That's what I'm hoping for. And people wanted to bring two soldiers. PFSHHHH
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Guys go for more powers not a discipline increase.
More powers will let us pick up the low hanging fruit we wouldn't touch with a discipline increase like Mind edit or uplink.
Think about the fight we just had. With Mind edit those mutants wouldn't have been able to even perceive Mirande.
Edit: Please people think about this a bit more thoroughly before jumping on a vote!
More powers will let us pick up the low hanging fruit we wouldn't touch with a discipline increase like Mind edit or uplink.
Think about the fight we just had. With Mind edit those mutants wouldn't have been able to even perceive Mirande.
Edit: Please people think about this a bit more thoroughly before jumping on a vote!
We should not take Telepathy 2 just to smooth through one action that our new buddy seems to have well in hand. We need to take the opportunity to integrate all of our virtual integration, because we honestly have NO IDEA how to do that on our own. Telepathy 2 and 3 (or any of the others at level 1) we can learn easily with a single action. Don't waste this golden opportunity on it.
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I agree that we should be cautious before voting any kind of bandwagon. Personally I'm leaning towards going up to Grandmaster Psyker. It lets us integrate all that Greater Daemon knowledge without having to go through a bunch of guesswork. Notice that our massive success in CHANGING FATE was predicated on rolling Tzeentch's Holy Number. From the way AN has been treating Numerology and Roll Significance, I'm highly confident that Education Increase is the "right" option here.
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
We need to take the more powers option because what Mirande is lacking is the numerous and diverse number of powers within her disciplines. Simply bumping one skill with Telepathy 2 is sub-optimal and I doubt we'll gain Grand master Psyker here.
Your new powers can be selected from the following list. You must choose 2 Divination powers, and then you can choose either 2 Least Powers, 1 Lesser Power, or save for later
[] Least Clairvoyance (range 100m, visual only)
[] Lesser Clairvoyance (range 500m, visual only; 100m visual and audio)
[] Lesser Psychometry (touch, up to 20 years back, greater clarity within the first 10 years)
[] Psychometry (touch, up to 40 years back, audio information within the first 10 years; can also study places rather than objects)
[] Lesser Precognition (a few seconds into the future, +1.5xLearning to Personal Combat rolls for a scene)
[] Precognition (several seconds into the future, +2xLearning to Personal Combat rolls for a scene, 0.5x Learning to Diplomacy rolls for a scene)
[] Future Telling (up to a month into the future, significant detail within the first few days)
[] Advanced Future Telling (up to a year into the future, significant detail within the first week)
[] Fortune (+1.5xWillpower to one non-psychic roll)
[] Advanced Fortune (+2xWillpower to one non-psychic roll)
[] Least Mind Edit (low willpower characters lose track of your presence)
[] Least Uplink (can communicate mentally with unfamiliar characters within 10m, familiar ones within 100m; link with familiar characters last one scene per manifestation)
[] Least Psychic Shriek (willpower contest vs. manifestation roll for all other characters within 3m or be stunned)
[] Least Warp Whisper (opposed willpower test with a single target within 100m, loser is frightened until they can make a willpower check equal to the one they lost by, or one scene, whichever is sooner)
[] Lesser Mind Reading (can pick up all surface thoughts of everyone within 20m for a scene with enough detail to add 0.5xLearning to personal combat and diplomacy rolls with subjects within range; can manifest a second time for more detailed information from one subject, which ends the power)
This is what Mirande needs to be able to invest in.
Telepathy 2 gives a tiny bit more power for manifest telepathic abilities and WILL involve Mirande bumping mind reading. What we should do is have Mirande bump Least uplink and Least Mind edit.
Depending on the number of powers available from the choice maybe even go for Lesser mind edit and least uplink.
Your new powers can be selected from the following list. You must choose 2 Divination powers, and then you can choose either 2 Least Powers, 1 Lesser Power, or save for later
[] Least Clairvoyance (range 100m, visual only)
[] Lesser Clairvoyance (range 500m, visual only; 100m visual and audio)
[] Lesser Psychometry (touch, up to 20 years back, greater clarity within the first 10 years)
[] Psychometry (touch, up to 40 years back, audio information within the first 10 years; can also study places rather than objects)
[] Lesser Precognition (a few seconds into the future, +1.5xLearning to Personal Combat rolls for a scene)
[] Precognition (several seconds into the future, +2xLearning to Personal Combat rolls for a scene, 0.5x Learning to Diplomacy rolls for a scene)
[] Future Telling (up to a month into the future, significant detail within the first few days)
[] Advanced Future Telling (up to a year into the future, significant detail within the first week)
[] Fortune (+1.5xWillpower to one non-psychic roll)
[] Advanced Fortune (+2xWillpower to one non-psychic roll)
[] Least Mind Edit (low willpower characters lose track of your presence)
[] Least Uplink (can communicate mentally with unfamiliar characters within 10m, familiar ones within 100m; link with familiar characters last one scene per manifestation)
[] Least Psychic Shriek (willpower contest vs. manifestation roll for all other characters within 3m or be stunned)
[] Least Warp Whisper (opposed willpower test with a single target within 100m, loser is frightened until they can make a willpower check equal to the one they lost by, or one scene, whichever is sooner)
[] Lesser Mind Reading (can pick up all surface thoughts of everyone within 20m for a scene with enough detail to add 0.5xLearning to personal combat and diplomacy rolls with subjects within range; can manifest a second time for more detailed information from one subject, which ends the power)
This is what Mirande needs to be able to invest in.
