That's the thing though Lobotomy deals with the mind ie the brain and as the existence of pale and white damage shows, mind and soul are 2 different things in the moon verse
So of course it comes from the body that's where the brain ie mind is, we have nothing that interacts with souls ie the gems
I'm sorry, but I will have to disagree.
Chapter 42:
The inner contents of the Grief Seed finally spill out, and you fight the urge to vomit at what you see. Instead of the normal branches of radiant light, gleaming with each precious memory and cherished emotion, a fountain of cancerous blackness pours forth into a disgusting tower.
Lobotomy works just as normal on a Seed.
Not to forget that we literally cleanse the Girls Gems when we only interacted with their trees which spring from their bodies.
"When you say something that wasn't supposed to be there, were you referring to Grief? I didn't cleanse my Soul Gem, and yet it's completely clear."
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But yeah the current discussion re:Wishing is too interesting for me not to want to take part.
From my position wishing for X has a few too many "If's" and "maybe's" to ever be anything other than an unneccesary risk.
Also I'd very much like if we could help the girls without needing to buy into QB's system.
Would just be narratively stronger I feel if we do not need to endanger ourselves (and the world by extension in our case) like the kids in order to help them out of the MG-Witch system.
ProjMoon's humanity didn't need Aliens to achieve any of their things.
And X wants to defy the City with every breath.
WE of all people have NO need to fail by coming up lesser than the fucking City.
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Also something about Madokami I just thought of and would like opinions on.
This is highly speculative, but I still find it worth it to throw into the discussion.
With what later materials revealed I wonder if Madokami ain't that great as originally presented actually.
Mainly because Wraith Arc (A Story set between Series and Rebellion) AFAIK shows that Madokami is constantly fighting Ultimate Gretchen (the witch that could devour the Universe and Madokami's own witch) in a permanent manner due to the simple paradox of her wish.
She kills all the Witches by absorbing the MG's at the moment of their fall -> at the end of time she turns into a Witch -> her prior self arrives and kills that Witch -> that prior self witches out -> her prior self arrives again and kills that witch -> repeat ad infinitum
Which is all fine and well, but we know from later material that "Wish Rejection" is a thing.
So I worry if Madokami by canon mechanics would have an actual chance to eventually regret her wish; regret it; thus lose her ability to paradox throwdown with her own Witch; and then the Universe is eaten by Ultimate Gretchen with no saving throw because there is no time for Madoka to find her resolve again.
The End of Rebellion is not that great because the Universe is now run by an unstable and yandere Demiurge and thus has little stability to speak of.
But unless I missed something Madokami would also have an actual Failure state upon which the world would have become eternal unending despair.
Felt this relevant with the notion re:Wishing that it worked out for Madoka in the end and wanted to see what others think.
