Keep in mind that the various national governments more or less collapsed like, at least a generation ago if not two generations ago. GDI hasn't had to deal with serious diplomacy for at least a couple of decades. Whatever department of State that was left would be more or less a empty office since it wouldn't have been able to justify a budget because there are no countries left.
Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
From the context, InOps fucked up as expected from military intelligence, and the Major Nod offensive is HAPPENING, approximately 2 turns or half a year before schedule they gave us a year and a half ago.
Also, both the reaction to presume Masterstroke and the general roll-off favored Nod.
Edit: clarified below it was a miscommunication with the roller. It's not a Nod Major offensive just yet, merely trying their more desperate and daring projects.
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- He/Him
It does--one of the reasons I've been going hard into Tokyo in every draft I make is it's one of our R-cheaper ways to get Capital Goods quick.
But as @Crazycryodude pointed out, nothing else gives as much bang per die in how it solidifies our military position--and I think it's fairly close to the top in terms of bang per R. That's worth our cap goods surplus.
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- Location
- The Underdark
The thing is that GDI fully went from being a branch of the UN to being the world government, nearly thirty years ago. It is more that skills and approaches atropied over that timeframe, and the situation changed repeatedly. In 1997, GDI had a fairly substantial lobbying corps, In 2027, that was significantly smaller, and in 2047 it was pretty well "GDI or Enemy.
- Pronouns
- Erd
can we try to include that in any plan; Early Prototype General Artificial Intelligence Development
From the discord:
In other words, we can go back down to normal panic levels. Heightened panic levels are not necessary.Ithillid said:
- Location
- his hidden lair
Others have already talked about the decline of those institutions over time- but I think it's also a bit of how GDI as a state perceives itself. Blue Zones are not organized on any strictly national or even geographic lines, merely on what GDI could originally hold and maintain originally. Likewise- GDI seems aggressively against federalism or local autonomy. There's no regional interests specifically represented (Initiative First notwithstanding), no geographic voting districts, no exact metropole beyond the simple nature of expansion springing outwards from the blue zones.
If you're taking such great pains to eliminate nationalism from the equation and establish what is despite all the criticism, a truly global state trying to represent humanity as a unified body- you probably don't think in terms of dealing with other states. It's not like a lot of people in GDI are going to think NOD is a legitimate state (and given that Kane aside, there is no strict monopoly on force, and warlords are by definition capable of leveraging force- NOD arguably isn't a state), and even it's attitude right now towards the rest of the yellow zones is mostly 'lapsed citizens who due to the exigencies of a world collapsing are only being reintegrated now'. GDI sees itself as a one world government, it's reformed itself in such a way unique to arguably be a world government. A state department, built around recognizing and interacting with other states is going to be a bit of a departure from how it views itself and how it views the world around it.
- Location
- USA
Next turn we could use the dice on SCRIN and NOD research this turn to put one there and one on EVA dev but otherwise that would eat up too many resources this turn.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Have we come up with consensus for where we want to source our next batch of Capital Goods from? I've for a plan draft that's ready except for that bit.
- Location
- USA
In HI? We need power and logistics from there first so not a this quarter issue- but Nuuk is our best source for large amounts. For LCI- Myomer is 20R per dice and is more cap good than energy while superconductor is 30R per dice and is more energy than cap goods
From what I understand we are pursuing a mix. First the low lying fruit from Blue Zone Heavy Industries so that we can complete wartime factory refits, then switch to the more efficient (in later stages) Tokyo or Nuuk.
We might also pick up a few cap goods from myomers or spider cotton, but that'll depend on our resource and dice availability over the coming year.
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Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
[ ] Plan Draft
Infrastructure (5 dice)
-[ ] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 3), 1 die (10 Resources)
-[ ] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2), 2 dice (30 Resources)
-[ ] Integrated Cargo System, 2 dice (30 Resources)
Heavy Industry (4 dice)
-[ ] Automated Civilian Shipyards, 2 dice (40 Resources)
Light and Chemical Industry (4 dice)
-[ ] Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner, 2 dice (40 Resources)
-[ ] Security Review, 1 die
Agriculture (3 dice)
Tiberium (5 dice)
-[ ] Red Zone Tiberium Harvesting (Stage 11), 2 dice (50 Resources)
-[ ] Tiberium Glacier Mining (Stage 11), 3 dice (90 Resources)
Orbital (4 dice)
-[ ] GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 4), 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[ ] Expand Orbital Communications Network (Phase 5), 1 die (10 Resources)
-[ ] Nanotube Hull Panelling Development, 1 die (5 Resources)
Services (4 dice)
-[ ] NOD Research Initiatives, 1 die (30 Resources)
-[ ] Scrin Research Initiatives, 1 die (30 Resources)
-[ ] Green Zone Teacher Colleges, 1 die (5 Resources)
-[ ] Remedial Education Program Expansions, 1 die (5 Resources)
Military (6 dice +4 Free)
-[ ] Shimmer Shield Development, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[ ] Orca Refit Deployment, 2 dice (30 Resources)
-[ ] Hydrofoil Shipyard (Bulsan-Ulsan), 1 die (10 Resources)
-[ ] Laser Point Defense Refits, 5 dice (75 Resources)
-[ ] Security Review, 1 die
-[ ] ???
