No, no, it's anyone who touches us who's on fire now :D

It means the upcoming challenge is different. The guy who just 'rescued' us doesn't know that he's using psyker powers, so is very unlikely to be able to heal us, and is unlikely to be predisposed to listen to a voice in his head telling him to take the obvious mutant to her friends, after just being the prisoner of a bunch of utterly evil mutants.

He doesn't know that we're not aligned with them.
 
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Rolled 99 + 93 + 100 + 60 Education + 60 Discipline + 10 WC + 40 Push = 462
HOLY SHIT

Ahh gotta love the train with no brakes. So I've been reading up a bit more on DH rules and other items, therefore had a few questions before I cast my vote.

1) Would this last update allow us to potentially get the Favoured by the Warp talent/trait?
2) Would choosing other powers finally allow us to pick up stuff like Fearful Aura (with our current willpower and I'm guessing we effectively have a psy rating equivalent of 5 or 6 that would give us a Fear rating of potentially 3 or 4 easily = same level of fear when facing a daemonic incursion)
3) This more a statement of thought here than a question: I'm guessing order for us to get things like Armor of Contempt, Divine Shot (auto hit one impossible shot), Spasm we need to take the option to get more powers?

Anyway my vote is for
[X] More Powers
 
[X] Invest towards improved education trait

Because reasons.

I kinda want to get to the point where when the Great Crusade comes through town we can send a telegram to the Emperor to make them cut it out and he'll have to actually consider it.
 
It means the upcoming challenge is different. The guy who just 'rescued' us doesn't know that he's using psyker powers, so is very unlikely to be able to heal us, and is unlikely to be predisposed to listen to a voice in his head telling him to take the obvious mutant to her friends, after just being the prisoner of a bunch of utterly evil mutants.

He doesn't know that we're not aligned with them.
He didn't throw us off the train. We're also visibly wearing superior armor.
[] Invest towards improved education trait

Because reasons.

I kinda want to get to the point where when the Great Crusade comes through town we can send a telegram to the Emperor to make them cut it out and he'll have to actually consider it.
Taking this wouldn't change that. It speeds up the time to the next education trait, but the one after that is still a little less than 2 centuries away no matter what we pick here.



I don't suppose @Academia Nut could clarify the "bleeding to death" issue?



[X] More powers
 
Hmmm... something to think about. Divinatory powers tend to be passive in effect - you use superior knowledge of the future. Here Mirande did something a little... more, by actually forcing events to occur (or something of the sort).

Could this be something she could learn how to do consistently?
 
He didn't throw us off the train. We're also visibly wearing superior armor.

He didn't need to throw us off the train because we were an unresisting heap on the floor and weren't actively resisting him boarding. We're cargo on his successful escape attempt. He didn't deliberately rescue us.

Also:

The smell you are picking up intermittently is the crowd around you using their own hands to try to staunch their bleeding, until their burns force them to fall back in agony and religious ecstasy.

...

On the other hand, you are going to be taken to him grievously wounded and without your weapons or armour.

It very much seems that we're not wearing armour.

Hmmm... something to think about. Divinatory powers tend to be passive in effect - you use superior knowledge of the future. Here Mirande did something a little... more, by actually forcing events to occur (or something of the sort).

Could this be something she could learn how to do consistently?

From the update, it seems like an improved (Greater) version of the Fortune power.
 
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He didn't need to throw us off the train because we were an unresisting heap on the floor and weren't actively resisting him boarding. We're cargo on his successful escape attempt. He didn't deliberately rescue us.
He probably sensed who was responsible for giving him that huge boost, that's why he jumped between vehicles and came here in the first place rather than escaping with the transport he was on or any of the others. So yes, I do think he did deliberately rescue us.
 
He probably sensed who was responsible for giving him that huge boost, that's why he jumped between vehicles and came here in the first place rather than escaping with the transport he was on or any of the others. So yes, I do think he did deliberately rescue us.

