Arkatekt
Harbinger of Shitluck
I knew what you meant yes. That doesn't change the reality of it, though. If you don't introduce nutrients to the body, no amount of magical healing is going to save you.
^.^ I know. It's great isn't it.
A Villain In A World Of Heroes
- Thread starter Dark Ness
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If it was bestowed artifically. What we got is natural (sorta, we stole it from the dead Elk). Evolution could have easily done it, it does lots of complex shit. Or it might not have. Who knows (besides you, that is).
Dark Ness
Rises Where Silence Dies
- Location
- The Primordial Soup
One Question: Why would a magical elk have evolved a specific protection against suffication and/or something else that results in a protection against suffocation (besides standard regeneration, of course)?
(This is not rhetorical and is directed towards the whole thread).
Doesn't need to be a specific protection. If the magical regeneration works at the right level it could do the thing. Like fueling the cells with magic, normally prompting them to quickly heal up wounds, but would also work for the replacement of oxygen for periods of time (till it runs out of Magic, that is).
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
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Hang on.....
When you said Death Forest, was that including the plant life as well?
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
The argument here is that, if you scale down regeneration far enough, it would protect against suffocation by itself, as an extension of the "Healing using magic as fuel instead of nutrients" component of it, by just supplying those nutrients to the cells, because by reforming limbs it has shown that it can generate large amounts of those nutrients out of pure magic, so why wouldn't it be able to generate very small amounts of nutrients to feed the cells?
The Elk would probably never test it out, sure, but I wouldn't be surprised to find one pinned under a boulder at the bottom of a lake somewhere, just watching the fish go by, eternally bored. It'd be hilarious if, as a brick joke, there's a water level ten chapters from now and we find an Elk Lord just laying on the bottom of the pond next to the underwater entrance.
Dark Ness
Rises Where Silence Dies
- Location
- The Primordial Soup
Could it? Sounds cancerous.
I never said Death Forest.
But, possiblely, you haven't met/heard of any extra-dangerous plant life, though.
Dark Ness
Rises Where Silence Dies
- Location
- The Primordial Soup
*Nods* Makes sense, but, is it fast enough? Now, I haven't given exact speeds, but based on what you know, does the regeneration seem fast enough to counteract the effects of suffocation? Remember, yours is weaker then the Elk's.
If it messed it up, yeah. But again, thankfully this isn't something mankind has to make, but something Evolution got to bumble its way through over millions of years. And if they got cancer, then they would be dead, but they aren't dead, so it seems like they have some built-in regulator on that type of thing.Could it? Sounds cancerous.
Weaker, but not much weaker
Meaning, while it might take more than a few minutes to regrow a limb, if we can do that in less than a week that is astounding. More than enough to replace oxygen atleast for a while.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
The ability is this:
Assuming that close means 60-80%, yes we could "regenerate" the nutrients fast enough.
Limbs within Minutes. Assuming ten minutes for the Elk and, let's say 20-30 for us, and assuming that not using oxygen requires 10X nutrients because it's anaerobic cellular respiration, then we'd need to create enough nutrients for ten meals for every meal that the oxygen would be unlocking. So, if a whole chicken could take us an entire twelve hours, and a limb takes us half an hour at the most to regrow (Going off of worst case estimates here), and, because we're presumably a thin little girl, it takes two limbs to equal a chicken, that means that one limb could provide us the nutrients for 36 minutes. (6 X 60 = 360. 360/10 = 36)
It takes us 20-30ish minutes to regen a limb, and 36 to require the same amount of nutrients for feeding our cells, so unless the ability's utility was misrepresented, We don't technically need to breathe, although it will drastically slow our regeneration. Of course, we don't know this, but it's a nice ability.
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I just hope it all works this way. Lots of ways I can think of to abuse shit like this, especially if we keep this ability a secret (filling up a room with noxious gas; allowing the hero to run us through and us play dead afterwards; shit like that). Of course, we are sciencing up a magic topic, so Dark Ness could come up with one of dozens possible excuses for why it doesn't work this way.
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I think that the actual problem here is that we don't IC know this, and can't IC find out short of placing ourselves into a situation where we'd suffocate to death. Even if he tells us that our science is correct, we'd still have to act as if breathing is a thing we need to do for a looooong time, like, until they throw us into a pool tied to a stone for being a witch or something; falling into a river, maybe?
NeoDarklight
Lord of Mind
The best and worst way to counter something like that is "Anything you can do, your enemies can do more efficiently." Best because you can get away with a lot of things and the GM doesn't have to get creative, and worst because those exact same reasons apply to your enemy.
Seriously, do not try to science this up if you don't want to fight true immortals.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
We're already fighting a guy who's power is "Fate will conspire to allow me to win", while suffering from the curse of "Fate will conspire to kill you", with the only defense against that being that we're devout worshipers of the Dice gods. I think that it doesn't matter what buffs we get, because they'll only increase our effectiveness against the people we don't care about.
I hope that he will let us play her as Smart (different from Educated). There are reasons why we could logic out with IC knowledge that we might not need to breath, and test it. Similar things we could do to check our resistance to illness and poison (if we have any).
I was also thinking of shit like that. Dark Ness has to give us some measure for creativity, but that has to come from something that is indeed unique to us, or at least a small number of people. He has mentioned that the more experienced Heroes could cut through these guys with ease, does that mean that most Heroes also have regen and what-not? Because, if they could, why not? It's not like it's a secret you can get power this way. Is it considered dark magic or something? That wolf-heart did effect us more than just give us power, after all. So there is a reasonable reason for why most heroes wouldn't partake of this kind of power-up, the possible down-sides.
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
Good thing we know his weakness! He burns!
Note to self: Improve that fire spell.
Also, proliferate the world with more faux-fire-proof-leather.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Maybe they just learn like video game characters or something. They don't need the powers, because just being a hero for long enough/beating up enough things makes them stronger. Why change yourself when you can just punch a thousand chickens and get the same kind of power, easier?
NeoDarklight
Lord of Mind
Because that makes 1000 angry chickens.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Heroes don't care. They're jerks like that.
NeoDarklight
Lord of Mind
Have you never played Ocarina of Time? Never hit the chickens. They hit back. Hard.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
That was the joke. In this 'verse, people who oppose heroes never win, so the chickens couldn't do anything but peck at him ineffectually, assuming that they didn't just explode when he punched them.
NeoDarklight
Lord of Mind
Who says chickens can't be heroes? There could be an unwritten rule that any chicken struck by a hero becomes a hero itself. We don't know. And now I want to see a quest where you're a Chicken Hero.
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
That's not entirely true. Those who fight back against heroes are cursed by fate to become villains, meaning they will eventually fail. But that doesn't mean they don't kill the initial target of their ire first.