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Nix said:
Th update taking longer than AN expected is a bit ominous...
I suppose it could just mean extra awesome instead of disaster, though.
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when the update pauses like this it means one of a few things.

Something unbelievably awesome happened, something unbelievably terrible happened, real life intervened, or the GM just couldn't be arsed to finish it on schedule.

Considering AN its probably one of the first 3, he doesn't seem the type to stall because of laziness.
 
We need Future Telling and Alter Genetics more than we need lightning, it can wait. Besides since we have a Necron theme going we need to make sure the lightning is green.
 
Aeondrac said:
We need Future Telling and Alter Genetics more than we need lightning, it can wait. Besides since we have a Necron theme going we need to make sure the lightning is green.
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This i can support, necrons are great.

And i want to remove the eldar influence on our society.

So worship the forest cuz its C'tan shard, and more metallization would also be good.

Want to figure out how to reduce warp dampening so we can metalize our psyker's without crippling them.
 
ninjafish said:
This i can support, necrons are great.

And i want to remove the eldar influence on our society.

So worship the forest cuz its C'tan shard, and more metallization would also be good.

Want to figure out how to reduce warp dampening so we can metalize our psyker's without crippling them.
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You do know that the forest is at least as much Eldar as it is C'tan, right?

Chances are its even literally Eldar, since Eldar can't biomantically manipulate it and the only other living things that doesn't work on are... Eldar.

Plus, i'd totally buy the Eldar making a bioweapon intended to destroy Necrons out of their own flesh, because why the hell not?
 
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Actually the whole can't manipulate it is probably the combination of the Necrontyr influence making it hate them and the fact that it eats warp energy. If it is resistant and actively disrupts your abilities you aren't going to be able to do anything at all.

Also did AN ever confirm there was a C'tan shard here, I though it was just a theory?
 
Chronic said:
You do know that the forest is at least as much Eldar as it is C'tan, right?

Chances are its even literally Eldar, since Eldar can't biomantically manipulate it and the only other living things that doesn't work on are... Eldar.

Plus, i'd totally buy the Eldar making a bioweapon intended to destroy Necrons out of their own flesh, because why the hell not?
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and then the necrons hijacked it.

and what little will it has probably comes from Some C'tan or necron remnant within it.

and metallization is necron stuff for obvious reasons.
 
ninjafish said:
@Academia Nut ... could we get psycho-reactive bones?
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I wondered a while back if we could use our bones as ward foundations. I believe that I've seen this mentioned in 40k material before. Unlike flesh they're effectively static, and now they're far stronger than before.

We probably need to actually do some proper study though, plus some psychoactive materials research and maybe finally getting around to carefully vetting our sorcery and finding out how it works and what it does - I don't see it happening for a while, stabilizing Jinah and getting a foothold is more important.

Some fleshsculpting Biomancy would be useful to the process as well, and I still want to see if we can use it to integrate dandragon components...
 
I think we will be doing basic warding research after we are done with psychoactive materials. Or at least I remeber that being the consensus the last time it came up.
 
Antumbra said:
I wondered a while back if we could use our bones as ward foundations. I believe that I've seen this mentioned in 40k material before. Unlike flesh they're effectively static, and now they're far stronger than before.

We probably need to actually do some proper study though, plus some psychoactive materials research and maybe finally getting around to carefully vetting our sorcery and finding out how it works and what it does - I don't see it happening for a while, stabilizing Jinah and getting a foothold is more important.

Some fleshsculpting Biomancy would be useful to the process as well, and I still want to see if we can use it to integrate dandragon components...
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I think mixing warding with Dandriss materials that seem to eat warp energy is a really really bad idea.

Arbit said:
I think we will be doing basic warding research after we are done with psychoactive materials. Or at least I remeber that being the consensus the last time it came up.
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After basic psy materials is complete the next project is to work on basic warding.
 
The Laurent said:
Wait, are people really commenting on how long it's taken him to update? He just updated yesterday.
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no your confused.

he said he could get another update finished last night, so we're all wondering what crazy shit just happened to make him stall.

