A Naruto Mook Quest [The Gamer/Naruto]

But not by extending our power to them and making them into pseudo gamers via the party system where all their other gains via normal training are rendered moot and they become gamers lite.

What? Why would you willingly hold them back from developing faster by not including them with that?

And all gains aren't rendered moot by the system. It's registered as gains in the system. And really, if we're going to be working with other people, I see no reason not to help them become more bullshithax through our powers. It's not like any gains they make while in the party suddenly disappear when they leave it.

Edit: Ninjaed by GM.
 
[x]Focus on genjutsu
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[x]Socialize with friends (Shikamaru, Ino, Hinata)

Guys our taijutsu and genjutsu are absolute trash, this needs to be fixed sooner rather then later.
 
The actual 'party system' will only give you access to the party chat and allow to see the stats and bio freely regardless of level. You won't be giving them pseud-gamer body to allow them to use skill books or level up like you.
 
[x]Focus on ninjutsu
[x]Focus on genjutsu
[x]Focus on cleaning the dungeon

I would like to point out that currently our ninjutsu is kinda weak. I want to unlock elemental attacks so we can blast people with magic

Did you put to many zeroes there? because that's about 282 times over our current CP total .
For now, we will lower the cost as we level it up, we will get chakra cost lowering techniques like the leaf sticking excercise, and we will raise our chakra a lot over time.
Also, this is the point of
When minimum cost can't be paid the skill costs all the user chakra and can be used only once per day
We can still use those, but only once per day

[ ]Focus on more training (choose one)
This is actually going to be somewhat awkward to count since you are doing by line. I suggest that instead of "choose one" it is "3rd place" for whatever was in the training vote

What? Why would you willingly hold them back from developing faster by not including them with that?
I won't if it is an option, because there is no in character reason not to, which is why I am saying that the system should not allow it in the first place

It makes for a bad story, a boring quest, and is extremely tedious for the QM to keep the dozens of excel sheets (one for each NPC).

Also, it makes them stronger than the PC since the PC can give them a copy of his power, and they keep their own innate power.

Luckily QM agrees and party system only lets us see their stats and talk to them, not give them a copy of our powers
 
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Yamanaka Ino
Age 12, Female, Class Ninja, Title Yamanaka Clan Heiress

Level 5

STR 8
DEX 13
VIT 8
INT 13
WIS 11
LUK 10
CHAKRA 10

The heiress of the Yamanaka Clan, a shinobi in training with considerable skill though she isn't nearly as skilled as she could be otherwise, mostly due to her rivalry with her former friend Haruno Sakura for the affections of one Uchiha Sasuke. A fairly popular girl otherwise, childhood friends with Akimichi Chouji and Nara Shikamaru.
Alright, so we aren't that far behind. Only 14 stat points behind, 8 if we spend what we have now, which will probably be grinded over the next month. This doesn't account for skills, but I doubt we are doing too shabbily there.
[x]Focus on genjutsu
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[x]Socialize with friends (Shikamaru, Ino, Hinata)

Guys our taijutsu and genjutsu are absolute trash, this needs to be fixed sooner rather then later.
Only our genjutsu is rated as "pretty bad". Our Taijutsu is a D+, and will probably go up with increased Fitness, even if we don't focus expressly on Taijutsu. I suggest we do work on our Fitness, cause it's our lowest stat, and it will increase our Chakra pool as much as Intelligence does.
 
[X]Focus on intellect
[X]Focus on general shinobi skills
[X]Focus on cleaning the dungeon

I want that high quality kunai set.
 
Alright, this looks good, we can easily grind taijutsu kn the dungeon, along with the two others, and get some levels.

[x]Focus on ninjutsu
[x]Focus on genjutsu
[x]Focus on cleaning the dungeon

@ryuan Can I get a stat sheet for Sasuke (if possibly, the one next month) with his skill ranks in Tai, Nin and Gen Jutsu? Could you add a quick vote so we can spend some money?

I think we should get that high quality kunai to help our melee.

I wonder if people will realise that skills, not stats, are the Gamer's main strenght. More so when we have debuffs all around.
 
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Also, instead of Intellect, can you do Fitness? It increases our Chakra just as much, and it's our lowest stat area.
it's rather a waste to work on it now due to the child penalty. better to work on our chakra instead while we have said penalty

I think we should get that high quality kunai to help our melee.
@ryuan will this happen automatically or do we need to do a write in to buy better kunai?
 
Alright, this looks good, we can easily grind taijutsu kn the dungeon, along with the two others, and get some levels.

