Confringentur 2; a Madoka Magica / Fate/Stay Night sequel

Take a virtual hug, Plague.

[X] Rest & Research
-[X]Go home
--[X] Play with Amy
--[X] Try to forget that your parents' bedroom is right across the hall from yours
--[X] Hit Google on the enemy servants, especially their weaknesses (Teeth!)
--[X] Send a text to the 'doka
-[X] On Hitomi:
--[X] Her thoughts on Saber
--[X] Her thoughts on the rest of the team
--[X] Her thoughts on what she's gotten herself into
--[X] Her boyfriend
--[X] Her ethical limits; what's her best-case scenario, and what are the lines she isn't willing to cross?
 
"And I suppose it wouldn't be unreasonable to have Assassin assist you," Nurse Ortensia says to Kyouko. "She did manage to land a pretty good hit in him, and she has a class advantage over him as well. It's just too bad about her lack of physical bulk." Nurse Ortensia's comment earns her a deadly glare from her Assassin, which she ignores handily. "It would be quite beneficial if she had a big, strong man there to act as her meat-shield while she's stabbing Rider in the back."
[color=transparent[COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]]"You're lucky I don't stab you in the back, you treasonous whore."[/COLOR][/color]
This is just gonna be a thing, huh?
--[X] Hit Google on the enemy servants, especially their weaknesses (Teeth!)
While I'm sure this will tell us some details about them, I don't think it will reliably give us info on weaknesses and such. At worst, it could misinform us. I guess there isn't a lot of harm done, though.
IMO, talking about her boyfriend amongst all the other "heavy" options (especially the last one) seems out of place. You may see it as an attempt at levity, but I don't know if Hitomi will appreciate it or not. Maybe she'd like a topic to get her mind off.

[X] Swedish15
 
[X] Swedish15

Impressive, someone is actually taking the load out of PlaguePaladin!

He must be crying tears of joy!
 
--[X] Hit Google on the enemy servants, especially their weaknesses (Teeth!)
I don't understand what you mean by "Teeth!" in this context. Does someone have a weakness to being bitten I haven't heard about?
This is just gonna be a thing, huh?
It has been less than 4 hours since Aífe was shoved into a class vessel for which she is unsuited. Her kit as an Assassin is a jumbled, incoherent mess of her abilities as both a Rider and a Caster, but without the power and laser-focus of either. She's lost the beloved horse and chariot she would have had as a Rider, as well as all of her best spells and curses she would have had as a Caster. She's rightfully pissed off. Give her some time to cool down, because as I said, it's been less than 4 hours since she was summoned. Or she might not cool down, and then yes, this does become a thing.
 
I don't understand what you mean by "Teeth!" in this context. Does someone have a weakness to being bitten I haven't heard about?

Not quite. But according to Wikipedia, Rameses 2 died of old age - obviously not helpful - while suffering from arthritis and debilitating toothache. If we can trigger that, somehow, maybe it buys us some action.
 
Not quite. But according to Wikipedia, Rameses 2 died of old age - obviously not helpful - while suffering from arthritis and debilitating toothache. If we can trigger that, somehow, maybe it buys us some action.
Yes, I'm sure we can find a way to inflict upon an enemy servant, summoned in his prime, ailments which only plagued him at the end of his life. When he has boatloads of magic and access to an ally servant with medical knowledge whose master is adept at medical alchemy and human transmutation. Truly, an unbeatable strategy that will buy us the time we need to- Oh, and he's already cured. Welp, we're boned.
 
[X] Swedish15

The more you mention it, the more I think Assassin of Blue should be targeted first to prevent all that healing nonsense the Masters and Servants are getting. Though I doubt she's going to be anywhere close to a battle because of it.
 
The more you mention it, the more I think Assassin of Blue should be targeted first to prevent all that healing nonsense the Masters and Servants are getting. Though I doubt she's going to be anywhere close to a battle because of it.
While I wouldn't go so far as, say, first target, I wouldn't deny that taking Assassin early should be something to keep in mind.

I actually mentioned that in my last plan... Before I went back to usual and decided to vote for Plague's superior plan.
 
Yes, I'm sure we can find a way to inflict upon an enemy servant, summoned in his prime, ailments which only plagued him at the end of his life. When he has boatloads of magic and access to an ally servant with medical knowledge whose master is adept at medical alchemy and human transmutation. Truly, an unbeatable strategy that will buy us the time we need to- Oh, and he's already cured. Welp, we're boned.

