At the very least, there is a beachhead. And we have forced the regions Heavy reserves forward. That is good. Not happy with with a shark being ruined by a single det charge but what can you do. NOD Stealth commandos is basically their thing.

There also seems to be some dissension in the ranks given the text but that doesn't exactly help.
 
Next phase of the battle is, IIRC, facing better weather, and a way better roll for us.

Orbital death beams will probably feature to remove annoying hard points.
 
If the weather had not been crap, you would have. The issue is that when the entire battlefield (effectively) has OSRCT troops on it, you are not going to be unleashing your multikiloton death rays.
Wait if our network is multi-kilon how does NOD have a single piece of visible infrastructure not melted to slag, when we couldn't sink a battleship way back I thought we were talking MOAB at best.
 
At the very least, there is a beachhead. And we have forced the regions Heavy reserves forward. That is good. Not happy with with a shark being ruined by a single det charge but what can you do. NOD Stealth commandos is basically their thing.

There also seems to be some dissension in the ranks given the text but that doesn't exactly help.
NOD is basically a neo-feudal warlord state. When isn't there dissension in the ranks?
 
As is, a bunch of GDI's cool stuff just feels like it never shows up.

*points at Forgotten clans sabotaging nod and mostly escaping from almost everything nod could throw at them.

I'd be more interested in the concept if we ever commit to nuclear deployments of our own, but any heavy ordinance of ours has the magical property of never being available outside of a single set piece battle. None of the ion cannons seemed to have been in position for intercepting or punishing nuclear strikes on critical infrastructure.

*Points at GDI blasting every nod convoy they saw so hard that the caravanserai begged us to stop, turned 'neutral' and have been slapping around Ten Rings.
 
Wait if our network is multi-kilon how does NOD have a single piece of visible infrastructure not melted to slag, when we couldn't sink a battleship way back I thought we were talking MOAB at best.
Building infrastructure in/around civilians, not having much visible infrastructure, and with the battleship inventing an anti ion cannon defenses that can defuse the shots.
 
Wait if our network is multi-kilon how does NOD have a single piece of visible infrastructure not melted to slag, when we couldn't sink a battleship way back I thought we were talking MOAB at best.

Because doing that would make clear to Nod we are in a war to the hilt, and they would unleash every dirty trick they've got. Nukes, chemical warfare, biowarfare agents, all smuggled into GDI cities through Shadow Teams and designed to wreck everything. It would break Nod and GDI, and the Earth would be swallowed by tiberium in a decade.

Also, that battleship had an ion inhibitor. If it weren't for that, it would've been sunk.
 
I mean, strategically, things are going alright. the offensive slowed but they broke out the Nukes real early and didn't drop it on the advance or on population centers, they largely were use as terror tactics and industrial denial.

Our Drop companies got savaged but they did their jobs as new age paratroops.
Dropp companies got the Helldiver experience initially ngl. Those Power Armours are a hell of a force mutilplier but their combat effectiveness is severely hampered by battery life. Something RnD no doubt might want to look into.
 
Building infrastructure in/around civilians, not having much visible infrastructure, and with the battleship inventing an anti ion cannon defenses that can defuse the shots.

Slight correction. Yes, the battleship has an anti-ion shield. But that's an upgrade to the existing shields to be able to power a mobile version.

Nod has had static anti-ion cannon shields since before the third tib war when the temple of nod had the shields which had to be taken down conventionally before GDI could target the battlefield with ion sats.

Beyond that. Look at when GDI did ion cannon temple prime, it set off a liquid tib deposit and most of eastern europe and the balkans got turned to red zone. Not to mention signalling to the visitors to invade.
 
Wait if our network is multi-kilon how does NOD have a single piece of visible infrastructure not melted to slag,
The word "visible" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

when we couldn't sink a battleship way back I thought we were talking MOAB at best.
That particular battleship had shield generators specifically immune to ion cannons, and powered by some kind of Bentusi/Scrintech wireless power transmitter system because not even a goddamn tiberium reactor on a battleship can drive something that impressive.
 
What would that have given us here? Orbital Nuclear Caches just removes our nukes from the ground so NOD can't steal/repurpose them against us, but NOD didn't do that here. All the nukes they used were NOD produced, or stolen long ago.

It would give us a way to nuke NOD in response. Maybe NOD will be a bit less nuke happy after we give them a taste of their own medicine. No more fighting against these terrorist scum with one hand behind our back.
 
I read off and on bit I thought the issue with that was we reached a dead end and not that the player base chose not to do it.
nope
[ ] Stealth Disruptor Deployment
While overall less effective than the still around nine kilometer range of current generation sensors, the stealth disruptor is still a potentially useful tool, and one that needs further development as both an attack surface against such targets as stealth tanks and Vertigo bombers, and as a means of ensuring that next generation stealth combats remain in the Initiative's favor.
(Progress 0/160: 15 resources per die) (-1 Capital Goods, -2 Energy) (Projected 6 quarters to begin, 8 quarters to complete) (Will time out at end of plan)
Was there all the way up through Q4. This is how tech broadly works. You have alternating developments and deployments.

