An Extra Primarch

[cheesyme]

some questions for you @ilbgar123, not sure if they've been asked before as I'm new and have only been reading the thread itself since the last update, I was in reader mode to catch up.
1) the 30K IG bonus of 7500, and the 40K IG bonus of 5000 was for a full regiment right?
2) how many regiments of our army can we field?
3) what would a space marine legion/company get in bonuses? Ultramarines bonus preferably they are the standard space marine basically, all other legions get unique things/traits.
4) how do our ships compare to a great crusade ship of the same class/role?
5) can we take an action to integrate say, delta and below psykers into our army? We should have enough of those.

 

[ilbgar123]

some questions for you @ilbgar123, not sure if they've been asked before as I'm new and have only been reading the thread itself since the last update, I was in reader mode to catch up.
1) the 30K IG bonus of 7500, and the 40K IG bonus of 5000 was for a full regiment right?
2) how many regiments of our army can we field?
3) what would a space marine legion/company get in bonuses? Ultramarines bonus preferably they are the standard space marine basically, all other legions get unique things/traits.
4) how do our ships compare to a great crusade ship of the same class/role?
5) can we take an action to integrate say, delta and below psykers into our army? We should have enough of those.

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1A. That's right.
2A. About 100 per billion people, so something on the order of 200000.
3A. 75000 per Legion now. 50000 per Legion in canonical 40K. Significantly higher with their Primarch on the field.
4A. Inferior by a fairly wide margin. Emps has access to DAoT tech you simply don't have.
5A. Well, I think so.

 

[cheesyme]

1A. That's right.
2A. About 100 per billion people, so something on the order of 200000.
3A. 75000 per Legion now. 50000 per Legion in canonical 40K. Significantly higher with their Primarch on the field.
4A. Inferior by a fairly wide margin. Emps has access to DAoT tech you simply don't have.
5A. Well, I think so.

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1B) K
2B) nifty
3B) is that if the entire legion is at one battlefield? for example, a planetary battle between a legion and some number of regiments, would the space marines get that on every battlefield each, or would the bonus be split between battlefields?
4B) kinda to be expected, but oh well. That just means things get insane once the emp gets out of Sol and we combine his tech with our runes and psykers.
5B) Awesome, that could be useful, even if those psykers are weak that should grant a piss ton of difficult to fight options to the army.
6) Are the psykers of Remnant actually more resistant to chaos, or are the grimm sheltering them from daemons?
7) can we research how the grimm and their power growth over time works, so as to implement it so that we continue growing in power forever rather than stopping on turn 18 I think it was?
8) if the psykers of Remnant are more resistant to chaos, can we figure out how it works (hopefully genetically) and seed it throughout our populace/army/eventual legion?

And yes, I realize the most likely answer to the last 3 is try it and find out.

 

[King Arthur]

- Crystals/Runes of Light, Gravity, Fire, Resilience, Perseverance, Willpower.

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Don't forget the other elements, Water and Earth and Ice and Wind. We know that that's a good combo for World Binding.

No, you'd need a Psyker 1000000 Check to do that.

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Goal acquired.

8) if the psykers of Remnant are more resistant to chaos, can we figure out how it works (hopefully genetically) and seed it throughout our populace/army/eventual legion?

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My extremely tentative plan was to just start seeding them throughout our other planets and highly incentivize them having a ton of kids, but yeah, researching them is definitely a thing to do.

 

[ilbgar123]

1B) K
2B) nifty
3B) is that if the entire legion is at one battlefield? for example, a planetary battle between a legion and some number of regiments, would the space marines get that on every battlefield each, or would the bonus be split between battlefields?
4B) kinda to be expected, but oh well. That just means things get insane once the emp gets out of Sol and we combine his tech with our runes and psykers.
5B) Awesome, that could be useful, even if those psykers are weak that should grant a piss ton of difficult to fight options to the army.
6) Are the psykers of Remnant actually more resistant to chaos, or are the grimm sheltering them from daemons?
7) can we research how the grimm and their power growth over time works, so as to implement it so that we continue growing in power forever rather than stopping on turn 18 I think it was?
8) if the psykers of Remnant are more resistant to chaos, can we figure out how it works (hopefully genetically) and seed it throughout our populace/army/eventual legion?

And yes, I realize the most likely answer to the last 3 is try it and find out.

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3B A. Bonus applies if the Legion is all on the same planet, it's divided up if they're divided between different planets. This can get complicated with multiple planets in the same system, or the moons of a planet.

