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“Human Resources” Shouldn’t Be This Literal: A PMMM/ProjectMoon Quest

Would you Distort or manifest EGO?

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Lepidoptera said:
Furthermore, in your current arrangement, there are certain volatile factors that need to be balanced.
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Note for later: Do not place Kyouko in any team with explosive Distortions, they might get excited by the heat and explode.

What do you mean, not that kind of volatile? :V

Lepidoptera said:
"Haven't you seen enough? What about everything you've seen so far makes you think that becoming a Magical Girl will do anything other than hurt you?" Homura's voice remains flat, though her frustration is apparent in her words. And yet, there's a trace of resignation in the way she starts to turn away before Madoka has even responded. She's had this argument before, and already knows how it ends.

"I know it'll be hard. But even then, shouldn't I do what I can to help people?" Madoka answers. Homura doesn't respond, already moving further in through the Barrier.
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About what I expected, we need to have our talk with Madoka and present alternatives, as is, her wishing is a certainty sooner or later, she wants to help, needs to help to not feel pointless, we need to give her a way to release that, the abnormality book is a step, but with the lack of them recently, it isn't helping as much as it could.

We also need to find a way to have Homura explain her circumstances to Madoka, knowing that someone would be deeply hurt by her wishing would help reduce her wants to be a martyr.

Lepidoptera said:
"If you don't have anywhere else to go… would you like to stay over at my house tonight?"

"Yes." Homura's delivery is flat and passionless, but the speed with which she replies gives away her real reaction. You quietly step away, leaving the two to head back together. The night has fallen, and that means only one thing for you.
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Progress! Not as much as I hoped, what with not having a long talk, but that's a very good step in the right direction, Madoka is interested in Homura as a friend, and that's a good thing, for both of them.

Lepidoptera said:
Character interactions are difficult, and I haven't had as much practice writing Madoka as I have other characters. This chapter was a bit of a challenge.
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.... You'll be happy to learn that I still am thinking on having that deep conversation with Madoka and Homura for this vote? More time to get her voice is good, right? :V

Suleverf said:
After distorting, Jae-heon remarks about becoming confused with all kinds of thoughts, and losing his way for a while until Argalia found him. That is similar to my personal interpretation of normal witch thought processes in canon. Definitely conscious, but in a sort of hazy dreamlike state.
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The hazy-dreamlike interpretation seem to be the case from what little we get of direct witches thoughts in canon, both in descriptions from the cards and what little we get from Homura in Rebellion right as she witches out.

And because I said I would do it:

[x] Actually, go back and see Madoka and Homura, you need to have a conversation with the both of them. It's also about time you meet Madoka's parents!
 
We should probably start building cloning machines to give girls their bodies. I don't think leaving fifty armed teenagers in one place for long is a good idea. In addition, some of them may have abilities that are useful for our situation.
Hmm, we can offer Incubators to restore the bodies of Magical Girls whose Soul Gems survived. It probably doesn't happen often, but the Incubators can get more power from these girls before they die, and we can help them, and maybe get their help in return, so it's a double win.

[X] Actually, go back and see Madoka and Homura, you need to have a conversation with the both of them. It's also about time you meet Madoka's parents!

It probably won't be long because it's already evening. Though Homura won't be able to communicate with Madoka's parents due to his inhuman appearance.

Lepidoptera: Huh, okay, I wasn't sure how to text Madoka, but I managed to avoid a long conversation. What do the players want to do next?
Nyarky: Long conversation with Madoka.
Lepidoptera: ...Oh look, looks like I need to update my Distortion quest, see you later!
 
[X] Training/Experimentation
-[X] Finish the teleportation experiment and try to test what our new limits are now after the conflict.
 
[X] Training/Experimentation
-[X] Finish the teleportation experiment and try to test what our new limits are now after the conflict.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Lepidoptera on Feb 17, 2023 at 10:36 PM, finished with 9 posts and 7 votes.
  • [X] Attend to business in the Library
    [x] Actually, go back and see Madoka and Homura, you need to have a conversation with the both of them. It's also about time you meet Madoka's parents!
    [X] Training/Experimentation
    -[X] Finish the teleportation experiment and try to test what our new limits are now after the conflict.
    [X] Hunt Witches/Abnormalities
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I would appreciate some consolidation of the voting. I'll extend the period by a day or two, and if the tie still exists I'll just pick one.
 
You know, rip a few machinery out of her floor To actually put them to use instead of rotting in there like decorations and Make sure that those girls are actually in adjusting to their new life in the library.
 
We can go to the library right now if you want, but we still need that talk with Madoka soon, also Hitomi, and the parents, we really need to shore up our girls social circle so that they can talk to more adults than us, and talk with a friend who isn't and cannot be magical girl, just those two things alone would help make Madoka think before wishing more than quite a lot of what we can do, only interacting with magical girls is screwing with her sense of importance, since her only comparaison are people with magic powers, she needs a return to normalcy and to see that a reminder that normal people are important too.

We can wait right now because it's late and all that, but we should do it tomorrow.

