Actually, that's kind of my point. That's thought, that's cunning, that's self-interest. That's reason. We can't afford a reasonable Psyker. We need the ones that are fanatics, willing to follow beyond the point of sanity, emotion, or thought. We don't need Psyker friends, we need Psyker slaves. Slaves bound by chains that they can't see, that they can't break.

Because in the end, the struggle against Chaos isn't reasonable. Any rational person would look at Chaos and realize that, sooner or later, they are going to win the war for sols. (Barring Tyranids or Necrons) They are stronger, smarter, and inexhaustible. When it comes right down to it, the struggle against Chaos is futile, because humans are inherently Chaotic. We aren't struggling against some unknowable alien force with Chaos, rather we are fighting something we know all too well: the face in the mirror.

Worse, we are fighting the universe. Evolution favors those that adapt to their environment. Chaos has become the 40K universes environment. Therefore, those best adapted to Chaos are the most perfectly evolved. That's what makes Psykers the next step in human evolution: They are adapting, evolving, to fit the environment they are in. Chaos.

And that is why we need to test Jinah and all other Psykers early. Because if they have any weaknesses, any at all, they can never be what we need, and putting them down would be a mercy. Or mind-wiping them. Whichever.
 
Actually, that's kind of my point. That's thought, that's cunning, that's self-interest. That's reason. We can't afford a reasonable Psyker. We need the ones that are fanatics, willing to follow beyond the point of sanity, emotion, or thought. We don't need Psyker friends, we need Psyker slaves. Slaves bound by chains that they can't see, that they can't break.

Because in the end, the struggle against Chaos isn't reasonable. Any rational person would look at Chaos and realize that, sooner or later, they are going to win the war for sols. (Barring Tyranids or Necrons) They are stronger, smarter, and inexhaustible. When it comes right down to it, the struggle against Chaos is futile, because humans are inherently Chaotic. We aren't struggling against some unknowable alien force with Chaos, rather we are fighting something we know all too well: the face in the mirror.

Worse, we are fighting the universe. Evolution favors those that adapt to their environment. Chaos has become the 40K universes environment. Therefore, those best adapted to Chaos are the most perfectly evolved. That's what makes Psykers the next step in human evolution: They are adapting, evolving, to fit the environment they are in. Chaos.

And that is why we need to test Jinah and all other Psykers early. Because if they have any weaknesses, any at all, they can never be what we need, and putting them down would be a mercy. Or mind-wiping them. Whichever.


And no.

Seriously.

Psyker's should not be slaves, they should rule, they are the next step up a being superior in every way to the modern human.

Besides the only group I'm in favor of doing horribly unethical things too is the Eldar.

who as far as I'm concerned can be broken mentally physically and spiritually then made into slaves and eventually into dragon fertility booster's.

if we can't kill them all and can't even get rid of the ones on planet then we might as well make the ones on planet into something that's actually useful.

it'd be fitting revenge anyway.

They wanted to break us, they killed our dad, destroyed our mom's sanity.

We'll break them, make into nothing but slaves and puppets for our will, crush their arrogance under our boots and when they are no longer useful for any other purpose, use them to make new dragons.
 
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Actually, that's kind of my point. That's thought, that's cunning, that's self-interest. That's reason. We can't afford a reasonable Psyker. We need the ones that are fanatics, willing to follow beyond the point of sanity, emotion, or thought. We don't need Psyker friends, we need Psyker slaves. Slaves bound by chains that they can't see, that they can't break.

Because in the end, the struggle against Chaos isn't reasonable. Any rational person would look at Chaos and realize that, sooner or later, they are going to win the war for sols. (Barring Tyranids or Necrons) They are stronger, smarter, and inexhaustible. When it comes right down to it, the struggle against Chaos is futile, because humans are inherently Chaotic. We aren't struggling against some unknowable alien force with Chaos, rather we are fighting something we know all too well: the face in the mirror.

Worse, we are fighting the universe. Evolution favors those that adapt to their environment. Chaos has become the 40K universes environment. Therefore, those best adapted to Chaos are the most perfectly evolved. That's what makes Psykers the next step in human evolution: They are adapting, evolving, to fit the environment they are in. Chaos.

And that is why we need to test Jinah and all other Psykers early. Because if they have any weaknesses, any at all, they can never be what we need, and putting them down would be a mercy. Or mind-wiping them. Whichever.
That would rather be like testing athletes by putting a twelve year old in front of a tiger to see if she can outrun its interest.

People are mutable. Children GROW, putting someone with less than a year of development into a moral crisis does not 'detect weaknesses'.

All you prove is their luck.
 
And no.

Seriously.

the only group I'm in favor of doing horribly unethical things too is the Eldar.

who as far as I'm concerned can be broken mentally physically and spiritually then made into slaves and eventually into dragon fertility booster's.

if we can't kill them all and can't even get rid of the ones on planet then we might as well make the ones on planet into something that's actually useful.

it'd be fitting revenge anyway.

They wanted to break us, they killed our dad, destroyed our mom's sanity.

We'll break them, make into nothing but slaves and puppets for our will, crush their arrogance under our boots and when they are no longer useful use them to make new dragons.
Too much ninja.