Yes, enemy Assassin sucks. Also: Well, do you have any other weaknesses we can exploit? Rameses 2 seems pretty lacking in narrative tropes we can use :(

But yeah, he's not quite Gilgamesh bullshit, but he's close.
 
Yes, enemy Assassin sucks. Also: Well, do you have any other weaknesses we can exploit? Rameses 2 seems pretty lacking in narrative tropes we can use :(

But yeah, he's not quite Gilgamesh bullshit, but he's close.
Well... Even in Prototype, Ozyma-DIO! was considered someone that not even the three knight classes could defeat, even when fighting him together.

Proto-Saber needed to join with almost all of the Servants in Fragments to have a shot against him, and even then, he had Manaka's support. Manaka, AKA: that girl with the connection to the Root.

So I doubt that being balanced was in Nasu's mind the moment he decided to make Best Pharao a Servant.

TLDR: Ozymadas/Ramses II Is, and has always been from the begining, Bullshit Powerful.
 
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Yes, enemy Assassin sucks. Also: Well, do you have any other weaknesses we can exploit? Rameses 2 seems pretty lacking in narrative tropes we can use
Just force him to watch Prince of Egypt, dude, it's not that hard.
Well... Even in Prototype, Ozyma-DIO! was considered someone that not even the three knight classes could defeat, even when fighting him together.

Proto-Saber needed to join with almost all of the Servants in Fragments to have a shot against him, and even than, he had Manaka's support. Manaka, AKA: that girl with the connection to the Root.

So I doubt that being balanced was in Nasu's mind the moment he decided to make Best Pharao a Servant.
I'll give you guys this- He's been toned down from "Actually unbeatable except for the most contrived scenario possible" to "Just really fucking strong, but not unbeatably so". But still, like I'm actually going to tell you guys how to beat him.
 
Just force him to watch Prince of Egypt, dude, it's not that hard.
Now, SVS, tell us where the Pharaoh touched you.

Because that's just being evil.


EDIT: Wait no, I confused that movie with another one.
I'll give you guys this- He's been toned down from "Actually unbeatable except for the most contrived scenario possible" to "Just really fucking strong, but not unbeatably so". But still, like I'm actually going to tell you guys how to beat him.
Ozy has been nerfed.

0/10 worst Quest ever, we want our walking, breathing meme Pharaoh back. I'll go John Wick on you SVS.

...Now more serious, it was inevitable that Ozy would be nerfed. While the HGW In-Universe was never meant to be balanced (*Looking at the Saber-Class*), it is a necessity to make it somewhat balanced if you are going to make a Quest about it.

GG, SVS.
 
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Ozy has been nerfed.

0/10 worst Quest ever, we want our walking, breathing meme Pharaoh back. I'll go John Wick on you SVS.

...Now more serious, it was inevitable that Ozy would be nerfed. While the HGW In-Universe was never meant to be balanced (*Looking at the Saber-Class*), it is a necessity to make it somewhat balanced if you are going to make a Quest about it.
You want a walking meme for a pharaoh? Originally I was going to give him the power to stop time, and I would have gone all-in on him being voiced by Koyasu. You guys are lucky he got toned down. Instead, you'll still probably need multiple servants to beat him, you just won't need literally the Philosopher's Stone + a fortress-busting Noble Phantasm amped up on magical steroids + the strongest servants of your team all ganging up on him at once.
 
You want a walking meme for a pharaoh? Originally I was going to give him the power to stop time, and I would have gone all-in on him being voiced by Koyasu. You guys are lucky he got toned down. Instead, you'll still probably need multiple servants to beat him, you just won't need literally the Philosopher's Stone + a fortress-busting Noble Phantasm amped up on magical steroids + the strongest servants of your team all ganging up on him at once.
Well, I- Wait a fucking minute!
Originally I was going to give him the power to stop time
...Ozyma-DIO! almost became real.

Truly, this is the darkest of timelines.

Oi! Counter-Force Teme! Why can't you allow us to have nice things for once!?

...Alright I'll stop now.

As fun as it would have been to see Ozy going full Dio, it would have also made the Quest practically unbeatable and would have lost meaning knowing that Ozy has gone full Invincible Rival once more.