The update suggests he is untrained and doesn't even know what he's doing, so he wouldn't be able to understand what he was sending.

He jumped between the vehicles to escape the guarded prison transport he was on and steal the vehicle we were travelling on that was mostly unarmed. Despite everything, there was still opposition on the prison transport that could potentially kill him. The vehicle he was on was in the middle of crashing into a wall, so he had little choice.

We also twisted fate to ensure that he jumped onto our vehicle. I don't think he has much choice.

There's no evidence to suggest that he deliberately helped us or is even aware that we're here.

This was a prison break, not a rescue.

Edit: correcting a mistake
 
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The update suggests he is untrained and doesn't even know what he's doing, so he wouldn't be able to understand what he was sending.
He wouldn't know how he was sensing it or be able to control what he senses, but being untrained doesn't mean he gets no information out of his senses when it's obvious enough. And a power activated with a roll of 452 and giving him a continuous greater fortune effect should be pretty obvious.

He jumped between the vehicles to escape the guarded prison transport he was on and steal the vehicle we were travelling on that was mostly unarmed. Despite everything, there was still opposition on the prison transport that could potentially kill him.
And there was also opposition on this vehicle that could kill him, until he threw that off. He did pick this particular vehicle to jump to, out of all the ones in the convoy. That at least suggests the possibility that he did it deliberately.
 
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He wouldn't know how he was sensing it or be able to control what he senses, but being untrained doesn't mean he gets no information out of his senses when it's obvious enough. And a power activated with a roll of 452 and giving him a continuous greater fortune effect should be pretty obvious.

Only if you know what to look for, or can tell the difference between other results of our powers and his, or even have conscious access to the senses at all.

When we activated the power he was drugged into unconsciousness after all. It would simply always have been active from the moment he was awake. Even if he was aware of it, that wouldn't tell him what the source was.

And there was also opposition on this vehicle that could kill him, until he threw that off.

There was one pistol and a bunch of completely untrained people. That's not really very dangerous.

He did pick this particular vehicle to jump to, out of all the ones in the convoy. That at least suggests the possibility that he did it deliberately.

We were fortunately in the car directly adjacent to the prisoner transport car he was on when he woke up, so we were the only option avaliable when he chose to bail out.
 
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Only if you know what to look for, or can tell the difference between other results of our powers and his, or even have conscious access to the senses at all.

When we activated the power he was drugged into unconsciousness after all. It would simply always have been active from the moment he was awake. Even if he was aware of it, that wouldn't tell him what the source was.
I expect he would feel strangely empowered, we would appear lighted up like a beacon and give him the same strange feeling, and the empowerment would feel stronger or more immediate as he gets closer.
There was one pistol and a bunch of completely untrained people. That's not really very dangerous.
The pistol was the only object we could identify, that doesn't mean there were no other weapons present. It doesn't seem like the opposition left on the transport would have been much more dangerous after he had already thrown off so many of them.
We were fortunately in the car directly adjacent to the prisoner transport car he was on when he woke up, so we were the only option avaliable when he chose to bail out.
We don't know what other opportunities there may have been, whatever vehicles were directly in front or behind might also have been available.
 
I expect he would feel strangely empowered, we would appear lighted up like a beacon and give him the same strange feeling, and the empowerment would feel stronger or more immediate as he gets closer.

Why? Fortune is non-local, it's also not a direct augmentation of someone. It's probability manipulation of events around them. More importantly, once we'd activated it, it wasn't attached to us any more. From the description it wasn't something we were consciously sustaining, but something we kicked off and then let run independently, so there was nothing about us to see.

The pistol was the only object we could identify, that doesn't mean there were no other weapons present.

Apart from Momento Mori and our pistol, we know that this group had no other weapons with them.

It doesn't seem like the opposition left on the transport would have been much more dangerous after he had already thrown off so many of them.

