Confringentur 2; a Madoka Magica / Fate/Stay Night sequel

Sorry, sorry, was spending time with family. Btw SVS, you forgot to note the somewhat important trait that Puella Magi could just manually heal any piercings they don't want anymore, so any worry of Minako's that Kirika would be stuck with something she'd regret is moot.
I didn't forget it, actually. I just couldn't find a place to work it into the conversation where it would feel natural. Part of that is just that Minako's argument against it was never founded in "What if Kirika regrets it" so it was harder to find a place where it could fit.
 
Day 5 Chapter 3
[X] Plan Responsible Parent+



"It's not that I'm against you getting your ears pierced," Minako says. "Or even that I'm against you learning to spend your own money like a responsible adult. I'm against it because the only reason you want to get your ears pierced is because Oriko put that idea in your head, and you went along with it. I know you love her, pumpkin, but I don't want you making your decisions just because Oriko said something. You shouldn't be doing that. You're seventeen now; you should know how to make your own decisions without Oriko telling you what to do or how to think."

Minako looks to Archer hoping he would back her up; and to Kirika's evident disappointment, he does. "I'm going to agree with your mom," Archer says. "You're seventeen now, Kirika. You'll be an adult in just three years, and it's time you started learning how to make your own decisions without Oriko." You should have expected Archer to side with Minako, having seen in the past the kind of trouble Kirika can get into when she blindly follows Oriko's direction.

Kirika pouts; to be expected when her desire to modify herself for Oriko's sake is struck down. "I know you're upset now, pumpkin," Minako says, reaching a hand across the table to ruffle Kirika's hair. "But it's for your own good. You've got to start learning to think for yourself."

Archer nods, adding "On top of that, it would also be a good idea for you to stop taking everything Oriko says so literally, and to learn the difference between when she's actually telling you something versus when she's just thinking out loud. Just because she said you might look cute with your ears pierced, that doesn't have to mean it's something she actually wants you to do. I'm sure she'll continue to love you and find you cute just the way you are."

Unfortunately, it looks like Kirika might end up sulking for the rest of breakfast. You hope that at some point she takes to heart what your parents' suggestions, and that she doesn't go off and get her ears pierced on her own. Sort of like how she decided to get a tattoo under your parents' noses. You still can't believe it was Oriko who wanted to get a tattoo first; and yet, when you think about it, isn't Oriko getting a tattoo the only reason you can think of that Kirika would get one?

"I was thinking," you say as breakfast nears to wrapping up. "It might be difficult to find the time for us all to do something as a family in the near future, especially with those girls still at large. So maybe today, we could do something a little on the special side, and try to have that tide us over for the next couple of weeks while everything is being sorted out with those girls."

"What did you have in mind?" Minako asks.

"Well, if all of you were interested, maybe we could go to either the zoo or the aquarium? I've been feeling like seeing the birds at the zoo lately, but I'd be fine with going back to the aquarium. Or maybe there's something else one of you would like to suggest?"

"Well, I would have suggested a movie, maybe," Minako says. "But there's really nothing good that's playing, and I don't want our family time to be spent in a dark room not talking to one another, either."

Archer nods, adding "I don't really have any strong opinions either way. Rin's not going to be waking up for awhile, so we've got some time to kill. If we got to the zoo at, say, nine then we'd have about three hours, at minimum, before Rin woke up. That would give us plenty of time to see the birds and anything else we wanted to, and maybe even get lunch on the way home if we felt like it, since there's no guarantee she'll be waking up at noon on the dot."

Kirika offers no comment; apparently she's still sore over not being allowed to get her ears pierced. You're sure she'll get over it as soon as Oriko tells her that she doesn't need them to be cute; but that still leaves you with a sulking Big Sis for most of today. Oh boy. Fun.

You make for the shower after breakfast is over, and change into something presentable once you've dried off. Kirika, true to her word, doesn't bother putting on a bra, instead throwing a black button-up on over her band tee. "Are you going to sulk all day?" you ask her. You're sitting on your bed, and she's sitting in the chair by your desk.

"Maybe."

"Well, don't do that. I know you're upset now, but I'm sure Oriko will still find you attractive even without getting your ears pierced. You've been with her for over two years, haven't you? You must have been doing something right, and I'm sure a lack of earrings on your part isn't going to change that." When your words elicit no change in Kirika's demeanour, you decide to go for the nuclear option, and ask her "Would it make you feel better if I got Oriko to say that to you?" That does it. Upon hearing her lover's name, Kirika's eyes immediately light up. This is exactly what Archer wanted to see change for her, but you'll do what you have to. "I'll let her know you want to speak in just a moment. First, I need to check something with her and Tomoe-san."

