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- Maryland
Yeah, that's about what I figured Superbia's reaction to be: more pissed about being wrong than getting a new Beast.
A Little Vice (Trans Magical Girl fic)
- Thread starter Shadell
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How can you just.. write these lies!?
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- Not the asylum anymore
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- She/Her
Good as always, but why does readibg this still feel like digital masochism? Chiro's turned into the goth girl we all wish we could be (even if she hasn't accepted it yet), and it turns out the Sinners have (something resembling) a righteous cause, ibstead of being good people in a tight spot. But something feels off. Is it just my own gender envy flaring up?
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- United States
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- They/Them
Considering just the sheer euphoria I could feel from the chapter made me have a mini crisis of my own, I'm gonna guess Chiro has the ability to instill gender envy in people from across dimensions./joking (or just the fact the author wrote it out super well)
Theaxofwar
Definitely not a Bunny Cat in disguise.
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- Standing right behind you
I don't think there are any problems that can't be resolved with a strategic application of cool goth girls tbh
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- Somewhere!
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- She/Her
Well, there's a fly in the ointment of this chapter, pretty intentionally...
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- Mid-Atlantic
I mean, he is Pride.
It's just a shame that his Jordan Peterson energies cause him to channel his Pride specifically along transphobic lines.
Hypothesis:
You're right, but Invidia is insufficiently strategic.
"When the boomers were young, cool, and committed to their own time's form of social justice... I was already yelling at them to get off my lawn."
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- She/Her
Chapter title fixed.
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- madison
well now this feels like a key question. What is the line between the sin and virtue of the same kind of emotion? This feels like its going to be a central question of the sin V virtue conflict. As for their side of the story, I'm not sure how accurate Superbia's story is. given that they would probably have a fairly biased view, few things can twist perception like absolute pride. I rather doubt that the beasts where attacked simply out of fear for what they might do.
That being said, reading between the lines, it does sound like lupins homeworld is a fairly oppressive place to live. She puts enough emphasis on how its wrong to judge people for there emotion I'm pretty sure there is some major thought police stuff going on. But the more I find out about Superbia the less I trust them. I think Lupin may be falling for the mental trap of thinking that because side A is wrong, their opponent side B must be right. I don't think Superbia wants to end the oppression, I think they just want to be on the other side of the boot.
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- They/Them
Hmm, so there's two episodes left of the Cour.
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- They/Them
You know what the showrunners should do? Have a "Bad Guy" episode where it shows a day out doing things and plotting deeds with Invidia/Avarita.
Set up the semi-twist of the competing stories and so on, etc, etc.
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- England
It probably wouldn't solve any of mine either, but I'd still do it given the option.
Okay, you two should just ditch Superbia and go be adorable somewhere.
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Lexica
Persevere
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- She/Her
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
This is so good. God. Everything about this is so good. Also painful, but good.
Poor Chiro, she's so happy just getting to look at herself in a mirror and try on clothes. And of course Avaritia has to moon logic her into even using She/Her pronouns, but she's getting there!!!!
On the other hand, oof at literally everything involving Superbia and cutting herself off from her other friends, and being afraid that if she rejects her sin she won't be able to have all this anymore. It's so painful how all the good and bad in her life is intertwined.
It's hilarious that after calling all the saints out on how obvious they were, she's going to be equally obvious though lol.
This is so good. God. Everything about this is so good. Also painful, but good.
Poor Chiro, she's so happy just getting to look at herself in a mirror and try on clothes. And of course Avaritia has to moon logic her into even using She/Her pronouns, but she's getting there!!!!
On the other hand, oof at literally everything involving Superbia and cutting herself off from her other friends, and being afraid that if she rejects her sin she won't be able to have all this anymore. It's so painful how all the good and bad in her life is intertwined.
It's hilarious that after calling all the saints out on how obvious they were, she's going to be equally obvious though lol.
I've seen less elaborate gymnastics at the Olympics than whatever the hell is going on in Avaritia's head.
Anyways, love the fic. Even as someone who is neither trans nor at all familiar with the genre the storytelling is strong enough to give me sympathetic anxiety for poor Chiro. Keep up the good work.
Anyways, love the fic. Even as someone who is neither trans nor at all familiar with the genre the storytelling is strong enough to give me sympathetic anxiety for poor Chiro. Keep up the good work.
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- Earth
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- He/Him
(sounds of metaphorical bat teeth scraping against the inside of an iron eggshell)
(sounds of literal shark teeth scraping against the outside of an iron eggshell)
(wailing and gnashing of wolf teeth against the iron eggshell)
C had rather serious reservations about Lupin's beliefs, but now that they're the standards Invidia is struggling to live up to, it's "the right thing"? My poor tautologically self-loathing blorbo.
Interesting lore. The seeds make people feel like crap if they don't indulge in their sin enough. Contrast that with, for instance, Temperance still being able to snack to her heart's content, or Ida being actively encouraged to be less diligent by her saintly companions.
Avaritia, are you sure it's Michael forcing people to act according to a prescribed standard?
Now, admittedly, it's possible the other Children of the Forest are stricter than Michael. I don't think we know anything about them except, like, a paragraph of Avaritia describing Babby Gula.
