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An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.5%

  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%

  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 379 44.5%
  • Total voters
    851
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ilbgar123 said:
Maybe if every planet in the galaxy had Star Trek levels of peace and prosperity, and the average planet had a trillion, and there were no major catastrophies for the next thousand years. That might work.
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Or move to a new galaxy, have always been curious how far the Warp extends into the material verse.

Is it only active in this galaxy since it was the one where the Old Ones, Necron, Eldar, Krok, etc fought each other for such a long time?
 
I've already given a potential solution for this honestly, only thing is making sure that it reaches enough planets and making sure Chaos doesn't kill everyone.

My plan, for those who can't recall, is to invent something that interferes with the flow of energy in a given territory and stops it from going from the material world to Chaos, ideally sending the energy elsewhere like, say, to us or to a potential Death God that we might potentially want to create. Either make the range big enough or create enough of these so that the area covers the entire planet, and then copy this method on every planet.

It should be feasible. At the very least I'm pretty sure the Necrons created something similar, although I think they blocked energy from coming in not going out.
 
Cults are almost always going to do stupid things that get people killed and/or disgust people who aren't insane. Legitimizing that, or even appearing to, will not go over well.
 
Massgamer said:
Or move to a new galaxy, have always been curious how far the Warp extends into the material verse.

Is it only active in this galaxy since it was the one where the Old Ones, Necron, Eldar, Krok, etc fought each other for such a long time?
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I once had an idea for a Warhammer/Lilo and Stitch crossover, where the point of divergence was that when the Krorks started kicking their shit in, the Old Ones collectively went 'Screw this! We're outta here!' and, after helping the Eldar smash the Krorks faces in to the point they became the Orks, screwed off to try again with other galaxies.
 
Well, cult might be a strong word, but yeah. Something like the Imperial Cult likely wouldn't stick the same if you tried to start it yourself.
 
ilbgar123 said:
I once had an idea for a Warhammer/Lilo and Stitch crossover, where the point of divergence was that when the Krorks started kicking their shit in, the Old Ones collectively went 'Screw this! We're outta here!' and, after helping the Eldar smash the Krorks faces in to the point they became the Orks, screwed off to try again with other galaxies.
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That does sound like them and think it would be pretty cool.
 
ilbgar123 said:
I once had an idea for a Warhammer/Lilo and Stitch crossover, where the point of divergence was that when the Krorks started kicking their shit in, the Old Ones collectively went 'Screw this! We're outta here!' and, after helping the Eldar smash the Krorks faces in to the point they became the Orks, screwed off to try again with other galaxies.
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I now want to see said quest or fanfic come into existence
 
King Arthur said:
We need to convince everybody that, when people die and are put into a robot body, they have to transition out of super important decision making positions within the decade.

We can have the same dudes ruling every organization for the next 10K years. It could work for a small number of people, like say us, but if we don't implement this sort of rule at some point then pretty much every major position of power and influence will stay in the hands of some immortal dude forever and that is a problem.
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I'm thinking everybody in those positions should go through a review by a semi-random council every decade, and I mean everybody including Serras.
 
shade argost said:
I'm thinking everybody in those positions should go through a review by a semi-random council every decade, and I mean everybody including Serras.
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Heh. Honestly, by this point, Serras can call herself the God-Empress/Princess and people will nod along while saying "It's about time she admitted her divinity!".

If she wanted to rule the Bastion for life/indefinetly with a velvet-covered iron fist (which she already does), everyone will be more than happy to keep her in charge.

Plus Serras is controlled by us/SV which means she has SV!Competence.
 
ilbgar123 said:
I once had an idea for a Warhammer/Lilo and Stitch crossover, where the point of divergence was that when the Krorks started kicking their shit in, the Old Ones collectively went 'Screw this! We're outta here!' and, after helping the Eldar smash the Krorks faces in to the point they became the Orks, screwed off to try again with other galaxies.
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.......Jumba Jokeeba is a Old One? Stitch is a fluffy tiny krork?
 
yes....also can we do SL 10 to magnus? get him to stop doing stuipid shit with the warp and do competent shit with karma?

also were all forgetting one justice loving lunatic here...if we find Konrad we should totally do the SL10 with him for a turn...that way we turn him from Night Haunter to King of the Night!!! aka future batman!!!

also we go about helping the primarchs that are fucked up because of chaos, aka mortarian and such. also SL 10 Emperor...cause being daddy's best girl is awesome...

especially if we hit a human civilization that their leader attempts to (POORLY) Flirt with Seras in front of Emps....with Malcador doing the epic facepalm and Emperor Blowing a fuse at the situation...with the rest of the recovered primarchs twitching in absolute COLD fury...and I mean BELOW ABSOLUTE ZERO TEMPERATURE!!!