6A. Grimm trade memetic bullshit for much, much less dependence on the Warp.

7A. Uh, the Grimm's power growth has to due with their fundamental nature.

8A. Remnant psykers are more resistant than the average psyker, but that's because there's a lot less of their souls in the Warp compared to most psykers. This comes at the price of nearly no powers beyond mostly passive self-reinforcement (though that's pretty potent by most standards, especially with high-end Hunters/Huntresses) save for their Semblance, which could be considered the purest expression of their souls, hence why they have them. For instance, Remnant psykers have nearly no precogs, to the point where it's nearly unheard of, save for a few historical figures.

 

[ilbgar123]

Don't forget the other elements, Water and Earth and Ice. We know that that's a good combo for World Binding.

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You forgot Wind.

 

[The Bird]

What, no love for Fire?

 

[Tzaphquiel]

Hm, I wonder what the Craftworld Eldar would think of the Level 10 Elemental Crystals. It would greatly accelerate terraforming, and considering how much time was invested in creating the Maiden Worlds, well, if they can find time later, it could be an opportunity to swiftly create more Maiden Worlds.

 

[King Arthur]

You forgot Wind.

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Thank you.

8A. Remnant psykers are more resistant than the average psyker, but that's because there's a lot less of their souls in the Warp compared to most psykers. This comes at the price of nearly no powers beyond mostly passive self-reinforcement (though that's pretty potent by most standards, especially with high-end Hunters/Huntresses) save for their Semblance, which could be considered the purest expression of their souls, hence why they have them. For instance, Remnant psykers have nearly no precogs, to the point where it's nearly unheard of, save for a few historical figures.

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Again, part of me seriously wants to replace a majority of regular humans with Remnant humans.

What, no love for Fire?

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Fire was one of the ones the person I quoted had already listed.

 

[zxzx24]

What, no love for Fire?

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What about heart?

 

[King Arthur]

What about heart?

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Was also in the post I quoted, though admittedly I didn't quote that part.

 

[ilbgar123]

Heart is much more individual than almost any of the others, to the point where even the Tenth-tier is unlikely to affect an area larger than a city block. However, it would greatly increase the awareness of a planet in possession of a Planet-mind. Interestingly, Terra, by virtue of being the homeworld of one of the most populous races in the galaxy, has gained a certain something in the Warp, even though most of humanity has little if any recollection of Terra.

 

[Entropy Engineer]

Thank you.



Again, part of me seriously wants to replace a majority of regular humans with Remnant humans.



Fire was one of the ones the person I quoted had already listed.

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Wait can we still upgrade Remnant physkers to regular powerful psykers? Because of that's the case we should put an effort of getting as many people with Aura as possible due to aura being more stable and then when we need more psykers just "upgrade" them to what we usually use as we need them.

 

[horus]

if 49 350 was the check for grade 7 Time, Wisdom, Concealment, Purity, Communication and Willpower [with -650 to Check difficult] then is it the same for most runes?
215 770 per Invention action point will go a long way toward 10 grade 10 runes, especially if we got 5 already.

 

[King Arthur]

Wait can we still upgrade Remnant physkers to regular powerful psykers? Because of that's the case we should put an effort of getting as many people with Aura as possible due to aura being more stable and then when we need more psykers just "upgrade" them to what we usually use as we need them.

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I don't think so, I think the GM said it's like a different school of Psykers, they can learn regular stuff and regular Psykers can learn their stuff but neither will be as good at it as the other is?

I don't want to replace all humans with Remanant Humans, just most. Like, my goal is 90% of humans are Remnant Humans and 10% more traditional Psykers, maybe a few Blanks sprinkled in.

 

[zxzx24]

It remembers us. We remember it.

Warp science 101.

Probably.

(I am not actually a warp scientist)

(Seriously though, there are probably fossil records of humanity by now.)

 

[ilbgar123]

I don't think so, I think the GM said it's like a different school of Psykers, they can learn regular stuff and regular Psykers can learn their stuff but neither will be as good at it as the other is?

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Basically this. Remnant psykers can use more esoteric powers, and do, but they almost always need to be their Semblance if they want to be more than mediocre at it, barring the absolute pinnacle psykers. Similarly, non-Remnant psykers have a lot more trouble with the effects of Aura, and their soul is a lot more spread out, so their Semblance doesn't usually manifest. Higher grades of psyker tend to have proportionately spread out souls (hence the high vulnerability of high-end psykers) so they don't manifest Semblances either.