But Avaritia isn't fighting against them. Ey're fighting against Michael and the Saints, and for Superbia.
And then ey say stuff like this.
Which...like, yeah, it's a joke, but it's a joke she's using to justify twisting Chiro's arm into doing makeup. It's a justification that, on some level, she seems to believe in, and which contradicts her whole reason for following Superbia, and she doesn't even realize it, let alone realize that Superbia also wants to enforce standards on his sinners.
Priorities.
Oh no, suppressing your true thoughts to pretend to be the boy everyone thinks you are? How will you ever manage such an unfamiliar—
Oh right, magic.
I'd have to ask Michael, but I'm pretty sure you still have the title.
Well, um, it's good that you admit your faults.
Eleven episodes in and this is the most damage anyone has done to C's eggshell.
Cast. Iron. Egg.
Oh hey look, it's that central theme again. What is virtue? What is vice? When is indulging sin good?
Avaritia has been planning this since ey put that seed in her, hasn't em.
For all the good it did.
Yes, queen! Slay! Literally, if possible!
Take your bets: Abyssal creation or Little Caesars?
(This joke is funny if you live in a town with a Little Caesars. It's cheap and it tastes like it.)
Mood.
Oh right, trans. Less mood. Or...more specific mood? I think?
Memes are hard.
It works for Temperance.
...I guess she wants the Saints to know who she is, though.
MIDI is a file format for electronic music which records notes and some metadata rather than pure audio. I'm sure this answers your question.
No specific quote for this, but...if Superbia is the abyssal Jordan Peterson, is Invidia the abyssal Blair White?
Good timing.
I can't speak for everyone (especially people who empathize with Invidia's gender and not just her self-loathing), but I feel like this chapter isn't actually showing that the Sinners have a righteous cause. It's clarifying Avaritia's previously-stated beliefs about why her cause is righteous, while also throwing up a bunch of brimstone-red flags.
But as Avaritia herself admits, she's not good with strategy. Turning C into a cool goth girl was a good tactical choice, but the way ey did it is mucking up the operational layer.
Hey now, that's not fair. This kind of reactionary transphobia is hardly unique to Peterson. And come to think of it, Superbia doesn't spend much time on Peterson-ly debates with woke liberal communists or whatever he calls them.
Not sure how that would play with the anime's actual plans, but it would make a great OVA once the series wraps up.
To be fair, Avaritia admits that it's all bullshit. Or at least that the stuff ey say to Superbia about eir pronouns is bullshit, but considering how hard eir transceiver pinged at C and the fact that we know ey engage in gendyrnastics to get Abyssal people to go along with trans identities...well, it's not like ey'd tell Invidia ey were BSing her.
Iris-Iven-Ibis
Interested-Idiot-Immortal
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- You know
" Episode 23: The Fourth Saint?! A Mysterious Transfer Student Arrives!"
Is C(hiro}ptera) going to pretend to be another saint and stop their own monster please tell me this is what's going to happen
Also can someone tell me how many times the word girl was using the last chapter? I feel like this is very relevant
Edit: I now realize who the final villain of the show is it's the people who live under the first tree who are a metaphor for the religious right (*cough*conservative Christians)
Is C(hiro}ptera) going to pretend to be another saint and stop their own monster please tell me this is what's going to happen
Also can someone tell me how many times the word girl was using the last chapter? I feel like this is very relevant
Edit: I now realize who the final villain of the show is it's the people who live under the first tree who are a metaphor for the religious right (*cough*
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Can't tell if I'm lucky or just a meguca~
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- SV's Only Complete Persona Quest
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- She/Her
Was just thinking, you know what this story kinda reminds me of? Naoki Urasawa's Pluto, which is a Perspective Flip of an Astro Boy arc. While much darker than Astro Boy, Pluto was praised for actually changing very little about Astro Boy's setting, just simply showing readers how dark things looked from another's perspective (though I might be misremembering, it's been a while since I've read Pluto and the anime's not out yet).
Likewise, the reason A Little Vice comes off dark to us is not because it's any darker than say your average Pretty Cure season, but due to us experiencing it from Invidia's perspective in particular. I have to imagine Sailor Moon could come off the same if you made one of the Four Generals the main character too.
Edit: Great update btw, worth the 11k words!
Likewise, the reason A Little Vice comes off dark to us is not because it's any darker than say your average Pretty Cure season, but due to us experiencing it from Invidia's perspective in particular. I have to imagine Sailor Moon could come off the same if you made one of the Four Generals the main character too.
Edit: Great update btw, worth the 11k words!
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- Earth
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Not counting the "Next week!" segment, 36. 38 if you do.
Also, that seems like a pretty good way for Invidia to accomplish the goal of limiting collateral damage, and it would make it easier for Shadell to keep the reader informed about what the Saints are doing outside of classes and monster fights. But the next episode summary mentions Invidia by that name, so she's in bat mode at least part of the episode.
It's possible that she's transforming between her Invidia and Humanitas identities—also hilarious—but that doesn't sound likely.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Well, she does know better than anyone just how well that kind of insane troll obviousness works.