And that's without counting Sigurd and whatever other Servants that the Blue faction has.

It would have been horrible.

...As a sidenote, I will admit that I don't look into the seiyuu's too much, so I don't know who the hell Koyasu is.

I, once again, bow my head in shame.
 
...As a sidenote, I will admit that I don't look into the seiyuu's too much, so I don't know who the hell Koyasu is.
Oh, we've got a stellar voice cast lined up for the enemy servant roster. Ramesses II is voiced by Koyasu Takehito, better known as the voice of Dio Brando. Assassin of Blue is voiced by Sawashiro Miyuki, better known for... Well, just about every female voice of the 21st century. Seriously, she's like the new 10's equivalent to Hayashibara Megumi; and for one you may not have known, Sigurd is voiced by Tsuda Kenjiro, probably best known as the voice of a minor character from a pretty obscure show; you've probably never heard of him- Does the name Kaiba Seto ring any bells?
 
Oh, we've got a stellar voice cast lined up for the enemy servant roster. Ramesses II is voiced by Koyasu Takehito, better known as the voice of Dio Brando. Assassin of Blue is voiced by Sawashiro Miyuki, better known for... Well, just about every female voice of the 21st century. Seriously, she's like the new 10's equivalent to Hayashibara Megumi; and for one you may not have known, Sigurd is voiced by Tsuda Kenjiro, probably best known as the voice of a minor character from a pretty obscure show; you've probably never heard of him- Does the name Kaiba Seto ring any bells?
Huh, nice.

And yes, but sadly I hadn't seen Yu-Gi-Oh in the recent time. It was so long ago that I hardly remember... 10 years or so?

My speciality lies in the Fate Series, FMA (both 04 and Brotherhood), MHA, SnK and a little of DxD, much to my shame.

Been planning to finally finish Tsukihime VN and maybe wander until something touches my interest.
 
Oh, nice. I hope you appreciate when you spot the nods to FMA'03 that are scattered about, as it was one of my primary non-source-material sources of inspiration when developing the sequel.
Huh, now that's a surprise; but its one I will happily welcome.
 
Day 2 Chapter 15
[X] Rest & Research



"How do you feel about Saber?"

You've decided to walk home with Hitomi tonight; her house is on your way from the Tomoe apartment, and now that the enemy has seen her face it's better to keep watch on her. You can sense Saber's presence beside her, but like Archer her servant is invisible to prying eyes. "Well, it's too early to judge, isn't it?" Hitomi asks. "He seems like a respectable enough person, at the very least. I don't know enough to say if his, er, stats, are good enough to hold up to our competition, but I suppose I'm in no place to complain, since I was the one who summoned him."

"He's going to have to do until you're ready to defend yourself," you say. "What sort of Mystic Codes do you have that you can use right now?"

"Well, I've got my pair of hydrogen and oxygen density manipulating Mystic Codes, and not too long ago I made one that applies a mixture of nitrogen manipulation with Alteration; it lets me pull nitrogen out of the ground so I can shape it however I want. That one's not very precise, but the few times I've tested it it seems like it'll be useful enough in a pinch."

"Unfortunately, what we're going to find ourselves in is a bit more dangerous than 'a pinch'," you have to remind Hitomi. Hoping that Tohsaka-san can give Hitomi some tips on making good Mystic Codes for combat, you ask her "What are you going to start working on, now that you've seen what combat between puella magi is like?"

"Something with a bit more 'oomph' to it, I suppose would be the most logical choice," Hitomi replies. "I've been tossing around the idea of a sensor that uses vibrations in the air to detect where someone is, and I've also been working on a, well..." Hitomi looks both ways as her voice lowers, as though she's afraid of what an eavesdropper might think of what she was about to say. "Well, since I've been working with elemental gasses, I thought working with chlorine and fluorine would be the next logical steps. I'm not comfortable with making what would essentially be a form of chemical weapon, but if it'll help the rest of you, I guess I could expedite my work."

Hitomi's reluctance to employ chemical weapons on your enemies, as noble as they are, raise an interesting and important point to you. "Where do you draw the line?" you ask her. "If you're going to fight with us, I need to know what your ethical and moral limits will be." You know Oriko refuses to kill; it's detrimental to the team effort when the enemy is trying to kill you, but you understand her reason for refusing to kill and you know you can't force her to. You need to know if Hitomi is the same.

