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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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The Jovian said:
I would have to respectfully disagree. There is no guarantee that the Scrin can be defeated should they return in force next time around, especially since we have no idea what that invulnerable tower they built in Italy even does. Keeping Humanity alive should trump all other goals and considerations including maintaining control over Earth, the only way to ensure Humanity's survival is to get at least some of it permanently off Earth.
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Do you really think the Scrin will stop if we abandon Earth? Do you think anywhere is safe in the Solar system if the Threshold activates? When the Scrin come, and we must assume they will again, GDI must have a forward deployment that enables a counter offensive against the Scrin before they establish more Thresholds, portal networks, or exotic weapons of mass destruction.

The Scrin invasion was only stopped due to GDI quickly regaining the strategic initiative and launching a massive counteroffensive that stopped them before they could assemble any more Thresholds. Abandoning Earth just hands the next invasion force all the Tiberium it needs to fuel its campaign against us and cedes the initiative when we can least afford it. Humanity must stand its ground on Earth, or risk dying like dogs as the Scrin hunt us among the stars.

Likewise, any technology that might let us escape theSolar system must be assumed to have already been developed by the Scrin, ensuring there is no succor amongst the stars.
 
I will be closing the vote in 12 hours. Currently, the winner is Dr. Granger and Tiberium Abatement, however everything can change.
 
[X] Plan Race For The Stars
-[X] Vice Admiral Harrison Carter
-[X] Orbital Evacuations

Look to the stars! Look to the stars, for the Earth is dying. Earth will soon be no more. But we will endure! We will survive! We will prosper!
 
Karugus said:
Do you really think the Scrin will stop if we abandon Earth? Do you think anywhere is safe in the Solar system if the Threshold activates? When the Scrin come, and we must assume they will again, GDI must have a forward deployment that enables a counter offensive against the Scrin before they establish more Thresholds, portal networks, or exotic weapons of mass destruction.

The Scrin invasion was only stopped due to GDI quickly regaining the strategic initiative and launching a massive counteroffensive that stopped them before they could assemble any more Thresholds. Abandoning Earth just hands the next invasion force all the Tiberium it needs to fuel its campaign against us and cedes the initiative when we can least afford it. Humanity must stand its ground on Earth, or risk dying like dogs as the Scrin hunt us among the stars.

Likewise, any technology that might let us escape theSolar system must be assumed to have already been developed by the Scrin, ensuring there is no succor amongst the stars.
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Well every thing we know about the scrin is that what attacked us was a mining colony. So the victory we got before is hollow cause we weren't facing soldiers we were facing miners and a small escort. I'm not one to leave things to chance I'm also not abandoning the earth but getting people off it, civilians out of danger zones then we can focus on clean up operations
 
Twiggierjet said:
If we choose to adapt to Tiberium we won't need to worry about any of this stuff though. We will be able to just hang out on earth and do whatever.
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And what happens when the Scrin arrive and find us still consuming Tiberium? I can assure you the Traveller and Reaper sects will not co as friends.

To make ourselves depend upon and part of a Tiberium ecosystem is to make ourselves depend on the substance the Scrin have been mastering before we developed fire.

If we were Nod, I'd be all for embracing the sacred crystal, but half the fun of GDI is telling a horrific self replicating super advanced alien technology to hippity hoppity get the hell off Earth's property.
zac1 said:
Well every thing we know about the scrin is that what attacked us was a mining colony. So the victory we got before is hollow cause we weren't facing soldiers we were facing miners and a small escort. I'm not one to leave things to chance I'm also not abandoning the earth but getting people off it, civilians out of danger zones then we can focus on clean up operations
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I don't necessarily disagree with evacuating civilians from what's likely to be a warzone- but we need to keep Tiberium from overrunning more of the world sooner than later. Once the abatement is in place, then we can safely deploy more orbital infrastructure and start evacuating civilians. If we try and start an evacuation before we slow down the spread of Tiberium our position on earth will probably be pretty undermined as we're forced to increasingly operate like ZOCOM.

And while it was a hollow victory over a mining force, we can start reverse engineering Scrin tech to try and shorten the gap.
 