SuperSonicSound said:
I think mixing warding with Dandriss materials that seem to eat warp energy is a really really bad idea.
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and i think your being paranoid.

the dragons have psychoreactive bones.

so obviously we can too with enough effort.
 
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ninjafish said:
i think your being paranoid.
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Your opinion is noted and then disregarded.

There is a difference between using psy reactive materials and our own bones for warding. More importantly we don't know that Mirandes bones are any more of a psy reactive nature any more than flesh is which burns out. There is also a difference between that and standard dandris materials which eat warp energy.

Your lack of any kind of caution in your desired methods mean that people really should take your ideas with a whole mountain of salt.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
I think mixing warding with Dandriss materials that seem to eat warp energy is a really really bad idea.
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Combining wards and warp energy eating flora could actually be a good idea, since the plants give the wards a "safe" place to dump warp energy. Though we shouldn't even attempt it until we are further down the Dandriss research tree as there may be unfortunate consequences to feeding Dandriss large amounts of energy. Also human experimentation with this sort of thing should be right out as far to dangerous.
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psychoactive
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It is psychoreactive not psychoactive, sorry but it really bugs me everytime someone makes that mistake.
 
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SuperSonicSound said:
Your opinion is noted and then disregarded.

There is a difference between using psy reactive materials and our own bones for warding. More importantly we don't know that Mirandes bones are any more of a psy reactive nature any more than flesh is which burns out. There is also a difference between that and standard dandris materials which eat warp energy.

Your lack of any kind of caution in your desired methods mean that people really should take your ideas with a whole mountain of salt.
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i was originally just proposing altering our bones into psychoreactive material like what the dragons claws are made out of.

I figured having our bones made of similar stuff to force weapon's would help mitigate the manifestation penalties of warp deadened without risking losing iron body.

Its some other guy who came up with the "warding our bones" thing, which may or may not work, at any rate we'll save messing around with that for after we know advanced warding.

and for your information i am firmly of the opinion that "No one ever got anywhere by playing it smart!"

The Groundbreakers are always the ones doing shit no one else was brave (or insane) enough to do!
 
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Aeondrac said:
Combining wards and warp energy eating flora could actually be a good idea, since the plants give the wards a "safe" place to dump warp energy. Though we shouldn't even attempt it until we are further down the Dandriss research tree as there may be unfortunate consequences to feeding Dandriss large amounts of energy. Also human experimentation with this sort of thing should be right out as far to dangerous.
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It could be a good idea but until we've completed

Dandriss Flora-Warp Interactions 552/1000 - The plants on Dandriss have peculiar reactions to the energies of the Warp of the kind that you are very interested in studying, but to get proper data you will need some way to control their exposure to said energies Local Adaptation

This and then Dandriss Fauna-Warp interactions, we shouldn't even think about using Dandriss materials with warding.
 
ninjafish said:
The Groundbreakers are always the ones doing shit no one else was brave (or insane) enough to do!
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In a foolishly brave or insane contest with the ground, usually, the ground breaks you.



The secret of innovation isn't to be daring and self-destructive - half the time when people have suffered for their work it was because they simply didn't know to be afraid, not because they threw caution to the wind and went full steam ahead.

Generally people who take risks have done everything they can think of to mitigate them.
 
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I'm sure nothing wrong can happen by giving Dandriss a warp energy source that it doesn't have to capture and can create with geometry alone. The plants can't make anything so complicated, it's not like they can grow tools on trees.
 
lordchaos99 said:
To be fair, Im pretty sure the bones of a Dragon are ALSO Psychoactive, given they use Psykerpowers to fly and power their claws
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Dragon bones are but I responded initially to someone asking about using Mirandes bones for the warding material, which really needs to have a good deal more precautions and knowledge base for Mirande to work from before we consider it.

Ninjafish on the other hand thinks precautions are a dirty word. :/
 
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