"Well, I guess I'm not really comfortable with the idea that I'll have to take a life," she replies. "I know I signed on to fight with you, and I do sincerely intend to do my part when it comes to keeping this city and the people I care about safe, but I don't believe I could live with myself if I ever had to kill someone."

"If it was your life or theirs, would your answer be the same?"

"I... I'm afraid I can't answer that, Akemi-san. I'm sorry."

Hitomi averts her eyes; you aren't sure if she's ashamed of herself for whatever response she might be considering, or if she's ashamed of you for the response she must think you are considering. "That's fine," you say, hoping to ease some of the tension between you. "Let's talk about something a bit easier, then. What do you think of the rest of the team?"

"The servants, or the other girls?" Hitomi asks. "Aside from Archer, I guess I don't really know too much about any of the other servants. I recognise, um, Lancer, was it? The one belonging to Mikuni-san?" You nod; Lancer it is. "She seems nice enough, at least outside of combat. I admit she was... Rather terrifying to see, when she actually started fighting the enemy Saber. I suppose that might colour my impression of her differently going forward. Assassin seems to be quite mean, actually. I don't know if she'll be easy to get along with, and I don't know how that's going to impact the team's overall cohesion. I hope she can calm down eventually."

You nod. "I'm unsure how to think of Assassin as well. On one hand, her anger at being forced into an unsuitable class is understandable, even if it's disruptive to the rest of the team. But on the other hand, if she weren't an Assassin we might not have as powerful a counter to the enemy's Rider servant as we do now. If she's able to calm down and get over her desire to harm Nurse Ortensia, she'll be an invaluable ally against the enemy Rider."

"Actually, I'm worried about Nurse Ortensia as well," Hitomi adds. "I hope she doesn't keep saying things to provoke Assassin like she did at the meeting tonight. She..." Hitomi breathes in deeply, before sighing, saying "I know she wasn't your first choice, Akemi-san, but she is important to Mikuni-san, right? I hope she's able to work together with the rest of the team."

"I hope so, too." You don't really want to think about the position your team might find themselves in if you have to fight the enemy Rider without a powerful Assassin at your side. Now, as you near Hitomi's house, you decide to bring the night to a close on a topic you're sure will lighten Hitomi's mental load. "So... I really thought after you and Kamijou Kyousuke broke up that you'd be done with dating for awhile, but here you are hiding a boyfriend from us for almost a year. Kind of hard to imagine Tomoe-san being the only single one of our friends now, actually."

"Again, I really am sorry for hiding Makoto-san from you all. I really was worried about how Sayaka-san would react if she found out I was seeing someone again so soon after dumping Kamijou-kun. I'm just glad I don't have to hide him from you all anymore."

"Do you have a picture of him you would be willing to show me?"

"Of course!" Hitomi fishes through her skirt's pocket for her phone, proudly showing you the home screen picture. She, and a boy you assume is her boyfriend, are wearing the blue-and-green uniform of the Chigasaki junior high; he's not much taller than her, with slightly messy black hair and calm, blue eyes. He has his arms around Hitomi, who has one arm around his waist and the other arm stretched out, holding her phone to take the shot. "We took this on my last day at Chigasaki," Hitomi says, returning her phone to her pocket with a wistful expression. "Does it... Does it make me a selfish person to wish I were still attending school there? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy being able to see you and Kaname-san each day, but there are times where I wish I could wake up, and it would just be Makoto-san and myself sitting in class together, sharing notes during lunch or sneaking kisses when we thought no one was looking. I wish we could see each other more than once every other week or so."

You shake your head. "I don't think so," you say. "I know I'd be upset if Madoka and I had to attend different schools; and look at Kirika- I've never seen her work as hard on anything as she did to pass her high school entrance exams, just so she could go to the same school as Oriko." Your words elicit a look of understanding from Hitomi, and you move on to asking her "Well, now that you're not trying to hide him, maybe you can see him more frequently?"

Hitomi shakes her head. "The course load at Chigasaki was the one thing I don't miss. He really doesn't have that much time to come and see me. I would go and see him more frequently, but my father isn't exactly as supportive of my relationship with Matoko-san as he was with Kamijou-kun, and he's just a bit too concerned about letting me go off to-" Hitomi feigns a shocked gasp as she says "-spend a whole day alone with a boy, unsupervised!" When you and Hitomi find your voices again after the giggle you shared at her mimicry of her father, she says "But in all seriousness, I really do wish my father would ease up on Makoto-san a little bit."