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zac1 said:
Well every thing we know about the scrin is that what attacked us was a mining colony. So the victory we got before is hollow cause we weren't facing soldiers we were facing miners and a small escort. I'm not one to leave things to chance I'm also not abandoning the earth but getting people off it, civilians out of danger zones then we can focus on clean up operations
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Victory is never hollow when you defeat someone from interstellar civilisation as planet-bound one, regardless of other things.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Brogatar on Feb 18, 2021 at 10:51 AM, finished with 69 posts and 40 votes.
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Twiggierjet said:
We fight them with our awesome tiberium mutant powers.
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I admire your chutzpah. But I suspect the Scrin have more awesome Tiberium mutant powers than we would :V

Although this raises an interesting point, I'm pretty sure Ghoststalker is alive if whereabouts unknown. With Nod on the outs (at least until LEGION unleashes the Marked of Kane), the Scrin threat apparent, and with GDI ramping up its reclamation presence, bringing the Forgotten on board is probably something we should do. Especially since the Third Tiberium War and the Scrin probably lead to a massive increase in mutant numbers.
 
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    • I am going to call the vote here, for plan Reclamation.
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    Dr. Granger
    Congratulations on your appointment as Chairman of the Global Defense Initiative Treasury. I have full confidence in your ability, and in your program. While the road ahead will be hard, and the dangers many, we will persevere, and eventually succeed. This is a path that can only be trod with honor, and with dignity. Be sure to remember that in your world of spreadsheets.
    Sincerely,
    Director, Global Defense Initiative: Jack Granger

    ♦ Topic: New Treasury Secretary
    In: Boards ► Government and Policy
    Jeffery Anders     (Original Poster) (GDI Liason)
    Posted On Jan 5th 2050:
    The most recent of General Granger's new appointments is Dr. James Granger. Formerly of the Edinburgh Tiberium Research Institute, Dr. Granger promises a new wave of Tiberium abatement measures as part of a long term recovery program for the world economy. Granger will lead a team of experienced professionals and crisis hardened veterans to begin fixing the problems created by Redmond Boyle, the Third Tiberium War, and the Scrin invasion.
    Dr. Granger's work on Tiberium processing and toxicity can be found here, here, and here.
    Please join me in welcoming a new face for the Treasury Department.

    Memo: Current Economic Situation
    In short, chairman, we don't even know how bad the situation is. The power grids are fragmented enough that traffic on GDI forums is down to between ⅙ and ⅕ normal use. Similarly, food production has significant surpluses in some areas, and severe shortfalls in others. With the end of the war, millions of soldiers recruited for the war effort are doing little besides sitting in camps, while refugee camps starve.
    Additionally, tiberium spread is currently uncontrolled. The war has spread Tiberium into many of the surviving blue zones, and the subsequence Serejavo blast, and Scrin invasion both spread Tiberium further.

    (Edit: Starting Political Support is 50)
    First, a level of commitment is needed:
    [ ]15% of GNP: An actual cut in discretionary spending could be reasonably popular amongst the people as this would indicate high confidence in the plan. In practice, this would allow the Initiative to have more resources for other tasks. (+20 Political Support, 75 Resources per turn)
    [ ]20% of GNP: The initial proposal for the resources committed to the Treasury and involves only moderate rearrangements of resources to accomplish policy. (100 Resources per turn)
    [ ]25% of GNP: A moderate increase in allocation and a more aggressive economic policy is adopted to free up resources for immediate response to the Tiberium threat. (-5 Political Support, 125 Resources per turn)
    [ ]30% of GNP: A number of significant shifts away from other projects are started to ensure resources can be freed up for accomplishing the investment plan. (-20 Political Support, 150 Resources per turn)
    [ ]40% of GNP: While allocating a full forty percent of GDI's resources to development is possible, it would require significant sacrifices in other areas and would be difficult to sustain long term. If results are not achieved soon, it will likely lead to your removal. (-30 Political Support, 200 Resources per turn)


    Second, Dice Allocations. While there are many possible combinations, please select two of the following to be the focus. Each field will begin with three dice, while the focus fields will receive four.

    [ ] Infrastructure
    [ ] Heavy Industry
    [ ] Light and Chemical Industry
    [ ] Tiberium
    [ ] Agriculture
    [ ] Orbital Industry
    [ ] Services
    [ ] Military

    Votes will open in two hours. Please vote by plan.
     
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    • One can never go wrong with better Infrastructure to move things around and I'm split between the industries for making things.
     
    [] Plan : Invest in the Future
    -[] 40% of GNP
    -[] Tiberium
    -[] Services

    Put it simply, we have no other choice. We have 25 dice. Even with the highest investment, we will be strictly resource limited. Hence, pick the highest option, else we don't get to do anything.

    Also, picking an extra dice on Tiberium because that is our focus area, and what we're best at.
     
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