An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.6%
  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%
  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 378 44.5%

  • Total voters
    850
Soulstone:

Difficulty Check: Power 125 + Control 100 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 490 = 1 140

Education Skill: Esoteric 200 + Seer 90 = 290

Psyker Skill: Esoteric 200 + Navigator 80 = 280

Invention Skill: Practicality 200 + Industry 10 = 210

Forging Skill: Gear 200 = 200

Education: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Education Skills 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + SLs 50 + Education General 190 = 4 610

Psyker: 1400 Rune of Self + 500 U o A/P P + 500 Soul Surgery Omake + 300 Skill All + 335 Skill Education + 475 Skill Psyker + 75 Perks Level + 2960 Perks General/Advanced + 840 Perks Esoteric + Seer Perks 6040 + Willpower Perks 85 + SLs 3650 + 380 Education + 5000 Runes = 22 540

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 11200 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 28 995

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Combined Check: Education Skill 290 + Psyker Skill 280 + Invention Skill 210 + Forging Skill 200 + Education Check 4 610 + Psyker Check 22 540 + Invention Check 28 995 + Forging Check 6 610 = 63 735 * 4 = 254 940 + 91 200 = 346 140

Also RIP my calculator the thing ran out of batteries to soon. IT WAS TO YOUNG TO DIE DAMN YOU MATH!
 
Last edited:
Psychic Robot:

Difficulty Check: Power 125 + Control 100 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 390 = 990

Psyker Skill: Manipulation 200 + Sorcery 90 = 290

Forging Skill: Gear 200 = 200

Education: Esoteric 200 + Seer 90 = 290

Psyker: 1400 Rune of Self + 500 U o A/P P + 500 Soul Surgery Omake + 300 Skill All + 335 Skill Education + 475 Skill Psyker + 75 Perks Level + 2960 Perks General/Advanced + 840 Perks Esoteric + Seer Perks 6040 + Willpower Perks 85 + SLs 3650 + 380 Education + 5000 Runes = 22 540

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Education: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Education Skills 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + SLs 50 + Education General 190 = 4 610

Combined Check: Psyker Skill 290 + Forging Skill 200 + Education Skill 290 + Psyker Check 22 540 + Forging Check 6 610 + Education Check 4 610 = 34 540 * 4 = 138 160

Done that's the last of the research I'll be compiling it all into an easier to read format in but a moment.
 
Last edited:
ilbgar123 I finished the check. All calculation and bonuses involved are displayed you can even double check everything.

Rune of Self:

Difficulty Reduction: Power 125 + Control 100 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 345 = 995.

Invention Skill: Practical 200 + Industry 10 = 210

Psyker Skill: Esoteric 200 + Navigator 80 = 280

Forging Skill: Gear 200 = 200

Psyker: 500 Rune of Self + 500 U o A/P P + 500 Soul Surgery Omake + 300 Skill All + 335 Skill Education + 475 Skill Psyker + 75 Perks Level + 2960 Perks General/Advanced + 840 Perks Esoteric + Seer Perks 6040 + Willpower Perks 85 + SLs 3650 + 380 Education = 16 640

Invention: Rune of Self 250 + Workshop 1000 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 18 345

Forging: Rune of Self 250 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 160

Combined Check: Invention Skill 210 + Psyker Skill 280 + Forging Skill 200 + Psyker Check 16 640 + Invention Check 18 345 + Forging Check 6 160 = 41 835 * 14 = 585 690 + 19 420 = 605 110.

Also tri2 you overshot the target by over 100k. :rofl:
Personal Workshop:

Difficulty Reduction: Administration 50 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 350 = 825

Invention Skill: Extravagance 200 + Luxury 10 = 210

Forging Skill: Gear 200 = 200

Education Skill: General 200 + Advance 90 = 290

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 1000 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 18 795

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Education: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + SLs 50 + Education General 190 = 4 610

Combined Check: Invention Skill 210 + Forging Skill 200 + Education Skill 290 + Invention Check 18 795 + Forging Check 6 610 + Education Check 4 610 = 30 715 * 16 = 491 440 + 18 020 = 509 460

Also ilbgar123 how do I use/what do I use difficulty reduction checks for again do I like add that the reduction times the number of action taken to the total or something?

Actually I have another question ilbgar123 do you want to up the Rune of Self bonus so that the improved version applies to all invention action after it was researched?
Runic Language:

Difficulty Reduction: Power 125 + Control 100 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 345 = 995.