Rereading, it doesn't matter. The reason he left the prisoner transport was because it crashed as a result of his struggle with the driver. Staying on board meant going splat against the wall. He was planning to stay on the prisoner transport and hijack that until that option was suddenly no longer available. That isn't surprising, because his fellow prisoners were still on board and he would presumably have preferred to save them.

We don't know what other opportunities there may have been, whatever vehicles were directly in front or behind might also have been available.

Why would our fortune manipulation have given him any choice in the matter? The only vehicle he could get to was one in jumping range of the prisoner transport's cab in the moment it crashed. Given what had proceeded that, the one we were on was almost certainly the only choice.
 
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It means the upcoming challenge is different. The guy who just 'rescued' us doesn't know that he's using psyker powers, so is very unlikely to be able to heal us, and is unlikely to be predisposed to listen to a voice in his head telling him to take the obvious mutant to her friends, after just being the prisoner of a bunch of utterly evil mutants.

The only other example of a Mirror Psyker (if this is what he is, and I strongly suspect it is), Zael from the Ravenor series, was a very sensitive to these kinds of things - part of the ability.





It's probably for the best we didn't eat those wrecks, while we might have learnt more about him, if the Albino could sense their echoes inside us - who knows how he'd take that?
 
The only other example of a Mirror Psyker (if this is what he is, and I strongly suspect it is), Zael from the Ravenor series, was a very sensitive to these kinds of things - part of the ability.
Also of note is that Zael eventually became a Grey Knight, taking the name Hyperion. Hopefully this guy has a similarly auspicious destiny ahead of him.
 
The only other example of a Mirror Psyker (if this is what he is, and I strongly suspect it is), Zael from the Ravenor series, was a very sensitive to these kinds of things - part of the ability.

We'll find out, but it seems pretty unlikely, as a Mirror Psyker wouldn't have been able to use Biomancy to clear his system of the drugs that were keeping him knocked out.

It certainly doesn't look like he was initially planning to rescue us.
 
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We'll find out, but it seems pretty unlikely, as a Mirror Psyker wouldn't have been able to use Biomancy to clear his system of the drugs that were keeping him knocked out.

It certainly doesn't look like he was initially planning to rescue us.

The Lexicanum entry implied that they can use the powers of nearby psychics - in this case, he may have been mirroring a nearby biomancer, or riding the last of the charge.


Zael had unconscious divinatory powers as well - our Albino may have unconscious biomancy in the same vein. With that massive roll guiding him, what would ordinarily be passive became a flicker of active direction.
 
The Lexicanum entry implied that they can use the powers of nearby psychics - in this case, he may have been mirroring a nearby biomancer, or riding the last of the charge.

We had better hope that's not the case, or we're potentially really in trouble.

Zael had unconscious divinatory powers as well - our Albino may have unconscious biomancy in the same vein. With that massive roll guiding him, what would ordinarily be passive became a flicker of active direction.

I'm pretty sure that Mirror Psykers were telepaths rather than Diviners.

Zael/Hyperion's main psyker skills were telepathy, pyrokinesis, and he was also a prognosticator, which seems like a specialist kind of Sanctic sorcerer. Of the later two, he needed education to develop.

The mirror effect seems to have been caused by a Perils roll rather than being something inherent to whoever the escaped prisoner is.
 
The Lexicanum entry implied that they can use the powers of nearby psychics - in this case, he may have been mirroring a nearby biomancer, or riding the last of the charge.


Zael had unconscious divinatory powers as well - our Albino may have unconscious biomancy in the same vein. With that massive roll guiding him, what would ordinarily be passive became a flicker of active direction.

The albino was the biomancer, not the nascent psyker who saved us. We don't know what he looked like because we are still asleep.
 
The albino was the biomancer, not the nascent psyker who saved us. We don't know what he looked like because we are still asleep.

I see. I was under the impression the Albino was the psyker who saved us - the guardian of the settlement, and why those four people were tortured to insanity and he was drugged up afterwards while being taken to be broken in properly.
 
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