An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.5%
  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%
  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 379 44.5%

  • Total voters
    851
i will support the plan, just add at least one action for humanity crystal.

*grumbles*

I think it's kind of a waste of an action because I'm not really sure what you're expecting it to do. Human is kind of a nebulous concept overall but fine assuming no one else has a problem I'll throw it in.

Not against it, no. You could also ask Raptor and liujuin if they're interested in putting their bonuses.

Sure.
 
@SuperSonicSound right now we can only SL one of our parents thanks to our new siblings so I would suggest dad since we have speech tagged and that gets us the speech all 150 this turn and puts us in range to get speech to 200 next turn. In addition I would drop the medicine SL for the explosive SL and instead use two minor actions to train the two medicine skills that are at 45. That way we get explosives and medicine all 50 and get the three medicine skills to be at the same level along with getting all our skills to over 50. SL train all three at once and since we can take them more then once a turn it makes sense to save them for when we tag there skills when possible. With medicine we can do her SL 5 more times so 75 without tags or 100 with tags to the skills, the latter gets us to 200 faster, saving us 3 actions.
 
@SuperSonicSound Suggest an action or two(maybe take some from the wargear actions) towards making actual power armor for our most elite troops and to give Serras something to base her wargear on.
 
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Thinking that it might be a really good idea to deploy against the Orks as a last action so that we get everything else done first thus getting the bonuses before the fight.
 
*grumbles*

I think it's kind of a waste of an action because I'm not really sure what you're expecting it to do. Human is kind of a nebulous concept overall but fine assuming no one else has a problem I'll throw it in.



Sure.
I'm against humanity crystals.

As you said, it is too nebulous. Philosophers have been arguing for a long time about what qualities are shared universally between humans beyind physical ones.
 
@SuperSonicSound right now we can only SL one of our parents thanks to our new siblings so I would suggest dad since we have speech tagged and that gets us the speech all 150 this turn and puts us in range to get speech to 200 next turn. In addition I would drop the medicine SL for the explosive SL and instead use two minor actions to train the two medicine skills that are at 45. That way we get explosives and medicine all 50 and get the three medicine skills to be at the same level along with getting all our skills to over 50. SL train all three at once and since we can take them more then once a turn it makes sense to save them for when we tag there skills when possible. With medicine we can do her SL 5 more times so 75 without tags or 100 with tags to the skills, the latter gets us to 200 faster, saving us 3 actions.

Hmm, so that'd be a change to

-[] 16 Minor actions
-[] 3x SL Eldar Advisor
-[] 1x SL Isker Vagahen
-[] 1x SL Albert Salnus
-[] 1x SL General Richards
-[] 1x Train Narcotics
-[] 1x Train First-aid
-[] 3x Diplomacy stat training
-[] 3x Control stat training (don't use crystals)
-[] 2x Martial stat training



@SuperSonicSound Suggest an action or two towards making actual power armor for our most elite troops and to give Serras something to base her wargear on.

We've four actions left, I'll put a double towards that.

Thinking that it might be a really good idea to deploy against the Orks as a last action so that we get everything else done first thus getting the bonuses before the fight.

I believe that will happen regardless of how we order the plan. Same way we get ship built in time regardless as long as they aren't going to take multiple turns.
 
@ilbgar123 how many shipyards do we have exactly?

Currently, you have 5 Smalls, which let you build 2 Escorts per year each, 5 Medium, which let you build one Cruiser per year each, and 1 Large, for the 1 Dreadnought per 2 years. An equal number of shipyards are spread out among your allies.

So... @ilbgar123 ...is it possible to advance Replicator technology into Protocrafters? I know full functionality is going to require matter conversion, but what will it take to get to free-form assembly? By which I mean not in a limited box.

Well first you've got to figure out how to do that without basically setting off a mini-nuke every time.

@ilbgar123

I've a question regarding the major actions, can we spend more than one to get better results on for instance the pod?

To every one else, we've banked reroll IIRC, is any one against using that if we get a bad roll on the pod action?

Yes. If you can convince someone to put their bonus in, I'll put it on the higher roll.
 
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How about we create a adaptability gene. I mean if we do that humans will be able to adapt to their surroundings and be able to become more form it. Like if you leave a stock human on a death world, they and their children won't be able to adapt fast enough and die out. The adaptability gene will change that and be able to adapt to their surroundings. We may need a higher medicine, but it would be a boon for the human race a whole. When it comes to crystals on the other hand, why not to an inverse crystal? inverting things, like a Demon of Khorne in to something that is the opposite, like a healer.
 
