I'm not actually sure how we calculate Zone growth anymore. Do Blue Zones grow and shrink with the Green Zones now?
At least Red Zones growing into Yellow Zones are still the same.
 
I'm not actually sure how we calculate Zone growth anymore. Do Blue Zones grow and shrink with the Green Zones now?
At least Red Zones growing into Yellow Zones are still the same.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it's Green Zones that will be shrinking as Blue Zones Grow.

Since Green Zones are just Yellow Zones under GDI control. And therefore they'd be the parts of the Yellow Zones closest to the Blue Zones, and where all the abatement is happening.
 
Mutated Tiberium: "BEHOLD... MY TRUE FORM!"

GDI: "Still not impressed."

Mutated Tiberium: "JUST BE PATIENT, OKAY?"

I'm not actually sure how we calculate Zone growth anymore. Do Blue Zones grow and shrink with the Green Zones now?
At least Red Zones growing into Yellow Zones are still the same.
I'm pretty sure GDI can't actually secure and Blue-ify Yellow Zone territory it hasn't physically secured, so I suspect that Blue Zone growth now comes at the 'expense' of Green Zones.

If we run out of Green Zone, we've basically terraformed all our Yellow Zone territory back into Blue Zones and advanced the Blue Zone borders to be coterminous with GDI's territorial borders. It's not clear to me whether we'd be able to keep expanding the Blue Zones further without military offensives to secure more Yellow Zone territory.
 
What you're missing is that CGP Gray is making that video in the context of real life Western society, where individual vehicle ownership is very high, mass transit utilization is very low, and people still live in big sprawling suburbs in the US.

GDI does not have this society; life in GDI is not identical to life in the 2020 West, or for that matter the 1995 West at the point of departure when tiberium first appeared.

While I'm sure there are still private individuals commuting to work in personal vehicles, there has been little or no manufacture of personal cars since 2047, and it is now 2057.

Car fleets are shrinking relative to the scale of the road network.

Buses and rail transit (with correspondingly lower accident injury rates per passenger-mile) are expanding relative to the scale of the working population.

Thus, the problem CGP Gray documents does not exist to the same extent in GDI's society, because of the ways GDI's society is different from real life.

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Therefore, the main impact of introducing self-driving vehicles is labor savings. Accident rates will have already been driven down dramatically by reduced traffic levels, and quite possibly also by safety innovations built into NON-self-driving cars such as collision warning systems. What will be impactful is the elimination of demand for individual drivers of vehicles... but this requires that the self-driving systems be capable of safely operating heavy machinery such as vans, buses, trucks, bulldozers, and so on.

Hence, this is likely to be a research project that frees up Labor in exchange for Capital Goods, not a project that frees up Logistics and Health in exchange for Capital Goods.

We should really be making bikes now. Preferably the upright ones they use in the Netherlands. As well as mopeds. Hell be like that town in Georgia and go full golf cart.

I'm not totally opposed to restarting production for cars. However, we seem to be doing a lot more acrology stuff so it's becoming less needed. I do think we probably missed out on a synergy though by not taking it early. Having an auto industry would give us resources to poach for military vehicles. Or even people to bid out to. Now we're stuck making stuff on our own.
 
I'm not actually sure how we calculate Zone growth anymore. Do Blue Zones grow and shrink with the Green Zones now?
At least Red Zones growing into Yellow Zones are still the same.

Green Zones shrink as Blue Zones grow and we need to conquer more Yellow Zone territory to gain Green Zone territory. That or suffer a shrinkage in Blue Zones. See here:

Tiberium‌ ‌Spread‌ ‌
16.04 Blue Zone
4.96 Green Zone
22.13 Yellow Zone (88 points of mitigation)
56.87 Red Zone (61 points of mitigation)
Another little spoiler for next turn

Green Zone is a purely political distinction. What will happen is that Blue+Green represents GDI controlled land area, while Yellow is now only Nod controlled regions. But in terms of abatement, Blue zones will now eat into Green zones, and Red will eat into Yellow. The only ways Green can grow is if Blue Zones are shrinking, or you complete more phases of things that expand your control of the world.
 
Green Zones shrink as Blue Zones grow and we need to conquer more Yellow Zone territory to gain Green Zone territory. That or suffer a shrinkage in Blue Zones. See here:
Say, am I the only one taking note how BZ and GZ together add up to 20% exactly, which is exactly what pre-Tiberium War Three ratio was for Blue Zones before they took a beating?

Sure, it may not quite be the equivalent of going back to prewar borders for GDI... But propaganda can spin it that way, probably. Not sure whose, though.


45 yellow, 88 mitigation, net reduction by 0.43% before mutation or our own abatement projects.

BZ 16.47
GZ 4.53

38 red, 61 mitigation, net reduction by 0.23% before mutation and our own abatement projects

YZ 22.36
RZ 56.64
Edit 2: Nevermind. Noticed my brain mistaken. It's 21% after all...