Besides, not all Eldar are terrible.
 
Desperate attempt to change the subject to something more lighthearted, do you think that maybe one day we'll be able to make little genetically engineered not-quite-dragons to serve as household pets? I mean, without the hearts formed from living beings powering them. Imagine a little schnauser-sized drake, bringing the newspaper to its master.
 
Desperate attempt to change the subject to something more lighthearted, do you think that maybe one day we'll be able to make little genetically engineered not-quite-dragons to serve as household pets? I mean, without the hearts formed from living beings powering them. Imagine a little schnauser-sized drake, bringing the newspaper to its master.


almost certainly.

this is definitely something we should do.

Too much ninja.

Besides, not all Eldar are terrible.


the ones that are raiding us are though.

and these are the ones i propose breaking.

the exodites have realized the folly of their ways and thus they may live.

But for the Deldar...

they'll soon be putting a sign above the web way portal to dandriss.

"Abandon all hope ye who enter here."

if we can't force them to stop showing up... then we'll just have to become so fucking scary and horrible even proto-deldar thrill seekers nope the fuck out at the very mention of our planet.
 
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yes?

did you not finish your post?

I'm just brainstorming, the eldar are a problem that desperately need some mitigation.

Since AN has made it impossible to outright solve it.


if you got ideas that don't involve just rolling over and taking it from the arrogant knife-ears, im willing to listen.

sorry that the only solution i can think of is making our planet not outwardly hostile but still so fucking scary that even proto-deldar want nothing to do with it.
 
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"Abandon all hope ye who enter here."

if we can't force them to stop showing up... then we'll just have to become so fucking scary and horrible even proto-deldar thrill seekers nope the fuck out at the very mention of our planet.
You- Do you not understand how Eldar work? They'll just keep coming. In fact, that'll bring in more.

Literally, until we get to the point of actually being a threat. Et which point they'll steamroll us.
 
You- Do you not understand how Eldar work? They'll just keep coming. In fact, that'll bring in more.

Literally, until we get to the point of actually being a threat. Et which point they'll steamroll us.


well then at least they'll be a source of free slaves and dragon aphrodisiac.

maybe we'll start a tradition of stuffing our soldiers eldar kills and using them as trophies?

its not like I'm proposing fucking over the web way anymore.

From what i can tell the Eldar empire's official policy on these thrill seekers is "If they want to risk life and limb for some cheap thrills anything that happens to them is their own fault."

so lets turn this problem into profit! Eldar housekeepers for the wealthy! and Eldar sweatshop workers! have our Soldier's stuff eldar corpses and keep them as trophies!

See if eldar body parts taste good or have any useful properties!

Have our future dragon tamers use them to encourage dragon reproduction!

oh my god... this is better than killing them all!

we'll degrade the "Oh so Superior" Eldar in every single way we can!

Remove every ounce of dignity and pride from their souls, destroy their identities and crush their arrogance!

if they come here seeking to kill and torture our people then they will have earned it!
 
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I'm making the mother of all Dragons here Ekans. can't fret over every Knife Eared Egg.

but I am truly sorry that...






but seriously, I'm open to anyway you've got to make the eldar problem less of a problem.

i just want to put all these freeloading immigrants to work.... but nooooooooo....

fucking chickenshit bureaucrats with your warcrimes and your "human rights" eldar aren't even human! it doesn't apply to them dammit! :mad::mad::mad::V
 
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I'm making the mother of all Dragons here Ekans. can't fret over every Knife Eared Egg.

but seriously, I'm open to anyway you've got to make the eldar problem less of a problem.

i just want to put all these freeloading immigrants to work.... but nooooooooo....

fucking chickenshit bureaucrats with your warcrimes and your "human rights" eldar aren't even human! it doesn't apply to them dammit! :mad::mad::mad::V
But don't you care about their feelings? The poor innocent eldar helplessly stranded alone like a maiden in a defenseless castle on this dark evil planet. You don't know what extreme depravities the poor eldar are constantly being subjugated to by their cruel evil mistress(Dandriss).:V

Don't you what to protect them from the evil dragons out there fantasying over their tantalizing flesh?
 
But don't you care about their feelings? The poor innocent eldar helplessly stranded alone like a maiden in a defenseless castle on this dark evil planet. You don't know what extreme depravities the poor eldar are constantly being subjugated to by their cruel evil mistress(Dandriss).:V

Don't you what to protect them from the evil dragons out there fantasying over their tantalizing flesh?


not even once.

in fact to demonstrate my hatred for the eldar... every time it says lamprey's in this video, replace Lampreys with "Eldar"

... well shit the lampreys video is gone...

okay replace the word "Humans" with "Eldar" in this video then.

 
That would rather be like testing athletes by putting a twelve year old in front of a tiger to see if she can outrun its interest.

People are mutable. Children GROW, putting someone with less than a year of development into a moral crisis does not 'detect weaknesses'.

All you prove is their luck.
Huh. I missed your comment earlier.

This is Warhammer 40K! Double dice are disaster for a Psyker, and bad luck is the only unpardonable crime, for it is punished by death!

Luck is the very first thing we should be testing for!
 
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