Bureaucracy (3 dice +1 Free)
-[ ] Security Reviews (Military), 2 dice
-[ ] Security Reviews LCI, 2 dice
Resources Available: 590
Resources Spent: 565
Resources Remaining: 25
First draft here, with questions like tube arty vs orcas and what to do with the last military die (probably ZOCOM).
Infrastructure (5 dice)
-[ ] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 3), 1 die (10 Resources)
-[ ] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2), 2 dice (30 Resources)
-[ ] Integrated Cargo System, 2 dice (30 Resources)
Heavy Industry (4 dice)
-[ ] Automated Civilian Shipyards, 2 dice (40 Resources)
Light and Chemical Industry (4 dice)
-[ ] Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner, 2 dice (40 Resources)
-[ ] Security Review, 1 die
Agriculture (3 dice)
Tiberium (5 dice)
-[ ] Red Zone Tiberium Harvesting (Stage 11), 2 dice (50 Resources)
-[ ] Tiberium Glacier Mining (Stage 11), 3 dice (90 Resources)
Orbital (4 dice)
-[ ] GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 4), 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[ ] Expand Orbital Communications Network (Phase 5), 1 die (10 Resources)
-[ ] Nanotube Hull Panelling Development, 1 die (5 Resources)
Services (4 dice)
-[ ] NOD Research Initiatives, 1 die (30 Resources)
-[ ] Scrin Research Initiatives, 1 die (30 Resources)
-[ ] Green Zone Teacher Colleges, 1 die (5 Resources)
-[ ] Remedial Education Program Expansions, 1 die (5 Resources)
Military (6 dice +4 Free)
-[ ] Shimmer Shield Development, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[ ] Orca Refit Deployment, 2 dice (30 Resources)
-[ ] Hydrofoil Shipyard (Bulsan-Ulsan), 1 die (10 Resources)
-[ ] Laser Point Defense Refits, 5 dice (75 Resources)
-[ ] Security Review, 1 die
-[ ] ???
Bureaucracy (3 dice +1 Free)
-[ ] Security Reviews (Military), 2 dice
-[ ] Security Reviews LCI, 2 dice
Resources Available: 590
Resources Spent: 565
Resources Remaining: 25
First draft here, with questions like tube arty vs orcas and what to do with the last military die (probably ZOCOM).
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[] Plan Wartime Factory Refits and orca's
Infra 5/5 60R +21
-[] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 3) 154/300 3 die 30R 95%
-[] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 549/650 2 dice 30R 91%
HI 4/4 80R +16
-[] Automated Civilian Shipyards 139/250 2 dice 40R 80%
-[] Continuous Cycle Fusion Plant (Phase 2) 22/300 2 dice 40R
LCI 2/4 20R +11
-[] Security Review 1 die
Agri 2/3 20R +11
-[] Security Review 1 die
-[] Wadmalaw Kudzu Development 0/40 1 die 20R 92%
Tiberium 6/6 135R +24
-[] Red Zone Tiberium Harvesting (Stage 11) 46/130 1 dice 25R 56%
-[] Tiberium Glacier Mining (Stage 11) 30/180 3 Dice 90R 96%
-[] Railgun Harvester Factories (Albany) 0/70 1 die 10R 70%
-[] Railgun Harvester Factories (Maputo) 0/70 1 die 10R 70%
Orbital 5/5 75R +9
-[] GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 4) 100/715 3 dice 60R
-[] Expand Orbital Communications Network (Phase 5) (Final) 79/135 1 die 10R 69%
-[] Nanotube Hull Panelling Development (New) 0/30 1 die 5R 95%
Services 4/4 70R +16
-[] Green Zone Teacher Colleges (New) 0/200 1 die 5R 0%
-[] Remedial Education Program Expansions (New) 0/120 1 die 5R 12%
-[] NOD Research Initiatives 124/160 1 die 30R 100%
-[] Scrin Research Institutions 328/350 1 die 30R 100%
Military 6/6+3 free 145R +13
-[] Wartime Factory Refits (Phase 2) 52/90 1 die 20R 91%
-[] Shimmer Shield Development 0/60 1 die 20R 74%
-[] Naval Point Defense 0/330 5 dice 75R 52%
-[] Orca Refit Deployment 0/200 2 dice 30R 9%
Bureau 3/3+2 free +11
-[] Security Reviews (LCI) 2 dice +1 LCI 98%
-[] Security Reviews: (Agri) 1 die+ 1 agri 72%
-[] Lobby For Establishment of Negotiation Corps (New) 3 dice 91%
Free 6/6
4 bureau, 2 mil
585/585 + 5 reserve
We have zone armor factories building suits by hand fixing that is a higher priority than keeping a capital goods reserve.