(I can see the chaos gods trying to run around and do damage control in their realms from the sheer pissed-offness of the family, also Khorne getting off his damn throne to punch all the other chaos tumors in the face while laughing like a lunatic and then telling emperor to take a chill pill cause he just shattered the other guys for awhile, plus all this war for the galaxy is AWESOME! he just might start pulling extra-galactic threats just to keep the fighting going!)
 
Hmm...I wonder if we could fuse Concepts/Crystals with Orichalcix? In the sense that new growth will also carry the Concept, I mean. It would be nice to be able to drop "seeds" of it to engulf dead worlds in Purity-Orichalcix, for example.

On a related note:

We really should develop Growth Crystals. Beyond increasing Orichalcix production, they could also be used to accelerate crop growth. They might also be useful for supersoldiers, allowing their bodies to grow beyond natural limits.

Hell, you might be able to grow inorganic substances, at high levels. Being able to literally farm valuable metals and such would be amazing.
 
Higure said:
Hmm...I wonder if we could fuse Concepts/Crystals with Orichalcix? In the sense that new growth will also carry the Concept, I mean. It would be nice to be able to drop "seeds" of it to engulf dead worlds in Purity-Orichalcix, for example.

On a related note:

We really should develop Growth Crystals. Beyond increasing Orichalcix production, they could also be used to accelerate crop growth. They might also be useful for supersoldiers, allowing their bodies to grow beyond natural limits.

Hell, you might be able to grow inorganic substances, at high levels. Being able to literally farm valuable metals and such would be amazing.
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It might also give people cancer
 
Hrm, after some thinking we could probably also kind-of-sort-of help Angron by putting his soul into a soul stone and reintegrating it with some sense runes back into his body as if he were an Automata. My main issue with that is that it neither removes the nail nor fixes his extremely fucked up brain chemistry, and as such violence will always feel really, really good to Angron. Like, imagine an entire brain, a Primarch's brain at that, rewired to only feel pleasure at the sensation of violence. Even if we 'fix' him so that he can experience other things, nothing will feel as real to him, nor as pleasurable as violence, everything else would seem dull in comparison. And amping up everything else to match his fervor for violence? That is how you get Eldar, I.E. Slaanesh winds up getting a new servant instead of Khorne.

So... yeah, we can kinda-sorta patch the issue without touching the Nail, but that only really bides us time. That, and I try not to do things by half measures.
 
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backgroundnoise said:
Hrm, after some thinking we could probably also kind-of-sort-of help Angron by putting his soul into a soul stone and reintegrating it with some sense runes back into his body as if he were an Automata. My main issue with that is that it neither removes the nail nor fixes his extremely fucked up brain chemistry, and as such violence will always feel really, really good to Angron. Like, imagine an entire brain, a Primarch's brain at that, rewired to only feel pleasure at the sensation of violence. Even if we 'fix' him so that he can experience other things, nothing will feel as real to him, nor as pleasurable as violence, everything else would seem dull in comparison. And amping up everything else to match his fervor for violence? That is how you get Eldar, I.E. Slaanesh winds up getting a new servant instead of Khorne.

So... yeah, we can kinda-sorta patch the issue without touching the Nail, but that only really bides us time. That, and I try not to do things by half measures.
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hmmmm...perhaps a way to clone his body? have the emperor take his gene's and other critical things and then we push his soul into the soul-stone, all the while carefully insuring as much of his personality remains intact as possible all the while healing any spiritual damage done by the nails. this way we can reconstruct Angron if possible.

the other way is to re-calibrate the nails influence on his brain-chemistry...such as limit its entire affects on violence, and instead become a sort of berserker button that Angron can push...sure he might dull down on the whole anger issue and other emotions, but at least he wont be DYING because of the nails being active SOME of the time and not ALL THE DAMN FUCKING TIME!!!

this would be EXTREMLY delicate and require a shit-ton of runes and other shit to slowly reorganize the damn thing both within the warp AND in reality. require dad-emperor, Magnus, perturbo, and possible some other primarch's nearby to help out. This could be a extremely big boom for the world eaters as they can become Lucid Berserkers on a whim instead of all the time, using the increased battle powerss when necessary as part of the legions fighting capability, allowing more creative and terrifyingly level of competence than just charge at something and hope you get within axe range.