[x]Focus on ninjutsu
[x]Focus on genjutsu
[x]Focus on cleaning the dungeon

@ryuan Can I get a stat sheet for Sasuke (if possibly, the one next month) with his skill ranks in Tai, Nin and Gen Jutsu? Could you add a quick vote so we can spend some money?

I think we should get that high quality kunai to help our melee.
I'm not going to give you the skill ranks of the other academy students.
 
it's rather a waste to work on it now due to the child penalty. better to work on our chakra instead while we have said penalty
It'd be just as much of a waste to work on intellect. If our goal is ONLY Chakra, then yeah, it's best to work on it directly, otherwise if we are wanting higher stats as well Fitness is the way to go.
[X] Focus on intellect
Instead of Intellect, can you do Fitness? It increases our Chakra just as much, and it's our lowest stat area.
 
@mrttao, if there's enough people asking for it you can buy the kunai as a free action, just don't make it a vote since it will clutter the voting tool. The High Quality Kunai is a melee weapon so you only need one.
 
I'm not going to give you the skill ranks of the other academy students.
All right, I'm happy with descriptions of how the classes are going. Can we get the stats, tho?

Ffs, do people even read the thread? Grinding skills is giving far, far more returns than stats. We get a dozen rank ups instead of a couple extra points.
 
It'd be just as much of a waste to work on intellect
I agree with you there. physical training is better than int training right now.
Personally I voted for the super efficient nin + gen training. Both get +25% instead of -25% XP rate. And it would be absolutely awesome if we unlock some offensive ninjutsu like fireball or lightning bolt or what have you

Ffs, do people even read the thread? Grinding skills is giving far, far more returns than stats. We get a dozen rank ups instead of a couple extra points.
that is very much true as well, if we want to purely improve our martial ability and not magic we should be grinding taijutsu not physical stats
While taijutsu shares the -25% penalty of physical stat grinding from child penalty, it will level up a lot faster and give us a lot more in terms of ability.
Also as far as I can tell we are not even tested on raw strength or int, but we are tested on taijutsu

@mrttao, if there's enough people asking for it you can buy the kunai as a free action, just don't make it a vote since it will clutter the voting tool. The High Quality Kunai is a melee weapon so you only need one.
Alright, thanks
I would like to buy one of those. As well as both the 2000 and 5000 disposable sets
 
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I agree with you there. physical training is better than int training right now.
Personally I voted for the super efficient nin + gen training. Both get +25% instead of -25% XP rate. And it would be absolutely awesome if we unlock some offensive ninjutsu like fireball or lightning bolt or what have you
I'd like to shore up our physical stats so they aren't so low, improving our taijutsu and chakra pool all at once.
I also want us to get Meditation, so that we finally have it, for more Chakra grinding later, and as a means to more quickly regain chakra for more intense chakra grinding.
 
improving our taijutsu and chakra pool all at once.
Physical training doesn't improve our taijutsu (skills), it improves our melee combat ability (aka, we deal more damage).
And taijutsu training is far better at improving our melee ability overall that grinding stats

As for improving our chakra, you want to just level up, or to use it a lot. for example by training nin or genjutsu
 
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Taijutsu training is far far far far better at improving our taijutsu than physical training.
To improve our chakra you want to just level up, or to use it a lot. for example by training nin or genjutsu
Yes, but Taijutsu training is focused on the Taijutsu skill, not our physical stats, leaving those pitfully low and not improving the chakra pool. It's about killing multiple birds with one stone.
Plus, those skills act as a multiplier, having a high multiplier doesn't do much when your base stat is low.
 
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Yes, but Taijutsu training is focused on the Taijutsu skill, not our physical stats, leaving those pitfully low and not improving the chakra pool. It's about killing multiple birds with one stone.
You are not killing multiple birds with one stone. "Better one bird in hand than 2 in the tree" apply here.

Let's say taijutsu training would have given us +10 melee, and ninjutsu would give us +10 chakra (not counting the +25% -25% thing)
Killing two birds with one stone would be if physical gave us (hypothetically) +8 to both melee and chakra, for a grand total of +16 overall

But it doesn't, it gives us closer to +1 to both. Meaning it is a bad choice to train this right now. Eventually as we start running into diminishing returns on dedicated training options it might be a better choice. But right now if we spend 2 actions training physical we will get worse results than 1 action training taijutsu and 1 action training ninjutsu.