the new Orca's will provide support to ZOCOM and fly of the existing fleet carriers
Infra 5/5 60R +21
-[] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 3) 154/300 3 die 30R 95%
-[] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 549/650 2 dice 30R 91%
HI 4/4 80R +16
-[] Automated Civilian Shipyards 139/250 2 dice 40R 80%
-[] Continuous Cycle Fusion Plant (Phase 2) 22/300 2 dice 40R
LCI 2/4 20R +11
-[] Security Review 1 die
Agri 2/3 20R +11
-[] Security Review 1 die
-[] Wadmalaw Kudzu Development 0/40 1 die 20R 92%
Tiberium 6/6 135R +24
-[] Red Zone Tiberium Harvesting (Stage 11) 46/130 1 dice 25R 56%
-[] Tiberium Glacier Mining (Stage 11) 30/180 3 Dice 90R 96%
-[] Railgun Harvester Factories (Albany) 0/70 1 die 10R 70%
-[] Railgun Harvester Factories (Maputo) 0/70 1 die 10R 70%
Orbital 5/5 75R +9
-[] GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 4) 100/715 3 dice 60R
-[] Expand Orbital Communications Network (Phase 5) (Final) 79/135 1 die 10R 69%
-[] Nanotube Hull Panelling Development (New) 0/30 1 die 5R 95%
Services 4/4 70R +16
-[] Green Zone Teacher Colleges (New) 0/200 1 die 5R 0%
-[] Remedial Education Program Expansions (New) 0/120 1 die 5R 12%
-[] NOD Research Initiatives 124/160 1 die 30R 100%
-[] Scrin Research Institutions 328/350 1 die 30R 100%
Military 6/6+3 free 145R +13
-[] Wartime Factory Refits (Phase 2) 52/90 1 die 20R 91%
-[] Shimmer Shield Development 0/60 1 die 20R 74%
-[] Naval Point Defense 0/330 5 dice 75R 52%
-[] Orca Refit Deployment 0/200 2 dice 30R 9%
Bureau 3/3+2 free +11
-[] Security Reviews (LCI) 2 dice +1 LCI 98%
-[] Security Reviews: (Agri) 1 die+ 1 agri 72%
-[] Lobby For Establishment of Negotiation Corps (New) 3 dice 91%
Free 6/6
4 bureau, 2 mil
585/585 + 5 reserve
We have zone armor factories building suits by hand fixing that is a higher priority than keeping a capital goods reserve.
the new Orca's will provide support to ZOCOM and fly of the existing fleet carriers
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- He/Him
Gib Nanotube Paneling please
I think it's worse to fail a security review than to not do it at all, so you might want to axe the review of the agriculture department.
You currently have LCI as using 20 resources with no projects in it.
Maybe cut the kudzu for this turn and use the free die from the security review to finish the hydrofoil shipyards instead?
Other than that I like it.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Is it worth sacrificing a Philadelphia die for, or should I take the resources from military? (My last 10 resources were likely to go to ZOCOM, and I want to keep up Orbital Comms for the logistics.)
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- He/Him
I'd say its worth sacrificing the orbital comms die for, but thats me.
Why are we doing a security review of the military this turn? It's been less than three years since the last military review, and you are already reviewing LCI. We could use those 3 dice for the negotiation team, which will likely have a much larger impact on saving lives and equipment for more important battles. We are going to want it eventually for the boost to TCN negotiations against Kane, and we might as well get it now to start getting the other benefits sooner and building institutional experience for the showdown.
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Seo has NEEDS, and in this case, it's a need for us to keep doing SCIENCE!
Durabys
Miaow! Break the Chains!
- Location
- the land of the Boii
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- He/Him
In the Discord the GM confirmed that the sooner we start the AI Lab (it is an extremely LONG project, it may take even a century) the higher the probability is that we will have something like Bolo-style AI's (aka Uber Hyper Loyal Unhackable General Artificial Intelligences) when we meet the Citadel Council in the SequelQuest (99% chance this will be a ME fusion Quest).
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- Location
- USA
1 turn should not make a difference- as if if we dropped 2 dice into it this turn that would need to pull R from other sections and cause them to go idle.
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- He/Him
Eh...
Throw in Wartime Factory Refits and I'll vote for it.
Also, Orcas first, it helps everyone.
I'm worried about income for both of these plans, though, actually. But not much you can do about that without building the plan around it--again.
Just one quarter? We're a bit strapped for cash at the moment and that 20R/die really stings.
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