And if we're going to go to the library now, I am going to continue to vote for X to tell about being an abnormality to a patron librarian till she gives up and do it, Madoka's not the only one who needs a talk to stop her from being a martyr, it's just that X has more experience in actually being a martyr. :V
 
Nyarky said:
And if we're going to go to the library now, I am going to continue to vote for X to tell about being an abnormality to a patron librarian till she gives up and do it, Madoka's not the only one who needs a talk to stop her from being a martyr, it's just that X has more experience in actually being a martyr. :V
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This made me think; does Angela know the specifics of our nature as an abnormality? Like, the whole "recreates the facility" deal and so on.
 
Nyarky said:
Not sure actually, we admitted to being one, but I don't think we told her how we worked.
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I wonder what her reaction/opinion on the abnormality might be then.

Probably not good, considering that it's a recreation of her - and many others, no doubt - personal hell. And that is just scratching the surface without considering how X's behaviour might be affected without her shell.
 
Well, we can test that in the library, I still think that it may be possible for us to go without our shell in some parts of our floor, if we can we can have a discussion about this directly with Angela.

Though, Angela would probably pity us more than anything, she knows enough about abnormalities to infer that we ended up like this because, just like her, this hell was the only thing we knew.
 
... Oh god.
She will definitely pity us because she can move on from her hell.
But we cannot, X cannot.
Because the hell has become the core of X's being, there is nothing else for her than that hell. There's no past brighter than this hell. The hell is every part of her and her life.
And she would live in that hell forever and ever. Because for her... there is no outside and there is no moving on.
god...
 
[X] Attend to business in the Library

I'll throw the vote here for now, we'll just let what emotional stuff has happened sink in for now
 
Arkio said:
This made me think; does Angela know the specifics of our nature as an abnormality? Like, the whole "recreates the facility" deal and so on.
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She does, the Library automatically receives detailed information on everything in it. The sole exception to this is [CENSORED], who is treated as it was in Lobotomy Corporation and kept under information blackout.
 
Good thing like White Night, X is perfectly stable. Her true form is unveiled only when needed to deliver salvation to the lost :V

[X] Attend to business in the Library
 
Nyarky said:
We can go to the library right now if you want, but we still need that talk with Madoka soon, also Hitomi, and the parents, we really need to shore up our girls social circle so that they can talk to more adults than us, and talk with a friend who isn't and cannot be magical girl, just those two things alone would help make Madoka think before wishing more than quite a lot of what we can do, only interacting with magical girls is screwing with her sense of importance, since her only comparaison are people with magic powers, she needs a return to normalcy and to see that a reminder that normal people are important too.
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I don't like this approach. Instead of trying to "subtly" manipulate Madoka into doing what we want her to, why not just tell her our issues with her mindset to her face?

If wishing, or getting involved with MG business, is a bad thing, at least we need to explain to her exactly why it is so bad. It's not like we have complicated personal reasons not to talk to her about this like Homura.

"It's not that important, look at normal people instead" is, at best, simply wrong, and at worst, an outright lie. Because what's happening is, in fact, pretty damn important: lives (and/or souls) are at stake, and multiple people she knows are caught up in this already. What's more, Madoka is in a position to influence things for the better; in these circumstances, trying to go for an artificial return to "normalcy" will not, and should not, work.

Even if we can't tell her that her wishing dooms the planet (because we'd need to explain the origin of witches for that), we can simply say that specifically her wishing would be very bad, and not just for her, for reasons we can't specify at the moment.

If the reason is that wishing would make Homura very sad, then tell her that, too. Though, I'm sure she's aware of it on some level already.
 
diplomacy said:
I don't like this approach. Instead of trying to "subtly" manipulate Madoka into doing what we want her to, why not just tell her our issues with her mindset to her face?
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Where did I say I wanted to subtly manipulate her? This isn't and has never been my goal, I don't want to be subtle about it, I want to be in her face and honest about reminding her that she is still a child and should be able to turn to her parents for advice, and that this kind of life changing decision should not be taken on the advice of anyone who encourage cutting ties with your former life like any cult leader.

diplomacy said:
"It's not that important, look at normal people instead" is, at best, simply wrong, and at worst, an outright lie. Because what's happening is, in fact, pretty damn important: lives (and/or souls) are at stake, and multiple people she knows are caught up in this already. What's more, Madoka is in a position to influence things for the better; in these circumstances, trying to go for an artificial return to "normalcy" will not, and should not, work.
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You misunderstood what I wanted to say, I am not telling that what's happening is not important, I am telling that she can do important things, including to the magical world, without wishing, that there are other important things to magical girls lives than just their ability to fight, their emotional health matters to, and Madoka can help on that easier without being a magical girl influenced by grief.

I want to do the things you are talking about, telling her about witches and how hers is too dangerous, trying to get Homura to tell her about her powers so that she can explain (or we can explain for her) about how hurt she would get if she saw Madoka wish.

The reason I was talking exclusively about shoring up Madoka's social circle is that it is simultaneously an important point to any strategies about counteracting her martyrdom tendencies, and a way to help all our girls, Kyubey is using a classic cult indoctrination method when he cuts of the girls from normal life, we already are partially remedying to that by acting as the adult in the room, but in the end, we need to completely remove that artificial manipulation by Kyubey to get the girls out of the partially cultisty mentality of magical girls being isolated from normal life, they are children, we should let them be goddamn children, and they should all be able to talk with their parents about the very important decision they were forced to take due to the cult leader named Kyubey that took their ability to turn to others for answers from them.
 
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