The cycle basically goes like this.

Initial tech dev -> Initial tech deployment -> tech has time in the field -> improved version of the tech is ready for development.
 
Not going to lie, I ended up just skimming a lot of this update. It just seems like a whole lot of downer shit and "everything goes wrong, here is the PAIN!" I don't know WHY everything is fucked besides just "bad rolls", but this looks a lot like an utter mess I don't want to deal with. Maybe it would be easier to deal with if it was shorter chapter. A 10K long list of fail is a lot to deal with in one sitting.
 
It would give us a way to nuke NOD in response. Maybe NOD will be a bit less nuke happy after we give them a taste of their own medicine. No more fighting against these terrorist scum with one hand behind our back.
Nuke what exactly? Anything that shoots nukes at any of our stuff is either
  1. getting erased by ortillery.
  2. underwater
  3. a hand held nuclear weapon
  4. a population center
Like all having nukes dropped would do is leave a radiated hellhole on something that was very likely written off or ineffective to nukes in general or outright monstrous.

A better reason to have nuclear space storage would be to have outside of Easy NOD acquisition teams. As they would be in space.

I understand the frustration, but we already have things that do nuke things without making our planet worse.

On less inflammatory topic, it is good know that the Cyborg conversion we have seen aren't up to Mark of Kane Bots and that the GANA were old generation.
 
It would give us a way to nuke NOD in response. Maybe NOD will be a bit less nuke happy after we give them a taste of their own medicine. No more fighting against these terrorist scum with one hand behind our back.

Not going to lie, I ended up just skimming a lot of this update. It just seems like a whole lot of downer shit and "everything goes wrong, here is the PAIN!" I don't know WHY everything is fucked besides just "bad rolls", but this looks a lot like an utter mess I don't want to deal with. Maybe it would be easier to deal with if it was shorter chapter. A 10K long list of fail is a lot to deal with in one sitting.


I want you to remember, if you will, the end of the regency war. Where, you know, GDI Styled All over Nod except in a handful of places. but pushed back Nod, all over the world. Removed multiple warlords. And, overwhelmingly, won the war so hard that it came to an end when the remaining nod warlords threatened mututally assured destruction if GDI pushed further.

And the idea that GDi is fighting with one hand behind its back. I want to stress this. The caravanserai? Came to us, cap in hand, telling us that we were killing unarmed convoys of refugees and pilgrims and to please stop. Precisely because, GDI was busy ion cannoning any nod vehicles that stepped out from under an Ion shield.

So the war was ended, the remaining warlords were left in place, and a ceasefire of sorts was formed. At least with most nod. But, the nuclear shah decided to keep making threats. GDI wanted/wants karachi still. So they went to some major warlords to get 'permission' for the karachi corridor.

But like. As the update notes. Not every warlord agreed to just hang Al-Isfahani out to dry.

The truce was broadly speaking. "Don't attack us and we won't nuke you." GDI attacked Nod, nod nuked GDI. And not even as hard as they could have. This was a reminder, so that GDI doesn't take the karachi corridor and start thinking they can 'just' clean up other warlords too one by one.

Beyond that? In the update itself. it's more than just bad stuff happening. We have GDI infiltrators taking down a nod sub. GDI is pushing into and is expected to win in karachi. And the Forgotten explicitly note that the Red Zone belongs to them, not nod.

Let's put this thing into context. GDI has absolutely dominated Nod, they won the third tib war, they won the peace after the third tib war, they've further weakened and tore into nod in multiple conflicts since. GDI is even trading with warlords who can't or won't attack GDI and has diplomatic relations with nod trying to be peaceful. But the point is that GDI is crushing it. So Nod stands down asks for their current territory to be respected. GDI agrees. GDI then goes back on its word and takes down another warlord.

And, these nuclear strikes, they're not intended to be the start of a major war with GDI, otherwise we'd see a lot more. They're not even trying to 'save' Al isfahani otherwise the nukes would have gone harder.

All it is. Is Nod giving the reminder that they still have those nukes. And so, we should leave them alone.
 
And the idea that GDi is fighting with one hand behind its back.

It got mentioned earlier that GDI avoided attacking NOD's stuff in their Cyan Zone. GDI holds back on attacking things like NOD's biological terror minion facilities that kill lots of GDI people while NOD does not show the same courtesy.

Drop a few nukes on the NOD terrorists industry in their Cyan Zone would be retaliation we should commit too.
 
It got mentioned earlier that GDI avoided attacking NOD's stuff in their Cyan Zone. GDI holds back on attacking things like NOD's biological terror minion facilities that kill lots of GDI people while NOD does not show the same courtesy.

Drop a few nukes on the NOD terrorists industry in their Cyan Zone would be retaliation we should commit too.
You can stop with that nuke talk or leave. We are never using nukes. End of discussion.
 
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