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An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.6%

  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%

  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 378 44.5%
  • Total voters
    850
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Personal Workshop:

Difficulty Reduction: Administration 50 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 350 = 825

Invention Skill: Extravagance 200 + Luxury 10 = 210

Forging Skill: Gear 200 = 200

Education Skill: General 200 + Advance 90 = 290

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 1000 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 18 795

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Education: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + SLs 50 + Education General 190 = 4 610

Combined Check: Invention Skill 210 + Forging Skill 200 + Education Skill 290 + Invention Check 18 795 + Forging Check 6 610 + Education Check 4 610 = 30 715 * 16 = 491 440 + 18 020 = 509 460

Also ilbgar123 how do I use/what do I use difficulty reduction checks for again do I like add that the reduction times the number of action taken to the total or something?

Actually I have another question ilbgar123 do you want to up the Rune of Self bonus so that the improved version applies to all invention action after it was researched?
 
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Number of actions doesn't matter. It's Level Perk reductions, then 25 per 10 of relevant Stat Check, and 5 per 10 of Skill Check.

Rune of Self's general bonus upgraded to 700, and the Psyker bonus to 1400. Applies to each skill individually in Combined Score Checks.
 
Runic Language:

Difficulty Reduction: Power 125 + Control 100 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 345 = 995.

Invention Skill: Practical 200 + Industry 10 = 210

Psyker Skill: Esoteric 200 + Navigator 80 = 280

Forging Skill: Gear 200 = 200

Psyker: 1400 Rune of Self + 500 U o A/P P + 500 Soul Surgery Omake + 300 Skill All + 335 Skill Education + 475 Skill Psyker + 75 Perks Level + 2960 Perks General/Advanced + 840 Perks Esoteric + Seer Perks 6040 + Willpower Perks 85 + SLs 3650 + 380 Education = 17 540

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 11200 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 28 995

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Combined Check: Invention Skill 210 + Psyker Skill 280 + Forging Skill 200 + Psyker Check 17 540 + Invention Check 28 995 + Forging Check 6 610 = 53 835 * 4 = 215 340

Communication Rune: 215 340 + 27 100 = 242 440

Navigation Rune: 215 340 + 4 330 = 219 670

Organization Rune: 215 340 = 215 340

Order Rune: 215 340 = 215 340

Balance Rune: 215 340 + 430 = 215 770
 
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ilbgar123 said:
Number of actions doesn't matter. It's Level Perk reductions, then 25 per 10 of relevant Stat Check, and 5 per 10 of Skill Check.

Rune of Self's general bonus upgraded to 700, and the Psyker bonus to 1400. Applies to each skill individually in Combined Score Checks.
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Thank for the info on the Rune of Self. On the Difficulty reduction thing I wasn't asking how to calculate it I was asking what to do with it after I've calculated it because I have no idea where to stick it in the equation so, so far all it's done is sit there and look pretty.
 
Sir LagsAlot said:
Runic Language:

Difficulty Reduction: Power 125 + Control 100 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 345 = 995.

Invention Skill: Practical 200 + Industry 10 = 210

Psyker Skill: Esoteric 200 + Navigator 80 = 280

Forging Skill: Gear 200 = 200

Psyker: 500 Rune of Self + 500 U o A/P P + 500 Soul Surgery Omake + 300 Skill All + 335 Skill Education + 475 Skill Psyker + 75 Perks Level + 2960 Perks General/Advanced + 840 Perks Esoteric + Seer Perks 6040 + Willpower Perks 85 + SLs 3650 + 380 Education = 16 640

Invention: Rune of Self 250 + Workshop 1000 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 18 345

Forging: Rune of Self 250 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 160

Combined Check: Invention Skill 210 + Psyker Skill 280 + Forging Skill 200 + Psyker Check 16 640 + Invention Check 18 345 + Forging Check 6 160 = 41 835 * 4 = 167 340

Communication Rune: 167 340 + 27 100 = 194 440

Navigation Rune: 167 340 + 4 330 = 171 673

Organization Rune: 167 340 = 167 340

Order Rune: 167 340 = 167 340

Balance Rune: @ilbgar123 where's the current progress on Balance Runes?
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Pretty sure they're still at one, also, did you notice my response to the Workshop post.
 
