeah, that's what you said Mister Archer was, right? Some kinda magic ghost thing who's supposed to help you out, right?"

"That's the basic gist of it, yes. Archer told me that there are seven different classes of servant, and each of the five of us has a different one."

Sayaka counts off five on her right hand, saying "So, if you've got Archer, Mami-san has..." Sayaka wracks her brain, trying to think back to that day. "Caster, right? And Oriko has Lancer? Am I remembering that right?" You nod. "Then, who do Kyouko and Kirika have?"

"Kyouko has Rider, and Kure Kirika has Berserker; you've met Rider once before, if you remember the man with spiky green hair who would have let you in at the church when you went to pick Kyouko up the other day. He seems easygoing enough, and you'd probably like him if you had the chance to talk to him for a bit."

"But I'm guessing you're only saying that because you know I wouldn't like the last one; Berserker, was it? What're they like?"

"You've met Berserker once before, as well. He was the tall figure shrouded in shadows standing beside Mikuni Oriko and Kure Kirika when they surrendered. The best way I can describe him to you, would be by calling him a typhoon of violence in the shape of a person. He is one of the last things that I would want to have to fight as an enemy, and keeping him on my side is one of my reasons for allowing Kure Kirika to be my ally."

"Even if I don't like having to work alongside them, they each have in their possession useful tools, without which I would be at a severe disadvantage in safeguarding not only this city, but the people that I care about."

So far, Sayaka seems to be with you in regards to your explanation, until that moment when her mind hits a snag. "Wait, you said that there are seven servants, right? I only counted five. Who has the other two?"

"The sixth servant is Assassin, while the seventh is Saber." You hesitate as you speak to Sayaka the name of the servant that awaits her call should she fail to heed your advice and contract. "Saber, as far as I can tell, is not with us; but Assassin..."

You spend the next several minutes trying as best as you can to give Sayaka the clearest and most unambiguous explanation of Assassin that you can. Not only that, but when the opportunity presents itself, you also inform Sayaka of the impeding threat posed by the "Church of the Righteous Sister", courtesy of Hitomi's investigative research and Mikuni Oriko's precognition. "I know it must be hard to accept now that you've had to stare death in the face, but these threats are much greater than the threat posed by Mikuni Oriko and Kure Kirika. If I'm going to be forced to choose between working alongside them, or not, I know that I'm in no position to refuse the tools at their disposal, not if I can use them to save as many lives as possible."

Sayaka's hands are clenched into tight fists by the time you are finished speaking your piece. "Why..." you can hear the anger in her heart bubbling up to the surface. "Why do things like this keep happening? Why do so many people have to keep dying?"

You reach an arm around to Sayaka's shoulder, pulling her in close. "I wish I knew, Sayaka. I wish I could tell you why so many people have to die, but I can't. But I promise you, I'll do everything in my power to keep the people I care about safe. You, Hitomi, Tomoe-san, Kyouko, Madoka... I'll protect you all; even if I have to work with people like Mikuni Oriko and Kure Kirika in order to do it, I won't let anything stop me from keeping you all safe. That's what it means to be a puella magi; we have to make sacrifices in order to protect the ones we love. Skipping a day of school, missing out on time spent with the person that you love, working alongside horrible people, making sacrifices becomes unavoidable to our survival once someone has been in for as long as I have; and as long as there are threats that we have to overcome, there will always be sacrifices that we have to make."

It looks like Sayaka is going to remain in silent contemplation of your words, until a faint "... I'm sorry" finds its way past her lips.

Sayaka's response catches you by surprise, forcing you to ask "What do you have to apologize for?"

"Because, I... When I was little, I always used to watch reruns of Sailor Moon with my mom. I thought being a magical girl - fighting evil in the name of truth, justice, and love - was, like, the coolest thing ever. That night, when you were trying so hard to explain how dangerous being a magical girl is, I just kept brushing you off and joking around like an idiot, because I didn't understand. I didn't realize how dangerous it was for you, or Mami-san, or Kyouko, until it was staring me right in the face." Now, it is Sayaka's turn to comfort you, as she brings her own arm around your shoulder in a mirror of your own gesture. "I'm sorry for brushing you off so carelessly, and I'm sorry that you all have to go through the hell that you do."

Even though you have long since forced yourself to become accustomed to the life you are forced to live, it's always nice to know that you still have people who care for you. That's not something that you've had in a very long time. "Thank you, Sayaka, for being there for me, and for giving me the opportunity to explain myself."

"No problem, Homura," Sayaka says, as a smile finally breaks through. "That's what friends are for, right?"

"Right. But in the future, if something like this is bothering you, I want you to know that you can be upfront with me about it. You are my friend, and if something has you feeling concerned then I'd be more than happy to listen to you and try to work with you to find a solution."

Sayaka smiles, and in silence the two of you are content to sit here atop the roof, watching the city beneath you as it goes about its day.

They're all so blissfully unaware of the horrors that lurk just beneath the surface.

How many more will have to die before the end?

You can't save them all.


Do you
[ ] Sit here with Sayaka until the bell rings
-[ ] Talk to Sayaka (write-in)
[ ] Try to head to lunch, if there's enough time
[ ] Skip to the end of the day
[ ] Other (write-in)
?​
 
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