- Location
- Canada
Big Seven time!
Belated Battleships (KanColle) [REHOST]
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Old Iron
Admiral Unfun
- Location
- The Southwestern Deadlands of America
Yeah, that is pretty cool.
Oh my. Very nice pics.Big Seven time!
The Colorados though. Whoo... I will always love me a Standard.
I will now distract you while I write with the image of Admirals Richardson, Goto, and WIlliams transforming magical girl style into JoJo-esque Magical Admirals to fight off the Abyss.
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- Canada
BlackAeronaut
Scaring people witless since 1980
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- A state of mind where it is always ****ing Monday.
If we're bringing in Akula-class subs with Caterpillar drives, then whoever writes it absolutely MUST have this music playing in the background to aid the muse...
Unfortunately, I don't see it happening since all Akula-class subs are far too new. But it would still be cool as hell. Given how ridiculously HUGE Akulas are, those ship girls would dwarf even the I-400 subs. Although they'd be slow, their speed isn't the selling point. It's the fuck-off huge load of ballistic missiles they carry. Of course, if they Kaied, they would become more conventional guided missiles instead, but that'd just make them all the more useful in that they're no longer restricted to lobbing nukes.
Although I would daresay that if they did have an Akula around at the time, dealing with the Northern Princess would have been a helluva much more different affair.
"I would not have even needed to be exactly on-target, Comrades. Just close enough would have done the job. And if more was needed? Well, I certainly have more to give."
Oh, and these would have been the 'Yamato' of submarines; Akulas are so big and roomy that they have an officer's sauna and swimming pool. No, I am not kidding. They really do have a small swimming pool inside them.
RE: Davy Jones...
Yeah, I'd say he gets a pass, but I also feel that later on there should be a reckoning the likes of the Salvation War. (Sans political ideology malarkey.)
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- Minot, North Dakota
At a little less than 600 feet and around 30000 tons, I guess a 941 Akula (Typhoon) would be about the size of a standard.
Summoning Chamber, Sasebo
Richardson: (sees the new girl on the dock, about the size of Ari and Pennsy) Good we have a new Battleship. Identify yourself.
Girl: I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.
Richardson: (facepalming) not another boomer. They all have the mentality of Marvel villains.
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Farmerbob1
Rest in Peace
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- Atlanta-ish
Does it mass 30,000 tons, or is it capable of displacing up to 30,000 tons of water?
30,000 tons is a enormous mass for an unarmored ship only 600 feet long. If it really massed 30,000 tons, then it must have been shaped more like a blimp than any submarine I've ever seen.
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- Minot, North Dakota
That number is between the surface displacement of about 28000 and submerged displacement of 38000. (full load max displacement was 48000)
I've seldom seen actual mass for a ship listed. Pretty much all the numbers listed in this fiction are displacement. Displacement weight is usually as close as you will get to the actual weight of the vessel. Subs, of course, have to be difficult.
And yes a typhoon looks different from any other sub
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BlackAeronaut
Scaring people witless since 1980
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- A state of mind where it is always ****ing Monday.
Actually, given the lifestyle of a Typhoon's crew? I would say that any Typhoon-class ship girl is going to be incredibly fit and powerful (if not terribly fast)....
....And absurdly jovial and outgoing! Seriously, landing a spot as part of a Typhoon's crew was a helluva peach. And if you had all the Typhoons together, you can bet there's going to be lots of vodka consumed, along with many MANY hair raising, outrageous, and dowright hilarious stories being told - both 'no shit there I was' stories and actual folk tales and legends.
And music. Lots and lots of music.
"Come! Come my American and Japanese Comrades! Tonight may be cold, but the comradeship is warm, and so is the fire."
Of course, there would be moments you might catch them thinking some very deep and somber thoughts. But then they will quickly turn and around and say, in true nihilist fashion, that life is short and one must take the time to enjoy it whenever they can.
Uhm, yeah. This things were fucking MONSTROUS. Calling them 'Whales' is a disservice. These fuckers are LEVIATHANS!!!
That inset in the upper corner? That is to scale.
- Location
- Vancouver WA United States
Typhoon's with a caterpillar... * gets out pen and starts thinking about a certain submarine who defected.* Totally not allowed in this universe but there's always a spin off or two! *starts writing*
Farmerbob1
Rest in Peace
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- Atlanta-ish
That number is between the surface displacement of about 28000 and submerged displacement of 38000. (full load max displacement was 48000)
I've seldom seen actual mass for a ship listed. Pretty much all the numbers listed in this fiction are displacement. Displacement weight is usually as close as you will get to the actual weight of the vessel. Subs, of course, have to be difficult.
And yes a typhoon looks different from any other sub
Well, for any ship that is designed to stay on the surface, water mass displacement and ship mass are the same.
