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Awesome.
An Extra Primarch
- Thread starter ilbgar123
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@ilbgar123 question, would there be any difference between an order Crystal and one that embodies the concept of law, a law crystal, or would they be the same thing?
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Yes. Order is similar to Law, but recognizes that without chaos, there is nothing to balance out order, and True chaos will reign. Of course, high-end Order crystals will have effects similar to middling Law Crystals, since it's still on the orderly side of things.
I don't know why, but I feel like Professor Farnsworth was saying that.
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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE, YOUR ALL GOING TO DIE!
Well that just made crystal tiers a very efficient stuffing for all futre votes then. Sure we have thing' we have to max out like material sciences or ship architecture but any excess should go into crystal/runes for improved psyker checks... that counts also for psyker invention actions also guys. So no more soul stone or soul robot research until we get a few dozen more level 10 crystals.
It' the other way around I'm afraid, unless you want the blue freak to define the Crystal God making thir ten crystals needs to be one of our priorities.
Sir LagsAlot
Yandere Dice Magnet
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huh would this be the exact same calc to be applied to crystal upgrades? just checking.
look at the communication ones
This is not an immediate priority. We have 10 years for crystal God worry. Other priorities have 2 years. Can you at least see that much or will you just pretend otherwise?
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Wait a minute, was that supposed to be upgrading Runic Arrangement and the crystals, or just the crystals? Now I'm confused.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
No, it was turn 20 unless Tzeentch got lucky before Tzeentch got a speed boost this turn and that number can go down at any time.
I think.
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Lone Courier 6
Devilish Fool
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then you're going to want to talk to the emperor about creating a crystal god.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Yes, I already asked the GM if we could spend an action on the Big E SL talking about this stuff before we finish planning the rest of the turn, GM said yes.
All we have to do is vote for it and we'll talk to him before anything else is finalized.
Ship Designing: Dreadnought Models (Canon)(+10 to roll of your choice)
ExNihilo
SPACE!
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Extracts from a cooperative project between the Scientific Enterprise and the Bastion Space Navy, on new ship design possibilities.
Section: Capital and Supercapital vessels. (Cruiser and Escort models come later if this is positively received)
Model Blitz:
-Sometimes, we need fleet projection somewhere, and we need it there yesterday. Starting with the hull of a dreadnaught, we began stripping away parts that weighed it down and adding speed boosting measures. Armor was halved, the big capital-grade guns were cut out, and the overall silhouette of the vessel was reduced in length by 23%. The structure was designed to be as integrated with runes as possible, so more runes of speed and warp resistance could be added, increasing effective superluminal flight speed by making warp travel faster and safer. Though not as powerful as a full dreadnaught, it is projected to still go toe-to-toe with fleets of smaller vessels, at least until reinforcements can arrive.
Model Bulwark:
-The opposite approach was taken when designing Bulwark. Designed around holding a point, designs were taken from defense platforms when modeling this dreadnaught variant. Big guns were replaced with even more point defense. Armor thickness itself was only increased by 12%, but the superstructure was reinforced greatly to support heavier impacts. The main generator was removed, replaced by five smaller ones, increasing power output by 35% and reducing single-point of error, at the cost of taking up more room. This power allows for significantly improved void shielding, increasing survivability significantly. Its silhouette was decreased in length by 3%, however, it outmasses a standard dreadnaught by 27%. It is projected to be able to fight three or more dreadnaughts standard dreadnaughts at once. A stalling fight, but an even one, neither side taking significant damage.
Model Gandiva:
-Though it has the outward appearance of a thinner dreadnaught hull, it isn't actually one. No real offensive weaponry, minimal shielding, relatively (¾ dreadnaught) thin armor, and even worse maneuverability than the Bulwark model. However, what it does have are twelve efficient fusion reactors, top of the line scanning and targeting equipment, and a railgun. A really big railgun, that goes the entire length of the ship. Designed in response to the mixed successes of the asteroid bombardment of [Redacted], it is a superweapon in the shape of a warship. The reactors charge up the capacitors, one minute twenty for a standard shot, 45 minutes for a max power shot, and release it all at once, throwing a chunk of iron at a significant fraction of C at the target. The standard shot is projected to being useful at static fortification destruction and against pinned capital ships, giving the Gandiva minimal tactical use. Max power is hard to determine, but piercing the crust into the mantle and permanent destabilization of the biosphere are likely outcomes, given that the target in question has said features.
(I'm not entirely happy with this picture, but I had trouble finding a better one.)