Invention Skill: Practical 200 + Industry 10 = 210

Psyker Skill: Esoteric 200 + Navigator 80 = 280

Forging Skill: Gear 200 = 200

Psyker: 1400 Rune of Self + 500 U o A/P P + 500 Soul Surgery Omake + 300 Skill All + 335 Skill Education + 475 Skill Psyker + 75 Perks Level + 2960 Perks General/Advanced + 840 Perks Esoteric + Seer Perks 6040 + Willpower Perks 85 + SLs 3650 + 380 Education = 17 540

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 11200 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 28 995

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Combined Check: Invention Skill 210 + Psyker Skill 280 + Forging Skill 200 + Psyker Check 17 540 + Invention Check 28 995 + Forging Check 6 610 = 53 835 * 4 = 215 340

Communication Rune: 215 340 + 27 100 = 242 440

Navigation Rune: 215 340 + 4 330 = 219 670

Organization Rune: 215 340 = 215 340

Order Rune: 215 340 = 215 340

Balance Rune: 215 340 + 430 = 215 770
Ship Scale Weapons:

Difficulty Reduction: Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 265 = 690

Invention Skill: Practicality 200 + Industry 10 = 210

Forging Skill: Weapon 200 = 200

Electronics Skill: Wiring 120 = 120

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 11200 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 28 995

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Electronics: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Electronics Skill 150 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 13 395

Combined Check: Invention Skill 210 + Forging Skill 200 + Electronics Skill 120 + Invention Check 28 995 + Forging Check 6 610 + Electronics Check 13 395 = 49 530 * 4 = 198 120

ilbgar123 I'm assuming this would involve all the same checks as ship scale plasma gun and ship scale lasers correct?
Ork Biology:

Difficulty Reduction: Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 340 = 715

Education Skill: General 200 + Advanced 90 = 290

Education Skill: Esoteric 200 + Navigator 80 = 280

Medicine Skill: Surgery 105 = 105

Education: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Education Skills 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + SLs 50 + Education General 190 = 4 610 * 2 = 9 220

Medicine: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Medicine Skills 150 + Education Skills 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Perks Elemental 2 435 + Biomancy Perks 1 590 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + SLs 50 + Education General 190 = 13 985

Bonus: Ork Extermination 1500

Combined Check: Education Skill 290 + Education Skill 280 + Medicine Skill 105 + Education Check 4 610 + Education Check 4 610 + Medicine Check 13 985 + Bonus 1500= 25 380 * 2 = 50 760
Ship Design:

Difficulty Check: Administration 50 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 265 = 740

Forging Skill: Armour 200 = 200

Electronics Skill: Wiring 120 = 120

Invention Skill: Necessities 200 + Military 10 = 210

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Electronics: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Electronics Skill 150 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 13 395

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 11200 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 28 995

Combined Check: Forging Skill 200 + Electronics Skill 120 + Invention Skill 210 + Forging Check 6 610 + Electronics Check 13 395 + Invention Check 28 995 = 49 530 * 2 = 99 060 + 45 800 = 144 860

We really need to max out Ship Design next turn along side a bunch of Runes.
Soulstone:

Difficulty Check: Power 125 + Control 100 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 490 = 1 140

Education Skill: Esoteric 200 + Seer 90 = 290

Psyker Skill: Esoteric 200 + Navigator 80 = 280

Invention Skill: Practicality 200 + Industry 10 = 210

Forging Skill: Gear 200 = 200

Education: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Education Skills 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + SLs 50 + Education General 190 = 4 610

Psyker: 1400 Rune of Self + 500 U o A/P P + 500 Soul Surgery Omake + 300 Skill All + 335 Skill Education + 475 Skill Psyker + 75 Perks Level + 2960 Perks General/Advanced + 840 Perks Esoteric + Seer Perks 6040 + Willpower Perks 85 + SLs 3650 + 380 Education + 5000 Runes = 22 540

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 11200 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 28 995

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Combined Check: Education Skill 290 + Psyker Skill 280 + Invention Skill 210 + Forging Skill 200 + Education Check 4 610 + Psyker Check 22 540 + Invention Check 28 995 + Forging Check 6 610 = 63 735 * 4 = 254 940 + 91 200 = 346 140

Also RIP my calculator the thing ran out of batteries to soon. IT WAS TO YOUNG TO DIE DAMN YOU MATH!
Psychic Robot:

Difficulty Check: Power 125 + Control 100 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 390 = 990

