Magical Girl Quest - The Fire That Burns

She moves her eyes away from you, though she stays standing where she is, resting her weight on one foot. "It's umm, a Gaia thing." She takes a deep breath, you hear her say under her breath why me. "For whatever reason, whenever girls are made into Magical Girls, she always uhh, tweaks their preferences." She hastily continues before you can react. "You can still like guys, yeah. Just, you'know. Yeah." I think I want to die
Okaaay, that's not slightly messed up. I mean at least it didn't change Cerys but regardless... ugh.

[X] You must be close to the border now, if you push quickly you can probably make it today
Yeah, I want to got moving we're already behind forest bro's timeline I think.
 
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[X] You must be close to the border now, if you push quickly you can probably make it today
-[X] Try to increase your heat senses fidelity as you walk. It would be nice to know what your seeing.

There a a lot more reaching effects to this than "Enables Yuri" It's kind of an important note
Spartan band of brothers thing? Meh, maybe.
 
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@Rukia Since Gaia killed a MG in the past and you said we were the third MG, does that mean there is only one of our predecessors left?

Is she The One Who Stands Above?
Rukia said:
[] The One Who Stands Above - You've already reached your peak, you won't gain new powers, only new ways to leverage your existing ones. (Easiest) Season Ten Character
 
"Your intentions leak into your magic and if you know how to read that, it can tell you a lot about someone."
Yup. Like I thought. We may say "Sister", but our magic and spirit say "Daughter."

There's something... very touching about that. In a way that makes me want to give Cerys a big old hug.


"If you didn't like girls before, you do now."
Yes, it is.
Gaia is not human and doesn't care.

There a a lot more long reaching effects to this than "Enables Yuri"
It's kind of an important note
Perhaps, but speculation is pointless without more data points. Not to mention we might not know data points even if they slapped us in the face just due to not having been Cerys before she Awoke.
 
if we ever meet an avatar of gaia, during the talk i'm expecting cerys to constantly go 'damnit gaia, stop being a perverted old woman!' in her head
 
[X] Questions
-[X] So... Magical Girl? How did that happen?
-[X] Where are we going?
-[X] Why are we going there?
-[X] Neat, had any cool magical stuff happen to you? Tell me about it.
I think you have your questions confused. These are questions to ask her.

@Rukia Since Gaia killed a MG in the past and you said we were the third MG, does that mean there is only one of our predecessors left?

Is she The One Who Stands Above?
Ah, you are the third who was made recently. My mistake.
There have been dozens over the course of history.

ATM there is only you and another, the first did something she should not have.
 
First of all, I notice we never really asked what her magic does exactly.

Secondly, it is late and I will think about what to do tomorrow.
Knowing my fellow players, there will be something good here by the time I get up.
 
First of all, I notice we never really asked what her magic does exactly.

Secondly, it is late and I will think about what to do tomorrow.
Knowing my fellow players, there will be something good here by the time I get up.
Naron: *Wink wink, nudge nudge*

Everyone else: "... Wut?"

Naron: :rolleyes: "Make a plan without me."

Everyone else: "Ooooohhhh. Nah. We can wait for you."

Naron: :facepalm: :jackiechan: :V
 
I guess it REALLY did want that fire... huh. Still seems kind of surreal.

[X] Questions
-[X] So... You know anything about the spirit of the land for (insert spirit general area)?
-[X] What specifically can you do with magic.
-[X] Can anybody learn magic or do you have to have some innate ability.
-[X] Are you fireproof? I can make fire not burn you, but that's the kind of thing you want to know before demons attack.
-[X] What do Magic users usually do for money? What roles do magic users fill in a community, do they sell magical stuff? Fend of monster attacks? Talk to pissed off spirits?
-[X] If I use my powers to make money do I need to get a magic license? In the US? Canada? What about over in Europe? Can I make money with magic?
-[X] I haven't heard of magic as a real thing until less than a week ago, Do I have to keep my powers secret, if not why hasn't anyone made a bigger deal out of this?
-[X] So baby dragon, wanna tell me the whole story. Sounds cool.
 