Plus Angron's damn bodyguard could actually do their damn job for once.

On that note: we could end up having one of the most violent Primarch's acting as the super-overprotective big brother who would end up causing a massacre or two because of some imagined slight against Sera's honor. consider that some Xeno's species is going to sooner or later insult her very existence and be complete assholes in such a way that Emps or the other primarch's nearby will launch another grand crusade to completely and utter destroy any trace of them both within the veils of reality and within the twisted nether of the warp...removing their trace of existence from reality and the fabric of creation.

or as the emperor calls it (omake on the way!) *edited for future profit*

THIS IS THE REASON WHY I DONT WANT TO HAVE DAUGHTERS AND I LAUGHED WHEN MALCADOR ASKED WHY I DIDNT....I GET TOO PISSED OFF AT BOYS TRYING TO DATE THEM OR DO THINGS I REALLY DONT WANT TO TALK OR THINK ABOUT WITH THEM!!! MY BABY GIRL'S NOT YOURS!!! NOW GO FUCK-OFF TO THE EYE OF TERROR WITHOUT A GELLAR FEILD ON AND LET THOSE DEAMONS DO TERRIBLE-TERRIBLE SHIT TO YOU LIKE WHAT THAT ONE ULTRAMARINE CAPTAIN LET HAPPEN TO THOSE POOR SODS IN THAT ONE CRUISER THEY WENT ON TO GET SHIT DONE IN THE EYE OF TERROR!!!

ALSO BANNA BRAIN, WHILE ON THE SUBJECT OF MY PRECIOUS BABY GIRL...WHY HAVE I NOT SEEN HER AROUND THE IMPERIAL PALACE? IS SHE ALIVE? IS SHE DOING OKAY NOW THAT DAD'S KIND STUCK ON THIS FUCKING THRONE EVEN THOUGH HER BEST-PROJECT OF MAKING THE INFINITY CIRCUITS OF MANKIND TO PREVENT CHAOTIC ASSHOLES FROM TAKING THE SOULS OF MANKIND THAT ARE ACTUALLY FUCKING LOYAL TO THE IMPERIUM AND HAVING THEM HELP ME GUIDE THE IMPERIUM'S SHIPS TO GETTING PLACES TO GET SHIT DONE IS DOING? ALSO BECAUSE I THINK SHE FROGOT SOME KIND OF MANUAL EVEN THOUGH I HIGHLY DOUBT IT BECAUSE IM GETTING WAY STRONGER THEN WHAT I SHOULD BE RIGHT NOW...BECAUSE I THINK MY SOUL-FRAGMENTATION ISNT REALLY HAPPENING BUT IS CONDENSING MY SOUL TO THE POINT WHERE IM BASICLY BECOMMING A HYPER-NOVA IN THE WARP RATHER THEN THE SUPER-NOVA I ONCE WAS, ALSO IM NOT ROTTING OR ANYTHING, JUST REALLY THIN FROM NOT EATING ANY GOOD TACO'S FOR AWHILE.

WHY ARE YOU BEING SO QUITE?

IF SOMTHING HAS HAPPENED TO HER YOU WILL TELL ME OR OTHERWISE I WILL DESTROY THIS GALAXY AND ALL WITHIN IT WITH ONE MASSIVE FUCKING WARP-STORM OF MY PURE-UNDELUTED-PISSED OFF-MAKING_KHORNE_TELL_ME_TO_TAKE_A_CHILL_PILL_INFURIATEDLY-PISSED OFF!

SO TELL ME RIGHT NOW WHERE SHE IS, WHAT HER LADY-LEGION IS DOING, OR SO ME HELP YOU I WILL BE THE END OF YOU AND EVERYONE YOU CARE ABOUT.
 
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The Angron situation could be solved by two successful inventions:

1. Primarch body construction. If we have the genetic makeup of Angron available to us, then cloning the body becomes possible. Astoundingly difficult, but possible.
2. successful soul-to-body movement. We can take a soul out of a body to put it into a stone, but doing the same with a living body may require more warp knowledge than we (or the Emperor, possibly, seeing as he didn't) have. I've also remarked before about the societal implications of immortality so I won't say it again.
 
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