[X] Plan tri2

[X][MAJOR] Ship Building.
-[X] 1 free escorts, x2 cruisers, x1 escorts
[X][MAJOR] Deploy.
[X][MAJOR] Evacuation.
[X][MAJOR] Diplomacy. x5
[X][MAJOR] Begin Setting Up Framework.
[X][MAJOR] Train learning x3
[X][MINOR] Advanced SL Eldar Advisor x3
[X][MINOR] SL Albert Salnus (Speech / Stat Tutor)
[X][MINOR] SL General Richards (Tactics Tutor)
[X][MINOR] SL Isker ??? (Explosives Tutor)
[X][MINOR] Train Narcotics
[X][MINOR] Train First Aid
[X][MINOR] Train Perception Environment x6
[X][MINOR] 3x Diplomacy stat training
[X][MINOR] Train Control x4 no crystals
[X][FREE] Train 1x Control crystal
[X] 50 Invention Actions, extravagance triple everything, except wargear which is quadrupled
-[X] 4x Create personal wargear
-[X] 6x Create Psy amplifier wargear for Serras either ordering from or working with Eldar artisans
-[X] 6x Improve Voidships. Whichever way we think the most viable/effective.
-[X] 2x Improve Gellar Fields with crystals
-[X] 4x Medigel research, healing paste or compound that can help close wounds, stabilise injuries used in field medicine to deal with sudden trauma.
-[X] 2x Research into life extension technology.
-[X] 4x Improve ship kinetic weapons
-[X] 4x Research power armour
-[X] 2x Help the Eldar with the Thirst, perhaps using soul traps
-[X] 4x Use Penetration Crystals to design Penetrator void munitions.
-[X] 2x Space mines
-[X] 4x Learning Crystal
-[X] 2x Better Combat Simulators. Our general has ordered this.
-[X] 2x Better software
any suggestions?
 
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@SuperSonicSound it looks like you have 16 actions for our gear (10 normal gear and 6 psy gear), it might be just me but I think that's massively over spending especially with out current bonuses.

You could well be right but if you look at how the checks results are structured, improvements just keep on happening until you run out of check. So putting multiple actions towards that means we end up making incredible gear. Maybe it's more than needed, if others say it's to much I'll rip some out and toss them towards something else.
 
How about we create a adaptability gene. I mean if we do that humans will be able to adapt to their surroundings and be able to become more form it. Like if you leave a stock human on a death world, they and their children won't be able to adapt fast enough and die out. The adaptability gene will change that and be able to adapt to their surroundings. We may need a higher medicine, but it would be a boon for the human race a whole. When it comes to crystals on the other hand, why not to an inverse crystal? inverting things, like a Demon of Khorne in to something that is the opposite, like a healer.
Actually, this has most likely already happened. Done during the dark age of technology.

This is why deathworlders are so strong and fast compared to others, why people from the salamanders home world have literal black skin and red eyes (iirc), and so on.
 
You could well be right but if you look at how the checks results are structured, improvements just keep on happening until you run out of check. So putting multiple actions towards that means we end up making incredible gear. Maybe it's more than needed, if others say it's to much I'll rip some out and toss them towards something else.

I get what you mean, we need the best war gear we can get but with the way we keep advancing our runic language I am thinking a few turns in we will be able to make even better gear so I am worried about making whatever we come up with now redundant a few turns in.
 
@SuperSonicSound, it's probably sensible to continue working on psytech that helps the Eldar as well, I feel.

A Willpower rune would probably also be sensible to add to the list, as would a talisman using that to detect people with strong willpower.
 
[X][MINOR] Train Control x4-remaining crystal actions
Using crystals on training control is a strict negative as you're removing the chance of crit splosions.

I get what you mean, we need the best war gear we can get but with the way we keep advancing our runic language I am thinking a few turns in we will be able to make even better gear so I am worried about making whatever we come up with now redundant a few turns in.

Yea it's a fair criticism I'll cut a couple of actions out.

@SuperSonicSound, it's probably sensible to continue working on psytech that helps the Eldar as well, I feel.

A Willpower rune would probably also be sensible to add to the list, as would a talisman using that to detect people with strong willpower.

Hmm, okay i'll see what I can do.

I'm curious as to why no training Advanced Psyker stuff.

We'll grab that via social linking with the Eldar i'm pretty sure.
 
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