Would you Distort or manifest EGO?


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Do I really need to pull up the ship of theseus condrum
We alter them too much and they won't be our kids anymore but mere puppets
Do you wish to follow homuras path during rebellion? Do you wish to take the devils road?

No matter the setbacks we can bounce back
We have time and hope on our side
We need only be patient and work our way to the goal
No matter the setbacks we will succeed
 
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Better to be changed than to be sunken.

You don't get to Day 50: 0 Deaths if you shy away from using everything you have at your disposal.
 
Or the fact that Big Bird is likely to remain as a Sapling for the rest of the quest due to the nature of his requirement.
That's simple. We happen to get Nothing There to relinquish its soul gems (hopefully willingly), and then realize we made a massive mistake. It gifts us a pile of 30+ tormented magical girl souls whose bodies have been ground up into meat puppets just for Manager. Since lobotomy is likened to surgery I doubt it can be performed en masse simultaneously. Therefore, tetris is the only way. :V
 
...I don't think you can just do that with Big birds stick.
his entire thing is he thinks mercy kills is saving, If we are going with their logic to unlock their ego, then we'll have to kill someone and X have already tried No mercy killing, it didn't work.
So it must be mercy kill, since It has been proven that previous action can help your unlocking process too.
so... yeah, there's no going around it.
 
Since lobotomy is likened to surgery I doubt it can be performed en masse simultaneously. Therefore, tetris is the only way. :V
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Yeah, that's a good option actually. BUT only if we fail at convincing NT to hold off on turning into a sapling before we can disable each SGems individually.

We have to purposefully pursue them for horrible conditions like that to arise.
 
Indeed meme but do you wish to take the same path of der Freischutz
I see little difference in such a road, we would win but at what cost
The same one as angela and roland when they fail to grow past their pain
I refuse for us to become like them
We have time
We will succeed
We will faill again and again until we find our path to victory
And we need not become like the very destroyers we locked up to do so
We need not lose our humanity
We need only acheive victory once, doesn't matter how long it takes or how many times we fail
We learn from each one and became wiser
 
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We do have access to a form of the time track in homura
Meaning we have all the time we need to get things right

Just as a little precision, if you're thinking of her time travel power, she can only access it during walmartnight, more precisely, it unlocks when her hourglass (the one in her shield), becomes empty when she reach the time when she wished originally. What this means is that we can't turn back before reaching the end and that this is not something we want to do, at all, it's very much a lose condition for the moral of the quest.

Requirements that are so utterly abhorrent. The Adult for an easy example.

We have absolutely no idea of the Adult's requirements, we can infer them, but until we actually see them, this is pure speculation and should be presented as such, not as facts.

I also wants to point out that we actually never put getting any of the sapling's conditions in any level of high priority, we never actually got out of our way to even try to unlock one, they all just happened due to our normal behavior, it is not impossible for us to find alternate ways that are more palatable if we wanted to.

It's just that getting stronger is not that much of a priority.
 
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Agreed
It would be a defeat but like I said we need only win once
And ultimately none of us know what the future holds so who can say for certain I am only the guy who is keeping the various worst case scenarios in mind to remain vigilant and point to opportunities that could help
 
Ok, So, What if we encounter say, The magical girl of Love and Hatred, and she's about to Witch-out meltdown, So we 'kill' her but since abnormalities are immortal, does that count?
 
...So meme, remember when I said about relying lobotomy?
there's no deal like this exist in this world, It is still dangerous, unknown and I very much like to keep the usage to minimal and I don't really want to rely on it for everything we do, because It will make it a crutch.
I really don't want to have this god damned argument again about lobotomy So please stop treating it like fix everything button, keep it as the last resort as it should be.
God damn, Every few chapter you guys just fall back to treating it as okay, we can just use it to fix everything and every problem we have. But no, please stop treating it like that. It is very much very likely to be a Plague doctor situation.
 
That's what I said.

It's NEVER gonna happen. Because for it to happen means that WE FUCKED UP [[BIG TIME]].

We are NOT resorting to resets, a mechanic we aren't even aware of whether we can do or not. So kiss your dreams of obtaining fucked up requirements good bye because we aren't gonna let the idea of obtaining them happens in the first place.

We have absolutely no idea of the Adult's requirements, we can infer them, but until we actually see them, this is pure speculation and should be presented as such, not as facts.

That's the same damn thought process that got us Der Fruity and like 30 chapters of being unable to use his darn E.G.O.
I didn't think things through when I thought of pursuing Big Bird but now looking at the patterns of all the Abnormalities and their requirements, I should have foreseen that it would require SAVE.

We SHOULD be able to at the very least predict what their requirements will be after having 6 Saplings.

As for purposefully going after them. We don't have the time for it. The 3 that we can dedicate an action to, Der Fruity, P Bird, and Big Bird are all unreasonable in terms of what they want.

Comeuppance WILL result in someone dying.
We aren't even aware of what Der Fruity needs.
Big Bird is just no.

We already said that we will attempt to go to a vacation to try to take a shot at activating Porccubus. So it's not like we don't try to steer X towards obtaining the E.G.O.

They just aren't things that you can "chase" after.
 
Ok, but can we try destroying one of Kyubeys bodies? Like, for science? Can we state 'this is an experiment' and then absolutely demolish a Kyubey and see if Comeuppance is fulfilled?
 
Mayhaps we should table this debate?
It is quite clear we all feel strongly on this matter
Let us continue this once it's relevant
But both sides have a point
Loss conditions exist for our 'happily ever after' but lobotomy is not something we should use as a crutch unless we wish to potentially break the kids
 
.......Well it already has tried to attack indirectly in a sense and purposefully allowed those we cared about to be endangered
Does that count?
 
No.

We can just ask about it after the meeting or tomorrow.

Though given how Nothing There is having a meet-up with The Adult, I think we should be more worried about the on coming storm than anything.
 
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