You take out your phone, and type a quick message to your teammates.
<Homura: Tomoe-san, Oriko, I need to know if Caster or Lancer have reported back to you about their progress on the base.>
<Homura: Also, I'd like us to meet up later today to discuss a possible incursion into Asunaro. We've gained a bit of momentum taking their Archer out, and I'd like to assess our options to capitalise on that.>


You don't need to wait long before you receive your replies.
<Tomoe-san: Caster has nothing to report. Work on the foundation is going smoothly with no incidents. We're estimated to have the entire base completed in four days.>
<Oriko: Lancer had much the same to report. Foundation is comign along nicely, and we should have the entire mansion ready in four days. I can try asking Caren'-san if she's head anything from Assassin, but I imagine she wouldn't have anything substantially different to report.>

<Homura: Has Assassin been any trouble so far, or is she behaving?>

<Tomoe-san: Caster says she's been behaving. I suppose the thought of losing her new toy was enough to keep her in line.>

<Homura: That's good to hear. Oriko, if you could call me when we're done here, that would be great. There's something I need to talk to you about in private.>


You set your phone down, and give it a minute for Oriko to call back. "Hello? Akemi-san? You needed to speak with me about something?"

"Yes, I did," you say, setting your phone in speaker so Kirika can hear her lover's voice. "So, Kirika has been... A bit pouty, this morning, because Minako and Archer won't let her get her ears pierced. I told her that you would still find her attractive even if she didn't, but I figured she needed to hear it from you for it to really stick. Am I right to believe that, or were you being serious when you suggested she get her ears pierced?"

"Oh, I really didn't think she'd take me seriously," Oriko says. "Dearest, you don't have to worry about getting your ears pierced. You're already beautiful, and you don't need to change yourself at all in order to make me happy. If you wanted to get your ears pierced, then I'd support your decision, but you shouldn't feel like you need to do it on my account. I'll still love you no matter what." By the look in her eyes, that's enough to get Kirika to put the idea to rest. "Akemi-san, could you turn off speaker and hand the phone over to Kirika? I'd like to say something to her in private, if you wouldn't mind."

You do as Oriko asks, turning off the speaker and handing your phone over to Kirika. "Hey, Ori~ko, how's it going?" ... "Uh-huh, I'm not upset anymore, 'cause I got to hear from you." ... "Oh? A surprise for me?" ... "Mhm, I'll be looking forward to it, then. I know I'll see you later tonight, but I can't wait to see you Monday." ... "Uh-huh, love you too. Bye!"

Kirika hands your phone back to you, and you feel as though you've just been party to something you would rather not have been party to. Against your better judgement, you ask "So, what was that about?"

"I'll tell you when you're older." Something tells you that you're better off not knowing.

[ ] Wat do?
 
... I feel like we're missing expectations for the vote. Just talking?
Whatever you feel like. Talking, talking about talking, talking about what we're doing, doing what we're doing, whatever. I really didn't know what the best options were to give you guys going forward from the most recent updates. So, feel free to go wild. We can spend a couple updates looking at the birds in the zoo and laughing at how the peacocks look like Assassin, we can timeskip over the zoo trip and come back to Rin waking up with Shirou in her cup, we can go to the zoo later in the day after we've talked to Rin, and go meet with the girls for a raid on Asunaro now; like I said, whatever.
 
Well, aside from wondering what Servants can understand animal speak, but that's only tangentially related to this quest.
Atalanta can sing the Meow Mix jingle, but you have to give her catnip first. Cu can speak a mean Irish Setter, or so I've heard. Edison probably knows a thing or two about the wildlife around Pride Rock. But other than that? Who knows.

EDIT: Apparently, some people took offense that I didn't include Enkidu in my ribalding. Well, screw you. I'd like to see you come up with an adequate joke that about wolves. I've got nothing.
 
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Atalanta can sing the Meow Mix jungle, but you have to give her catnip first. Cu can speak a mean Irish Setter, or so I've heard. Edison probably knows a thing or two about the wildlife around Pride Rock. But other than that? Who knows.

Don't forget Gil's bets bro, Enkidu. They had an actual wolf as a Master at one point, didn't they?
 
Don't forget Gil's bets bro, Enkidu. They had an actual wolf as a Master at one point, didn't they?
Forgetting about Enkidu... That is truly a sin.

But yeah, while it wasn't technically 'talking' because it was more of communicating his intentions and emotions.
 
[X] Ask Kirika where she'd like to go for our family outing.

Since she was sulking earlier at breakfast and didn't recommend anything.

Uhh....I don't know what else to put other than that.
 