[X] Questions
-[X] So... You know anything about the spirit of the land for (insert spirit general area)?
-[X] What specifically can you do with magic.
-[X] Can anybody learn magic or do you have to have some innate ability.
-[X] Are you fireproof? I can make fire not burn you, but that's the kind of thing you want to know before demons attack.
-[X] What do Magic users usually do for money? What roles do magic users fill in a community, do they sell magical stuff? Fend of monster attacks? Talk to pissed off spirits?
-[X] If I use my powers to make money do I need to get a magic license? In the US? Canada? What about over in Europe? Can I make money with magic?
-[X] I haven't heard of magic as a real thing until less than a week ago, Do I have to keep my powers secret, if not why hasn't anyone made a bigger deal out of this?
-[X] So baby dragon, wanna tell me the whole story. Sounds cool.
 
Now all we need is Sinarblood to make a small 20 word word post saying "Good job, I liked it" and hell will have frozen over completely.
Hmm... If I make Hell freeze over that would probably make demons conceptually linked with ice instead of fire.

On one hand that means that our fire attacks probably would do more damage.

On the other hand, them using ice against us instead would mean that their attacks which would have been fire before no longer would do primarily heat damage, which is something we are resistant to, making a fight against a fire turned ice demon more dangerous for us.

And of course we'd have to take into account the different themes and abilities linked to the concepts of ice and fire and analyze which is more terrifying.

I'll have to think on this :V.

Well since this post has already exceeded 20 words might as well use it to talk about the chapter.

If I decide to freeze hell over I'll do it another time :p.

"Compressing your magic like that is one way of doing it, but I really wouldn't recommend it for the long term." A pause as she takes a particularly long leap from a fallen tree to higher up the hill, jumping further than humanly possible. "It's a reliable way of hiding exactly how much magic you have at basically any range, but it's still possible to tell that you have magic. It's why I didn't notice how powerful you were until you stopped."

So perhaps I should have come up with a specific exercise than a more blank "experiment how to do so".

Should have taken into account that she knew that more rudimentary way (supression/compression) and considered that Cerys might have just have decided to go with that. It also doesn't really help with hiding magic when it is used or any excess magic that is expelled when magic is used, only makes it harder to tell how much magic you have.

She thinks about it for a moment before letting out an ahh. "Oh yeah, I'd completely forgotten about since I thought you knew. My bad." She hops down at least three metres and lands without issue. "The longer and more powerful magic you use, the stronger your body grows in proportion, usually. It's not always the case but in general you can pull off minor feats of magical strength on your own, nowhere near what you can do with magic, but it helps."

While we knew that we could attain superhuman strength out of character, knowing that we can do so in character without magic is good because once we are in a slightly safer spot it means we can start learnining how to do so.

"You can learn others magic of course, but it's almost always better to make your own, better suited for you."

So Morgan is good for ideas of types of magic we can do, and can give an example and guide us, but our methods have to be our own, noted.

"That's not normal Cerys, magic is hard to pull to you and use. It shouldn't be pressing you to contain it." She lets out a little hum. "I guess this is just a Magical Girl thing? The only other things like that I can think of are really powerful magical creatures. They just let their magic seep out of them and saturate the area around though, not exactly good for hiding."

While Cerys doesn't know to do so in character, once she does, we should really be careful and try to minimize this belief. Having every new magical girl spew magic related to their affinities uncontrollably when they transform for the first time, and until they actually manage to find a way to suppress it… would not be fun.


Also it occurs to me that for Cerys using thermal kinesis doesn't feel like it uses magical energy but instead is draining mentally, as such we should probably check with Morgan whether or not she can use her magic senses to sense it is used or not, since from our perspective it is an ability that doesn't use magic.

If we have an ability that we can use that can't be picked up by most magical senses would be useful to know.


When you leave the forest.
Which is like... two, three miles across the border?
Oh God. That means that the fire will start on Canadian soil.

The country is probably not going to be happy about that if it links it to us at any point before knowledge of magic and our reasoning is unveiled, and probably not going to be too thrilled even then.