Brain. Why.
 
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We should really be making bikes now. Preferably the upright ones they use in the Netherlands. As well as mopeds. Hell be like that town in Georgia and go full golf cart.
Eh. Making small commuter vehicles that are useful more or less only as light urban commuter vehicles has advantages...

I'm not totally opposed to restarting production for cars.
...But there are practical purposes for which a personal vehicle is useful, if only for business purposes (e.g. contractor with a pickup truck full of tools, police squad car), and we still have a countryside, where individual ability to travel is more valuable because it's just plain not economical to run a high-capacity public transport network out in the sticks.

It's probably actually kind of a problem for our economy that we have less and less personal vehicles, most of them over ten years old or much too big to be practical for things like "transport one person and 100 kilograms of cargo around town."

Having an auto industry would give us resources to poach for military vehicles. Or even people to bid out to. Now we're stuck making stuff on our own.
Ehhh. On the other hand, we've kept or at most mothballed a lot of the wartime military vehicle production lines from the Tib War Three mobilization. I'm not sure that's a problem.
 
Green zones are yellow zones we control.

So how it works is the coming turn we shrink green zones and grow blue zones. Meanwhile we also reduce red zone contamination (thanks darkandus!)

But, just because that yellow zone is growing doesn't necessarily mean nod controls is. So, the red zone we're turning yellow will either go green, or if it's in an area we can't control too well then it will go yellow. But, just being yellow doesn't mean nod controls it, it means GDI doesn't.

So, right now GDi controls roughly 21% of the worlds landmass, but that 22.36% yellow zone isn't controlled all by nod. so it's likely, possible even, that we actually control more territory than Nod.

The tricky part is going to be deciding whether/how much red zone goes green or just yellow.
 
The tricky part is going to be deciding whether/how much red zone goes green or just yellow.
It will all go yellow, because just because you are beating back the Red Zones a bit does not mean that you actually meaningfully control the region. There is no infrastructure there, no population, and the hardware needs to move into the Red Zone again to keep on top of that.
 
Average result, since normally the numbers cancel out each other with first roll/second roll for effective average mutation damage to Abatement over time. Still, I'd be happy with a average result, especially when in the future where average rolls would translate into above average results from the +1 on time to next mutation.

The choice of the Tiberium Mutation sacrifice roller was right after all! Woohoo!
 
For the Love of the Prophet
For the Love of the Prophet

Brother Jakob clutched tightly the package he carried as the airlock pressurized slightly before opening into the inner Sanctum. Kane's ultimate fortress was resplendent, and he took a moment to marvel at it-ancient artwork, from Babylon to Beijing, decorated the room, the loot of a thousand NOD offensives. Here, was enthroned the true master of the world, with all his greatest treasures. The red lights here were brighter, and arranged to cast minimal shadows, a sign of Kane's illumination of the truth. Truth Jakob was seeking.

"Brother Jakob, you said you had something for me?" The Prophet's desk was relatively clear, and he waved aside a few holograms to tent his hands and peer at Jakob over his fingertips. "Your work has been good, but you keep coming back to me for guidance, is there something amiss?" The prophet's face was penetrating, and Jakob banished impure thoughts from his head. While he might lust after other men, the Prophet Kane was not other men.

"News from a mole within GDI has reached us of a new program of staggering scale to produce an unprecedented number of space-based assets, hundreds or perhaps thousands of satellites. These photos were provided with the package and we cannot determine the nature of the device. I was hoping you might offer us your insight." Jakob handed over the package and stood like a statue at attention, as Kane took it and tore open the seals.

Kane's eyebrow quirked up a fraction as he looked at the first picture. "Some kind of electronics surveillance satellite brother, is this all you have for me?" Jakob shook his head and spoke up. "We thought it such before sir, but the solar arrays are enormous. The dish not a receiver, it's a transmitter, one of enormous power. There's nothing else visible on this design of satellite that can possibly use so much power." Kane looked closer and paged through the delicate pages of carefully smuggled images.

"Yes, I see what you mean. This is indeed puzzling. Some kind of radar, perhaps or..." Kane's face shifted almost imperceptibly and then he smiled dangerously. "Oh, Granger, you clever child. I would not have thought..." The Prophet cut himself off and smiled blazingly at Jakob. "Brother, I want you to take this to our Tiberium research division, and tell them to simulate a network of such satellites. I will send you a message of the exact frequency and pattern of the broadcast-it will not be overly complex." He folded the pictures back up and thrust them at Jakob and in his haste Jakob stepped forward to take them-only to find the Prophet rising to thrust them into his hands and grasp him by the wrist. His mind stopped as the Prophet leaned in. "I believe we will see a wondrous blasphemy from GDI. If they can manage this, well. I must send some tribute to the good General and Doctor." Kane withdrew his hand, and Jakob felt his breathing restart. "Peace Through Power, brother."
 
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