Psyker Skill: Manipulation 200 + Sorcery 90 = 290

Forging Skill: Gear 200 = 200

Education: Esoteric 200 + Seer 90 = 290

Psyker: 1400 Rune of Self + 500 U o A/P P + 500 Soul Surgery Omake + 300 Skill All + 335 Skill Education + 475 Skill Psyker + 75 Perks Level + 2960 Perks General/Advanced + 840 Perks Esoteric + Seer Perks 6040 + Willpower Perks 85 + SLs 3650 + 380 Education + 5000 Runes = 22 540

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Education: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Education Skills 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + SLs 50 + Education General 190 = 4 610

Combined Check: Psyker Skill 290 + Forging Skill 200 + Education Skill 290 + Psyker Check 22 540 + Forging Check 6 610 + Education Check 4 610 = 34 540 * 4 = 138 160

Done that's the last of the research I'll be compiling it all into an easier to read format in but a moment.
Rune of Self: 605 110

Personal Workshop: 509 460

Runic Language: 215 340
- Communication Rune: 242 440
- Navigation Rune: 219 670
- Organization Rune: 215 340
- Order Rune: 215 340
- Balance Rune: 215 770

Ship Scale Weaponry: 198 120

Ork Biology: 50 760

Ship Design: 144 860

Soulstone: 346 140

Psychic Robot: 138 160
 
Last edited:
I just watched the Black Panther movie and now I kinda want to make a world based off of Wakanda.

Thought about this a bit and have come up with a bit of an idea for how it goes, there are 5 separate polities spread about equidistant along the equator each worshipping a different animal totem and thus having different physical and technological traits even if they are all on the same tech level.

There is also an extremely large amount of Vibrainium threaded throughout their planet as well with it gathering up into giant mountain sized deposits around which the polities capital cities were built.
 
Thanks. You get a +10 to a roll of your choice for your hard work.
No problem I like the quest that's enough of a reason to do this for me. Although the bonus doesn't hurt. :grin:

Now I just need to go write it down some where so I don't forget about it.

Alright I'm going to go grab a drink of water and pass out some where. So see ya.

EDIT: With the amount of hugs I'm getting I wouldn't be surprised if some one held a funeral for my calculator at this point. :rofl:
 
Last edited:
No problem I like the quest that's enough of a reason to do this for me. Although the bonus doesn't hurt. :grin:

Now I just need to go write it down some where so I don't forget about it.

Alright I'm going to go grab a drink of water and pass out some where. So see ya.

EDIT: With the amount of hugs I'm getting I wouldn't be surprised if some one held an obituary for my calculator at this point. :rofl:

Say, Combat, Tactics, Evasion, Speech and Perception need their bonuses recalculated, since I don't quite trust myself with how every single one of the other bonuses have been off thus far.
 
No problem I like the quest that's enough of a reason to do this for me. Although the bonus doesn't hurt. :grin:

Now I just need to go write it down some where so I don't forget about it.

Alright I'm going to go grab a drink of water and pass out some where. So see ya.

EDIT: With the amount of hugs I'm getting I wouldn't be surprised if some one held a funeral for my calculator at this point. :rofl:
If you post a link of your calculator in the thread I'm pretty sure someone is going to photoshop a funeral for it.
 
Say, Combat, Tactics, Evasion, Speech and Perception need their bonuses recalculated, since I don't quite trust myself with how every single one of the other bonuses have been off thus far.
I'll do it tomorrow if you can afford to put it off, I'm going to bed in the next 15 minutes so I don't think I can really do it now. Actually if you want I'll recalculate the rest of the bonuses tomorrow as well.

If you post a link of your calculator in the thread I'm pretty sure someone is going to photoshop a funeral for it.
I would post a picture of my calculator but you can get my location from the image so that's a no go. Instead have a stock image of my calculator I found on the internet. :D
 
Last edited:
this is awesome...congrats Sir for your hard work ethic...perhaps we could have a short little side along with the crazy mad genius somehow getting loose and going on a rampage until he's returned back into his little mad scientist hole by local forces as he somehow upgrades Sera's workshop and stuff?
 
Tenth-tier Organization Runes. These Runes are potent enough to make organizations run like well-oiled machines. +250 to military rolls. 250% bonus to industry. +250 to morale rolls. +1000 to Psyker Checks.

Tenth-tier Order Runes. These Runes feel like Blanks, and have similar effects. +250 to Witch Hunter and related organizations rolls to handle and/or clean up after cult activity. +1000 to Psyker Checks.
New bonuses.

Also ilbgar123 do you want me to redo the Psyker checks for the projects after Runic Language?
 
Last edited:
Back
Top