At least int training makes us better at learning theoretical stuff
 
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Yes, but Taijutsu training is focused on the Taijutsu skill, not our physical stats, leaving those pitfully low and not improving the chakra pool. It's about killing multiple birds with one stone.
Plus, those skills act as a multiplier, having a high multiplier doesn't do much when your base stat is low.
You did see the stat comparison right? We are getting a few points every turn without focusing on either fitness or taijutsu. Taijutsu not only gives far larger gains to our melee combat, it also grinds our physical stats, enough that we will catch up in a handful of months. Taijutsu is pretty much the core of low-mid level ninja combat here, and we are utter shit at it. That can go on.

Now clearing dungeons while training ninjutsu and genjutsu is a pretty damn neat idea. Not only it was mentioned as the best way to train taijutsu, as it is our primary mode of attack as of now and we can go all out, it also gets us some levels, of which we are lacking.
 
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You are not killing multiple birds with one stone. "Better one bird in hand than 2 in the tree" apply here.

Let's say taijutsu training would have given us +10 melee, and ninjutsu would give us +10 chakra
Killing two birds with one stone would be if it gave us, say, +8 to both melee and chakra, for a grand total of +16 overall

But it doesn't, it gives us closer to +1 to both. Meaning it is a bad choice to train this right now. Eventually as we start running into diminishing returns on dedicated training options it might be a better choice. But right now if we spend 2 actions training physical we will get worse results than 1 action training taijutsu and 1 action training ninjutsu
Except taijutsu does not give us +10 melee, it gives us +10% melee. Again, it's a multiplier. By increasing our base stats, we increase how powerful that multiplier is. Currently, our Taijutsu score gives us a +76% in our fighting ability. Suppose training increases our stat by 4 points (it did when we did intelligence), that would turn out to be +7 melee. To get the same by increasing the skill, we would need to turn the +76% into +116%. Which seems doable, but I do not believe we will go at all higher than that.
So by training our body, we would not only gain the same melee increase, but also get a boost in our chakra pool.
 
Except taijutsu does not give us +10 melee, it gives us +10% melee
Converting % to numbers is not exactly rocket science, it is basic algebra. I was using the same notation for both to avoid confusion. Also, the figures were meant to clarify the difference between "two birds with one stone" and "two birds in the tree" rather than being hard figures.

Anyways, what you are failing to get is just the sheer difference in raising stats and skills.

From attending class
Stealth level increased by 4!
Survival level increased by 4!
Trap Making level increased by 6!
Hojojutsu level increased by 6!
Throw weapons mastery level increased by 4!
Konoha Academy Taijutsu level increased by 4!

Leaf Sticking Exercise level increased by 8!
Henge no Jutsu level increased by 4!
Kawarimi no Jutsu level increased by 4!
Bunshin no Jutsu level increased by 4!

Through continuous effort your STR was increased by 1!
Through continuous effort your DEX was increased by 1!
Through continuous effort your VIT was increased by 1!
+3 stat points and +48 skill levels

This is what we got from
[] Focus on Ninjutsu
Leaf Sticking Exercise level increased by 12!
Henge no Jutsu level increased by 8!
Kawarimi no Jutsu level increased by 8!
Bunshin no Jutsu level increased by 8!
+36 skill levels

This is what we got from
[] Focus on Intellect
Through careful study your INT increased by 3!
Through good decision making your WIS increased by 3!
+6 stat points

As can be clearly seen above, training a stat gave a tiny fraction of the points of training a skill. At some point stats do become better train, but we are not there yet

To get the same by increasing the skill, we would need to turn the +76% into +116%.
It is not just doable, it is far far far easier to do so via skill training than stat training
 
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I think focusing on chakra stuff right now makes the most sense. We don't have to beat the average student in every area, so long as we're solidly above average in a few areas.

Play to our current strengths.
 
Converting % to numbers is not exactly rocket science, it is basic algebra. My result stands.


What you are failing to get is just the sheer difference in raising stats and skills.

This is what we got from class

Note the +1 to stats while +4 to +8 in skills

This is what we got from
[] Focus on Ninjutsu

+36 skill levels

This is what we got from
[] Focus on Intellect

+6 stat points

Training a stat gave us +6 stat points, training skills gave us +36 skill levels. See the difference?
But 1 skill level =! 1 stat level. Each skill level gives a +6%, while how much of a percentage increase a stat does is related to how high that stat is. Our stats are currently really low. The balance is further pushed in the favor of stats, in that all those skills were levels were scattered over a bunch of different skills, which are more selective than the stats. All the skills draw from the same stats, so increasing those stats increase all of those skills.
 
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