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EDIT: Apparently, some people took offense that I didn't include Enkidu in my ribalding. Well, screw you. I'd like to see you come up with an adequate joke that about wolves. I've got nothing.
Dammit @SVS, you can't even make a decent joke on wolves! I'm howling in rage like I never before!

EDIT: Oh yeah.
[X] Ask Kirika where she'd like to go for our family outing.

This, you made a mistake in asking SV on being able to properly socialize.
 
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Dammit @SVS, you can't even make a decent joke on wolves! I'm howling in rage like I never before!
I'm neither a furry nor a wolfaboo. My capacity to care about wolves approaches zero, and thus I don't care enough about them to know how to make a good wolf joke.
This, you made a mistake in asking SV on being able to properly socialize.
And yet, somehow, Enetious managed to get us through a year and a half of largely social votes, including guiding us through the arduous task of reforming and socialising with Oriko and Kirika; and I, who barely leave the house and can often go weeks without ever seeing or speaking to another person I'm not related to, was able to write for those social votes. If he and I can do it, the rest of you scrubs have no excuse.
 
I'm neither a furry nor a wolfaboo. My capacity to care about wolves approaches zero, and thus I don't care enough about them to know how to make a good wolf joke.
Wolves are cool tho... and I also look at videos about wolves and they can be really cute, besides, I'm an animal's person, so I guess I like most of the animals I see I guess?
And yet, somehow, Enetious managed to get us through a year and a half of largely social votes, including guiding us through the arduous task of reforming and socialising with Oriko and Kirika; and I, who barely leave the house and can often go weeks without ever seeing or speaking to another person I'm not related to, was able to write for those social votes. If he and I can do it, the rest of you scrubs have no excuse.
Enetious has an EX in Plan Creation, it's not fair to compare us mongrels to his greatness.

And you also seem to assume that I'm also capable of actually socializing with my family without akwardness.

...And now I depressed myself again, good job, me.
 
Well, if you look at the other side, it means that you are an actual faker, after all, a copy can never surpass the original.
Factually incorrect when you have Chinese counterfeiters producing fake Magic: the Gathering cards that are of better quality than the official product. Factually incorrect when you have legions of fans who can create more balanced, complex, and history/mythology-accurate servants than TM proper can. Factually incorrect when a man with a shovel and some welding tools can make an AK47 that functions no worse than one from a factory. Factually incorrect when a decently-talented art student can paint a Mona Lisa that's damn near indistinguishable from the genuine article.

I don't like Shirou as a character; in fact, every single time he opened his mouth during UBW I wanted to smack him upside the head. But he was correct when he said that there's no reason a fake can't surpass the original.
 
Factually incorrect when you have legions of fans who can create more balanced, complex, and history/mythology-accurate servants than TM proper can.
hehe ye :V

I don't like Shirou as a character; in fact, every single time he opened his mouth during UBW I wanted to smack him upside the head. But he was correct when he said that there's no reason a fake can't surpass the original.
As far as I was told, he was a bit less of a whiny b**** in the VN, but I haven't gone through the VN yet, so...
 
As far as I was told, he was a bit less of a whiny b**** in the VN, but I haven't gone through the VN yet, so...
Me: *Sees someone who hasn't read the VN* *Puts elitist hat* *Clears throat*
"Mongrel"
*Takes off elitist hat*


Now more seriously, I honestly recommend the VN, it explores the characters in ways that the anime, which was made by an studio who seemingly has a phobia towards internal monologues, which thank god they have gotten better with the HF movies, and is actually capable of making you get a basic grasp of Shirou's personality in the very first scenes with him.

Personally, I understand the dislike towards Anime!Shirou, after watching the anime I can say that without the monologues that he has his actions actually seem far more stupid.

Honestly, I enjoyed Anime!Shirou as much as I enjoyed Zero!Artoria... Which I see as a piece of **** not only as a supposedly prequel self for SN!Artoria, but as a character in general, which only objective in life is being everyone's punching bag.

I honestly enjoyed Zero, I would say 7/10, I like many characters (Kariya's motivation's, while indeed impulsed by his own grudge against Tokiomi, at his core was to save Sakura, that duality made me love his character), while I didn't reached to care about others (Tokiomi was boring, plain and simple, and the few moments that he shined were brutally outshined by almost everyone else).

Kiritsugu was ok, I didn't rooted for him but I neither hated him, his association with Zero!Saber made me dislike him more than it should be, but in general he was a solid character.
 