Model Keter:
-Though supercapital vessel designs have existed for some time, they were basically scaled up versions of dreadnaughts, and in general, not cost- and manpower- efficient. However, Model Keter allows for a superdreadnought to fill a specialist role that is most effective in a supercapital. Though weaponry and statistics are scaled up versus a standard dreadnaught, they are not proportionally increased to the volume and surface area increases. Instead, the core has been converted to a command and control room, allowing it to function as a fleet command vessel. Featuring massive computers and high-end communications equipment, the High Bridge could turn a mediocre admiral into an effective champion. While present, overarching enemy fleet patterns are easier to spot, enemy stealth is greatly negated, and even ships with damaged main comms can stay in constant contact. Also integrated is a psychic amplifier room, allowing psykers to enhance battle performance, act as miniature warp beacons for navigational enhancement, and potentially boost peri- and precognitive visions, for greater tactical benefit.
Section: Capital and Supercapital vessels. (Cruiser and Escort models come later if this is positively received)
Model Blitz:
-Sometimes, we need fleet projection somewhere, and we need it there yesterday. Starting with the hull of a dreadnaught, we began stripping away parts that weighed it down and adding speed boosting measures. Armor was halved, the big capital-grade guns were cut out, and the overall silhouette of the vessel was reduced in length by 23%. The structure was designed to be as integrated with runes as possible, so more runes of speed and warp resistance could be added, increasing effective superluminal flight speed by making warp travel faster and safer. Though not as powerful as a full dreadnaught, it is projected to still go toe-to-toe with fleets of smaller vessels, at least until reinforcements can arrive.
Model Bulwark:
-The opposite approach was taken when designing Bulwark. Designed around holding a point, designs were taken from defense platforms when modeling this dreadnaught variant. Big guns were replaced with even more point defense. Armor thickness itself was only increased by 12%, but the superstructure was reinforced greatly to support heavier impacts. The main generator was removed, replaced by five smaller ones, increasing power output by 35% and reducing single-point of error, at the cost of taking up more room. This power allows for significantly improved void shielding, increasing survivability significantly. Its silhouette was decreased in length by 3%, however, it outmasses a standard dreadnaught by 27%. It is projected to be able to fight three or more dreadnaughts standard dreadnaughts at once. A stalling fight, but an even one, neither side taking significant damage.
Model Gandiva:
-Though it has the outward appearance of a thinner dreadnaught hull, it isn't actually one. No real offensive weaponry, minimal shielding, relatively (¾ dreadnaught) thin armor, and even worse maneuverability than the Bulwark model. However, what it does have are twelve efficient fusion reactors, top of the line scanning and targeting equipment, and a railgun. A really big railgun, that goes the entire length of the ship. Designed in response to the mixed successes of the asteroid bombardment of [Redacted], it is a superweapon in the shape of a warship. The reactors charge up the capacitors, one minute twenty for a standard shot, 45 minutes for a max power shot, and release it all at once, throwing a chunk of iron at a significant fraction of C at the target. The standard shot is projected to being useful at static fortification destruction and against pinned capital ships, giving the Gandiva minimal tactical use. Max power is hard to determine, but piercing the crust into the mantle and permanent destabilization of the biosphere are likely outcomes, given that the target in question has said features.
(I'm not entirely happy with this picture, but I had trouble finding a better one.)
Model Keter:
-Though supercapital vessel designs have existed for some time, they were basically scaled up versions of dreadnaughts, and in general, not cost- and manpower- efficient. However, Model Keter allows for a superdreadnought to fill a specialist role that is most effective in a supercapital. Though weaponry and statistics are scaled up versus a standard dreadnaught, they are not proportionally increased to the volume and surface area increases. Instead, the core has been converted to a command and control room, allowing it to function as a fleet command vessel. Featuring massive computers and high-end communications equipment, the High Bridge could turn a mediocre admiral into an effective champion. While present, overarching enemy fleet patterns are easier to spot, enemy stealth is greatly negated, and even ships with damaged main comms can stay in constant contact. Also integrated is a psychic amplifier room, allowing psykers to enhance battle performance, act as miniature warp beacons for navigational enhancement, and potentially boost peri- and precognitive visions, for greater tactical benefit.
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*Blinks* huh, I am not sure myself actually
edit: assume crystal for now?
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@ilbgar123 you misspelled designing (designs?) in the threadmark.
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
It goes faster than light without needing to enter the warp?
Oyyy. I am starting to really hate the blasted crystals.
fasquardon
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No? Just faster and safer in the warp. IIRC we added crystals to our ship to do that.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Maybe you should add "in the warp" to the superluminal line then?
Yeah, +1 to what King Arthur said. It wasn't super clear.
fasquardon
ExNihilo
SPACE!
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Fair enough. How does 'effective superluminal speed' sound? Or would faster in the warp be better?
Sir LagsAlot
Yandere Dice Magnet
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tri2's plan just says ([ ] [Invention] Improve Crystal Tiers/Runic Language 1 (x4)) so I would assume he just meant Crystal improvements. Also did I mess something up with the communication Rune calculations?
Also I'm going to get a start on the checks @ilbgar123 wanted done now.
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