 

[Sir LagsAlot]

I don't think so, I think the GM said it's like a different school of Psykers, they can learn regular stuff and regular Psykers can learn their stuff but neither will be as good at it as the other is?

I don't want to replace all humans with Remanant Humans, just most. Like, my goal is 90% of humans are Remnant Humans, 9.5 percent are traditional Psyker, and .5 percent are Banks.

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Why would we have any Remnant Psykers their so much less powerful and adaptable I mean normal Psykers can see the future and blow up planets with their minds well Remnant Psyker can what kick things harder? Also Blanks are an even worse choice then Remnant Psyker their resistant to the Warp (meaning every Psyker will want to kill them there is a good reason the average Blank gets their head bashed in by their mother during infancy) but they lose so much in the trade for this ability that it's flat out just not worth it most of the time.

 

[zxzx24]

Basically this. Remnant psykers can use more esoteric powers, and do, but they almost always need to be their Semblance if they want to be more than mediocre at it, barring the absolute pinnacle psykers. Similarly, non-Remnant psykers have a lot more trouble with the effects of Aura, and their soul is a lot more spread out, so their Semblance doesn't usually manifest. Higher grades of psyker tend to have proportionately spread out souls (hence the high vulnerability of high-end psykers) so they don't manifest Semblances either.

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I suppose the next logical question would be. Could serras learn this? And what would her Semblance be?

Changing the shape of your soul-warp-thing into a more compact form could have... uses.

 

[King Arthur]

No, you'd need a Psyker 1000000 Check to do that.

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What kind of check would we need to throw a star like a space shuriken/shoot it like a bullet from a gun?

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Black Hole?

 

[ilbgar123]

What kind of check would we need to throw a star like a space shuriken/shoot it like a bullet from a gun?

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Black Hole?

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2500000 would do it. There's a point where the C'Tan simply have an advantage by virtue of pure efficiency and ability to actually reach that kind of Materium manipulation. I've always felt that psykers were most effective at countering other psychic phenomena, and serving as force multipliers.

 

[zxzx24]

Why would we have any Remnant Psykers their so much less powerful and adaptable I mean normal Psykers can see the future and blow up planets with their minds well Remnant Psyker can what kick things harder? Also Blanks are an even worse choice then Remnant Psyker their resistant to the Warp (meaning every Psyker will want to kill them there is a good reason the average Blank gets their head bashed in by their mother during infancy) but they lose so much in the trade for this ability that it's flat out just not worth it most of the time.

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Remanent psykers can control time. Ozpin himself is also immortal, and can give other people super powers.

 

[King Arthur]

Why would we have any Remnant Psykers their so much less powerful and adaptable I mean normal Psykers can see the future and blow up planets with their minds well Remnant Psyker can what kick things harder? Also Blanks are an even worse choice then Remnant Psyker their resistant to the Warp (meaning every Psyker will want to kill them there is a good reason the average Blank gets their head bashed in by their mother during infancy) but they lose so much in the trade for this ability that it's flat out just not worth it most of the time.

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Their a lot more stable then regular Psykers and resistant to Warp/Daemon possession/corruption and better at melee/physically powerful/more durable, so they make for a better population base while traditional Psykers are better Elites.

I mostly removed the Blank thing.

2500000 would do it. There's a point where the C'Tan simply have an advantage by virtue of pure efficiency and ability to actually reach that kind of Materium manipulation. I've always felt that psykers were most effective at countering other psychic phenomena, and serving as force multipliers.

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Annnnd goal acquired.

 

[Sir LagsAlot]

Remanent psykers can control time. Ozpin himself is also immortal, and can give other people super powers.

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Again not all things are imported from a setting. Also you speak of these things as if normal Psykers can't do the same things and even better in most situations

Their a lot more stable then regular Psykers and resistant to Warp/Daemon possession/corruption and better at melee/physically powerful/more durable, so they make for a better population base while traditional Psykers are better Elites.

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We can make normal Psykers more stable and resistant to Daemons using technology and Psyker techniques and it's hard to argue that every member of the PDF being able to blow up 50 Orks with their mind is worse then them trying to power up their physical abilities to get into melee range with species that stomp on Humans physically and as such won't be that big of an advantage.

 

[Redknight]

@ilbgar123 woukd be possible to research some type of bolster like gun next turn or is that to meta?