[X] Plan Urban Safari
-[X] Go to the zoo with your family
--[X] Take plenty of pictures with your cellphone to share with Madoka at a later date
--[X] Maybe get some souvenirs while you're here, like those coin press things, or a plushie for Madoka
--[X] Talk to
---[X] Dad
----[X] about if he's ever gone to the zoo before
----[X] about if he's seen any of these animals in their natural habitats in his travels
---[X] Mom
----[X] about her favorite animal, if she's got one; you haven't really been to the zoo at all from what you can recall - you might've gone when you were little, you're not sure - so you're not sure what your favorite would be just yet
----[X] about trips she's gone to when she was a kid
-----[X] You don't know much from when Mom was a kid, what was she like back then?
---[X] Big Sis
----[X] pointing out the peacocks in relation to Assassin's attire
----[X] about the adult stuff she's keeping from you; you'll have her know that you've come a long way from thinking that babies came from storks thank you very much
-----[X] Immediately regret your decision
----[X] about the fact that, no, you haven't immediately gone the next step with your girlfriend in the small amount of time you've had since getting her advice; not everyone can work as fast as Big Sis after all
-[X] After visiting the zoo, go out to Lunch on the way back
--[X] Maybe they could go to an Izakaya (Japanese pub) or a Yakiniku restaurant for Lunch, or maybe a noodle restaurant (a Ramen or Udon place) if everyone just wants something fast

Used this for inspiration for possible Lunch places.

Sorry, was unavailable for a while again due to rushing to finish the event going on in F/GO. Fun times. Anyways, here are some talking points for when they visit the zoo (the aquarium was already done last part), as well as some cheap and good quality lunch recommendations.
 
[X] Enetious

He's back!

...I wonder, if we Worship Enetious enough, would he become an Heroic Spirit? :V
 
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Honestly, I enjoyed Anime!Shirou as much as I enjoyed Zero!Artoria... Which I see as a piece of **** not only as a supposedly prequel self for SN!Artoria, but as a character in general, which only objective in life is being everyone's punching bag.
Oh yeah, Artoria's whole thing is one of the few chinks that stopped Zero from being one of my favorites. For real;

Rider criticizes her, saying that Saber's emotional distance from her subjects led to their dissatisfaction and proposes his own ideal, namely that people should serve the king, whose extravagant ambitions inspire them in turn.
OH REALLY? THAT'S WHAT ALEXANDER THE GREAT BELIEVES, HUH? So you're telling me that Alexander simply being an extravagant moron with loose and fickle ambitions who faffs about needlessly is what got him all the love and respect, huh? Not, you know, raising a massive empire efficiently, ruthlessly, cunningly, and with his pride being in his accomplishments rather than his wealth and power? Seriously, he lives up to his title of Broskandar, but the ideologies just don't line up at all. I hate Fate's tendencies to just go 'they have a high Charisma stat because they're just have this sort of aura that makes people horny' instead of 'they earned this rank in Charisma through blood, sweat, tears, and years upon years of building their image and through action cementing themselves in the eyes of the public'. Also;

[X] Enetious

And sorry for the huge ass rant.
 
Oh yeah, Artoria's whole thing is one of the few chinks that stopped Zero from being one of my favorites. For real;
I can accept a character being called out, hell,when a character fucks up really hard, I will demand that character being called-out, but Artoria's whole dammed deal is that. Being called out by everyone she knew because of bullshit;seriously, Kerry going full on "YOu DoN'T KNoW aboUT War" thing to the godamm king of a country during the godamed Saxon invasions! made me lose any single shred of respect I still had about Zero!Artoria.
OH REALLY? THAT'S WHAT ALEXANDER THE GREAT BELIEVES, HUH? So you're telling me that Alexander simply being an extravagant moron with loose and fickle ambitions who faffs about needlessly is what got him all the love and respect, huh? Not, you know, raising a massive empire efficiently, ruthlessly, cunningly, and with his pride being in his accomplishments rather than his wealth and power? Seriously, he lives up to his title of Broskandar, but the ideologies just don't line up at all. I hate Fate's tendencies to just go 'they have a high Charisma stat because they're just have this sort of aura that makes people horny' instead of 'they earned this rank in Charisma through blood, sweat, tears, and years upon years of building their image and through action cementing themselves in the eyes of the public'.
I will break a spear in Fate's favor and say that I'm pretty sure that it's something they obtained after becoming Heroic Spirits/Servants.

But yeah, while Rider was honestly good compared to the amount of edgyness that I saw through my monitor (which I think it almost cut one of my eyes because of sheer edge), Rider was enjoyable but I didn't see him as great as so many say he is.
And sorry for the huge ass rant.
"Weak," Sprouted UNKNOWN, who was quickly becoming the greatess maker of long rants in this whole Quest, by hiw own will, mind you.
 
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