Telepathy 2 gives a tiny bit more power for manifest telepathic abilities and WILL involve Mirande bumping mind reading. What we should do is have Mirande bump Least uplink and Least Mind edit.
Depending on the number of powers available from the choice maybe even go for Lesser mind edit and least uplink.
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Edited my previous message to reply to your previous message. To this...
@Academia Nut Can you confirm whether the Improved Education option here will push us up to Grandmaster Psyker? Because that's what it seems like as-written.
Hell with education so high we just might get a minor competence level in each discipline. After all IRL as you get more intelligent intellectual tasks become easier.
Basically lower the threshold for a successful discipline learning roll.
[X] Invest towards improved education trait
Basically lower the threshold for a successful discipline learning roll.
[X] Invest towards improved education trait
... Well that happened.
What does "invest in education trait" mean? Would it improve our Psyker Education Trait by one point? Or just sorta nudge it along because the next level is like 50 years away and getting it right away is a bit too much?
So, this guy apparently has "Greater Fortune" as powers?
What does "invest in education trait" mean? Would it improve our Psyker Education Trait by one point? Or just sorta nudge it along because the next level is like 50 years away and getting it right away is a bit too much?
So, this guy apparently has "Greater Fortune" as powers?
Ah, fond memories of Cherno Quest and the complete lack of brakes on trains.Crazy Train has no breaks.
WITNESS IT
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
@Ekans Ekans Ekans
Investing towards implies that you won't actually get it right this second.
What Mirande needs most here is a larger skill set to put her power to use in.
Telepathically that's Mind edit and Uplink right now. If we take Telepathy II we only get a single power bonus. So Mirande ends up getting Mind reading which is good yes but it's not nearly as useful right now as her getting uplink and mind edit.
Edit: Just read your edit, it's an interesting point but right now I'm more confident in going for the sure choice of more powers for Mirande to be able to fill in the gap for her telepathic powers.
Investing towards implies that you won't actually get it right this second.
What Mirande needs most here is a larger skill set to put her power to use in.
Telepathically that's Mind edit and Uplink right now. If we take Telepathy II we only get a single power bonus. So Mirande ends up getting Mind reading which is good yes but it's not nearly as useful right now as her getting uplink and mind edit.
Edit: Just read your edit, it's an interesting point but right now I'm more confident in going for the sure choice of more powers for Mirande to be able to fill in the gap for her telepathic powers.
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[X] More powers
Yeah picking some low hanging fruits from the telepathy powers would be good. Least Psychic Shriek for example would have been a good thing to have during the fight with the mutants.
Mind Edit to make us more stealthy is good too or Uplink for communication that only other telepaths/psykers are aware of.
Yeah picking some low hanging fruits from the telepathy powers would be good. Least Psychic Shriek for example would have been a good thing to have during the fight with the mutants.
Mind Edit to make us more stealthy is good too or Uplink for communication that only other telepaths/psykers are aware of.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Keep in mind you should never ever use discipline power boosts for low hanging fruit and right now what Mirande needs most is the lower hanging fruit in her discipline trees that she doesn't have yet.
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It would be a considerable investment towards the next level, but it will not get you there right away.
I'd like to hear from AN exactly what the Improved Education option would entail. It seemed in the original update like we qualified for Grandmaster right away "fundamentally enhancing our understanding of the universe" type stuff. But the vote option phrasing makes it less clear. I think maybe until we know more, I'm going to just withdraw my vote entirely and calm down for a few minutes.
[X] NO VOTE Until AN clarifies what the Improved Education option does. And my heart rate slows back down to normal.
EDIT: Okay, AN has weighed in.
... Still might be worth it actually. I don't know enough about the powers system to say for sure. I'll wait until people who understand this better than me have done the differential analysis.
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Also: it looks like while Rambert had a "Viking slave" phase to his adventure, we -- being from a post-apocalyptic age rather than a Fantasy setting -- went Mad Max instead.
@Academia Nut, what physical condition does Mirande think she's in?
Side question, but is our mystery rescuer a Biomancer, given the way that it cleaned itself of drugs?
I'm considering SSS' approach so we can direct the untrained psyker to take us to our allies using Uplink.
Side question, but is our mystery rescuer a Biomancer, given the way that it cleaned itself of drugs?
I'm considering SSS' approach so we can direct the untrained psyker to take us to our allies using Uplink.
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Or someone to kill personally. We have to see how the outlook of this particular find pans out.
[X] Invest towards improved education trait
Soldiers can die on the way, and provoking the fuckstain of a Eldar to show himself for Mori is always a plus in my book.
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[X] Telepathy II
AN you really wanted to include a Mad Max chase somewhere didn't you?
AN you really wanted to include a Mad Max chase somewhere didn't you?
Seems like he is. I don't really want to go for anything that we take JUST to smooth over the current situation. Fate seems to have conspired to smooth it out for us. Or we conspired with Fate, at any rate.
I'm still kind of leaning towards advancing our education trait, even if it's not all the way- it'll pave the way for integrating the rest of the Greater Daemon's knowledge (that Tzeentch Holy Number crit really stands out to me).
We'll have plenty of time sitting by ourselves in the train during the quest to acquire new levels and powers in various disciplines. The Improved Education gain is the most relevant to the nature of our success, and it's the one that we're least sure of how to acquire on our own.
Just my two cents.
We really need to make sure we actually get back to our land train though, and don't die first.