For ships that go under water, I guess the water mass used for ballast when underwater is part of the ship mass calculations. Or something. Compare the mass of a Typhoon to that of the USS Texas, that is roughly the same length, with battleship armor. It just doesn't add up unless the displacement/mass of the Typhoon includes ballast water.
PAGDTenno
Verified Warmind. Probably on fire.
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- South Carolina
Submerged displacement is actually a measurement of volume. Since displacement is water displaced, a submerged submarine has a displacement equal to its volume times the density of water under standard conditions.
Also, despite the titanic size of the Typhoon, it carries fewer missiles than the much smaller Ohio.
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- Minot, North Dakota
It does include ballast water, supplies, diesel fuel for the backup generator, crew, missiles, everything that is on board when you talk about full load displacement. Partly why submerged displacement is variable. A submarine at neutral buoyancy has a lower displacement weight than one with negative buoyancy (diving). Light load surface displacement was about 25000 tons. Probably about as close as you can get to unloaded weight.
And yes, despite their size they were incredibly inefficient. And as unreliable as most Soviet large ships, suffering numerous breakdowns and fires. Of course they didn't have to leave the dock, because their Sturgeon missiles could hit any target in the northern hemisphere.
They are being replaced with a Borei class SSBN. No word as yet as to whether these Boreis stay dressed.
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- Location
- Somewhere in Southern Flipland
"I'm naked, Blyat!!!!!!!"
Also, probably Balans))))))))) incarnate.
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As a side note, please remember that any nuclear-powered ship is going to be significantly heavier than a conventionally-powered ship due to the bulk of the reactor shielding and the weight of the heavy bottom framing required to support the weight of the reactor and its shielding.
By way of example, in the late 60s, during the debate over what form the Nimitz-class carriers would take, one proposal was a conventionally-powered ship with the same waterline dimensions as Enterprise CVN-65. Nuke-E displaced 71,227 tons light and 89,084 tons at full load, while this proposed "CVAL" would have displaced 65,052 tons light and 88,150 tons full load. While the full load difference may not seem like much, the light load is the important thing here--nuclear power increased the weight of the ship by 6200 tons, or nearly 10%.
Given that Texas displaced 22,470.51 tons light as built, and 24,863 tons light after being rebuilt in the late 20s, then, even factoring in the lower density of an SSBN, 26,000 tons light surfaced displacement for the Typhoon/Akulas sounds entirely reasonable purely due to the extra weight of nuclear power.
By way of example, in the late 60s, during the debate over what form the Nimitz-class carriers would take, one proposal was a conventionally-powered ship with the same waterline dimensions as Enterprise CVN-65. Nuke-E displaced 71,227 tons light and 89,084 tons at full load, while this proposed "CVAL" would have displaced 65,052 tons light and 88,150 tons full load. While the full load difference may not seem like much, the light load is the important thing here--nuclear power increased the weight of the ship by 6200 tons, or nearly 10%.
Given that Texas displaced 22,470.51 tons light as built, and 24,863 tons light after being rebuilt in the late 20s, then, even factoring in the lower density of an SSBN, 26,000 tons light surfaced displacement for the Typhoon/Akulas sounds entirely reasonable purely due to the extra weight of nuclear power.
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- Vancouver WA United States
Gale: No, dammit. Borie you were supposed to keep them under control.
Borie: WAAAHHHHH!! NAKED!!!
Gale: ..... God dammit!
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- Minot, North Dakota
Of course Borie joins them. Probably leads them. "Throw off the oppression and the pants of the bourgeois clothes wearers!"
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- United States of America
What about the 41 for Freedom?
All boomers named after famous people in American history.
Do they retain the memories and personalities of their namesakes?
I am think of one boomer in particular the U.S.S. Robert E. Lee would make a very interesting if tragic character.
All boomers named after famous people in American history.
Do they retain the memories and personalities of their namesakes?
I am think of one boomer in particular the U.S.S. Robert E. Lee would make a very interesting if tragic character.
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- Minot, North Dakota
There were a few Rebs in that group of ships. It seems though that other ship girls don't necessarily retain anything from their namesake (almost all American destroyers are named after people, but except for a few details I don't think anything carries over). The ship girl Bobbie Lee might carry a saber as a side arm or wear a grey coat, but that's probably all she would have in common with the Peerless Leader, I mean, the late commander of the army of northern Virgina.
Burning Baron
This position needs more entrenching.
- Location
- In here, not out there.
@Breakaway25 *cough cough*
Return of Red October(Kancolle/Ryanverse snip dump)
Seriously. It makes me quite sad that it stopped. But we do get Krasnyy being Krasnyy.
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Breakaway25
All hail the Mighty Tomcat
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- Stuck on the Quarterdeck
Mostly because I ran out of ideas, and started working 50 hours a week.
Burning Baron
This position needs more entrenching.
- Location
- In here, not out there.
Like I always tell people.
You comes first. If you need to work long hours, then you comes first. It's okay to be a little selfish, on occasion.
And that is, in fact, proper English.