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30K Imperial Guard (distinct from the Solar Auxiliary which has 10000 total bonus) gets 7500. 40K Imperial Guard gets 5000. PDF varies heavily. Sometimes it's less than a thousand, sometimes it's almost as good as Imperial Guard.
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Huh, thought that the 30K guards would have more bonuses due to the Emperor being able to recreate DAoT weapons once he got the AdMech allied with him giving him the tools to make them.
 
ilbgar123 said:
Pretty sure they're still at one, also, did you notice my response to the Workshop post.
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It takes a bit of time to work through all the calculations to make sure there correct I've made all the corrections now btw.
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It reduced the Check necessary to get to the next rank.
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Alright so I shouldn't bother with it then got it.

Also I'm still waiting on that confirmation on how far along we are with Balance Runes so that I can finish the calculation for it, it's the only Rune I'm not finished.

EDIT: Never mind turns out we haven't worked on it since Turn 12 and as such it has like 430 points.
 
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Ship Scale Weapons:

Difficulty Reduction: Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 265 = 690

Invention Skill: Practicality 200 + Industry 10 = 210

Forging Skill: Weapon 200 = 200

Electronics Skill: Wiring 120 = 120

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 11200 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 28 995

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Electronics: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Electronics Skill 150 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 13 395

Combined Check: Invention Skill 210 + Forging Skill 200 + Electronics Skill 120 + Invention Check 28 995 + Forging Check 6 610 + Electronics Check 13 395 = 49 530 * 4 = 198 120

ilbgar123 I'm assuming this would involve all the same checks as ship scale plasma gun and ship scale lasers correct?
 
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Rune of Self: Amazing. You understand yourself very well, which has quite a few benefits. +1400 to Psyker Checks from self-understanding. +700 to all other Checks. Personal gear enhanced with Rune of Self effectively immune to corruption. Your weapon, for example, would have to be stuffed full of Daemons before it would harm you.
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updated rune of Self.
 
Sir LagsAlot said:
Ship Scale Weapons:

Difficulty Reduction: Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 265 = 690

Invention Skill: Practicality 200 + Industry 10 = 210

Forging Skill: Weapon 200 = 200

Electronics Skill: Wiring 120 = 120

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 1000 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 18 795

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Electronics: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Electronics Skill 150 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 13 395

Combined Check: Invention Skill 210 + Forging Skill 200 + Electronics Skill 120 + Invention Check 18 795 + Forging Check 6 610 + Electronics Check 13 395 = 39 330 * 4 = 157 320

ilbgar123 I'm assuming this would involve all the same checks as ship scale plasma gun and ship scale lasers correct?
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Yes. Also, runic language and onward gets a 11200 bonus to Invention actions from Workshop.

Edit: Meant 11200.
 
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Ork Biology:

Difficulty Reduction: Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 340 = 715

Education Skill: General 200 + Advanced 90 = 290

Education Skill: Esoteric 200 + Navigator 80 = 280

Medicine Skill: Surgery 105 = 105

Education: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Education Skills 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + SLs 50 + Education General 190 = 4 610 * 2 = 9 220

Medicine: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Medicine Skills 150 + Education Skills 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Perks Elemental 2 435 + Biomancy Perks 1 590 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + SLs 50 + Education General 190 = 13 985

Bonus: Ork Extermination 1500

Combined Check: Education Skill 290 + Education Skill 280 + Medicine Skill 105 + Education Check 4 610 + Education Check 4 610 + Medicine Check 13 985 + Bonus 1500= 25 380 * 2 = 50 760
 
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Oh, and remember the +1500 from the Ork extermination action at the beginning of the turn, right at the end of the addition leading up to the multiplication by number of actions.
 
Ship Design:

Difficulty Check: Administration 50 + Learning 75 + Leveling Perks 300 + SLs 50 + Skills 265 = 740

Forging Skill: Armour 200 = 200

Electronics Skill: Wiring 120 = 120

Invention Skill: Necessities 200 + Military 10 = 210

Forging: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Forging Skill 500 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + Gear Perks 500 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 6 610

Electronics: Rune of Self 700 + All Skills 300 + Electronics Skill 150 + Education Skill 335 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 100 + Education General 190 = 13 395

Invention: Rune of Self 700 + Workshop 11200 + All Skills 300 + Education Skill 335 + Invention Skill 500 + Level Perks 75 + General/Advanced Perks 2960 + Techno Perks 2435 + Sorcery Perks 5200 + Necessity Perks 950 + SLs 3650 + Education General 190 + Exotic Item Bonus 500 = 28 995

Combined Check: Forging Skill 200 + Electronics Skill 120 + Invention Skill 210 + Forging Check 6 610 + Electronics Check 13 395 + Invention Check 28 995 = 49 530 * 2 = 99 060 + 45 800 = 144 860

We really need to max out Ship Design next turn along side a bunch of Runes.
 
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