"He's probably just worried for you, that's all. You're a teenage girl, he's a teenage boy..." You'll let the implication stand on its own. "If it makes you feel better, sometimes Minako is that concerned about Kirika's relationship with Oriko. Not to the point of being unsupportive, but she's very concerned that Kirika spends more time thinking about Oriko and less time thinking about her schoolwork." You won't say that Minako has every reason to be concerned for how her daughter spends time with her lover.

"I see." Hitomi smiles, saying "Well, this is me," as the two of you come to a stop in front of her house. "Thank you so much for walking home with me, Akemi-san. I enjoyed our conversation."

"So did I," you reply. "Hopefully soon, Oriko or Lancer will have a, I guess you'd call it a lesson plan of runes for you. That should help get you up to speed with the rest of us."

Hitomi nods, disappearing into her house with a "Thank you, Akemi-san. I'll be looking forward to them." The door closes behind her, and it's home for you as well.

The lights are off when you and Archer return home, and Minako's laptop is sitting closed atop the living room table. You hope she was able to finish whatever she was working on. "I'm going to make sure Minako's not too freaked out about us coming home late," Archer says, leaving you to your own devices as he heads off to his bedroom to check on her. Your own bedroom is right across the hall, so you follow him until the two of you part ways into your respective bedrooms.

You pull your chair out, taking a seat at your desk as you open your laptop. Pale blue light floods your darkened bedroom, prompting a muffled "Mew" and the sensation of fur rubbing against your leg. "Did I wake you?" you ask Amy, reaching down to give her scratches behind the ears. "Sorry. I've got to look some things up, but I can play with you for a bit while I'm working, if you'd like." Your suggestion receives no complaints, and Amy climbs up, sitting down beside your laptop. But before you can get to work, your phone buzzes.

<Madoka: Srry if I woke U Homura-chan. I just wanted 2 kno if everything was alright.>

You smile, typing back a quick reply to Madoka to soother her worries.
<Homura: Everything's fine. We ran into some trouble earlier in the night, but everyone is okay. I'll tell you all about it tomorrow.>

Your phone vibrates once more after that; it's another message from Madoka.
<Madoka: Sounds good. See U tomorow Homura-chan.>

Setting your phone aside, you can finally get to work. With one hand you type the name "Sigurd" into the search engine, while with the other you stroke Amy's fur and give her scratches. Your hope is to find something in the enemy Saber's story; some weakness you can exploit to your advantage; but then... "Oh, dear," you say, as your results come back. That's a lot more than you were thinking you would have to read.

 
Alright, that's Day 2 taken care of. So far, so good. What are we thinking of for tomorrow? What's our rough plan for the day looking like? We planning on hanging back and hunkering down to wait for the Saints to come to us; are we going to gather information on them; or are we going to try taking the fight to them? What do we want out of our first post of the new morning?

Hopefully you guys can at least give me something for that last one. Mornings are the hardest for me to write blind.
 
Well, that's day 2 over.

We planning on hanging back and hunkering down to wait for the Saints to come to us;
Probably hunker down. One of the things that got us last time was the fact that we really weren't ready for a fight, so going on the defensive and seeing if we can set up some kind of perimeter of, if not actual barriers, then at least a warning system is a wise idea in my eyes. Not to say that we can't do both at the same time, though that would spread us thin. I believe we should also start up practice sessions again, because we need to get an edge over our enemy in Magical Girl fights.

What do we want out of our first post of the new morning?
Snuggle Amy, get breakfast, hug the larger Kure, hug the sword dad, go to school. I'm not good with that stuff either.
 
Oh, something important I want to point out while I wait for nobody else but Plague to comment on our plans for tomorrow.

Here's a map of Mitakihara. Unlike the clean, textless one I use at the start of the day, this one has locations marked on it.
You see those three brown buildings on the other side of the train tracks from Downtown that are by the arches? Hitomi's house is close to those three buildings. Caren's apartment, assuming we ever need to visit her, is right about where Homura's head is located. Not where it says "Akemi Residence" but literally around where Homura's head is located. Maybe a little bit to the right of Homura's head.
 
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