Of course, it also means that a fire that starts in Canada, that the US military might still link to us and absent that, if they do conclude it was an unnatural fire, razed hundreds of miles of American land (very well probably over a thousand square miles actually seeing how we travelled over two hundred miles north and it isn't like the forest only stretches a few miles to the east and west) well doing a significantly less damage to Canada, with only a bit of the forest being in Canada.

Will they think this is a hostile move now that Canada has stronger ties to Britannia again then to the US?

If the US demands that the terroist be brought to them to attain justice, and they have to give our image and their not-so-rock-solid evidence that we are the ones that caused any of the fires (being seen on camera's moving toward one of the areas that was lit on fire and running away from the other, they don't have actually photo evidence or anything other than conjunture that we actually started those fires after all), well Canada might not look kindly at the idea of turning over children when there isn't enough evidence, and the situation between the two countries are already souring…

That on top of there already being disappearances near the Canadian/US border …

Well I already knew burning down the forest would result in fun.

This is going to be great if we burn the forest down.



Terrible, yes but Great.

Of course depending on how soon the existence of magic becomes more common knowledge, this can be greatly mitagated. With the First fire stopping a demonic incursion, the forest fire being asked for by a being that technically could be equated to being the land, with the promise not to harm humans. The second fire is the real thing we would have to spin.

With scientists going to an area that a magical creature just woke up from in scotland (one of those being invited by what was probably magical means), and the demons going off to look for the missing one, and the fact that people are now becoming less sure some things are hoaxes as seen here:

There have been strange events being reported recently. People appearing and then disappearing or a strange light flowing from nowhere. Most of these events have been reported over the American continent, with the recent disappearances happening at the northern border it is expected that the majority of these are hoaxes looking for attention. Some worth needs to be put to these words as a short recording was recovered from the recent terrorist attack.

It shows the town before the fire consumed everything. It is a short recording of street that is covered in bodies and damaged buildings. The clip only manages to show a person running down the street, covered in blood before an enormous shadow falls over the camera and destroys it. It has been speculated that this is a hoax of some sort, but it is thought of as unlikely, as the recording was leaked by military analysts located in the attacked town.

in the world news chapter, as well as the light shines boosting some world rolls for the better… it might just be more common knowledge quickly enough for things to not fully ignite.

It's a gamble really.

Not that turning down the Spirit of the Land's request when it saved our lives won't result in possible consequences in the magical community, or amongst other such spirits, or any magical creature if it communes with them. It will be simply fun in another sense. Not to mention the guilt of not completing a request by a being that helped us for no real reason Cerys could think of when Cerys is not used to people helping her at all.

Of course I somewhat expect that the spirit had it reasons (and that getting us to burn down the forest might only have been one of them), but I digress…

ATM there is only you and another, the first did something she should not have.

Interesting



As for the vote: In typical Sinar fashion I'll steal most of the current vote and add my own additions :V.

[X] Questions
-[X] So... You know anything about the spirit of the land for (insert spirit general area)?
--[X] Tell Morgan about how the Spirit of the land had asked you to burn down the forest, and that you had made sure to check to make sure that it would ensure no one would be caught in it. Ask for her opinion on this, and let her know that you are seriously considering it. Ask her what possible consequences could arise from not doing so.
-[X] What specifically can you do with magic.
-[X] Can anybody learn magic or do you have to have some innate ability.
-[X] Are you fireproof? I can make fire not burn you, but that's the kind of thing you want to know before demons attack.
-[X] What do Magic users usually do for money? What roles do magic users fill in a community, do they sell magical stuff? Fend of monster attacks? Talk to pissed off spirits?
-[X] If I use my powers to make money do I need to get a magic license? In the US? Canada? What about over in Europe? Can I make money with magic?
-[X] I haven't heard of magic as a real thing until less than a week ago, Do I have to keep my powers secret, if not why hasn't anyone made a bigger deal out of this?
-[X] So baby dragon, wanna tell me the whole story. Sounds cool.
-[X] My thermal-Kinesis doesn't really feel like it uses magical energy for me, but is mentally draining instead. Can you sense my thermokinesis when I use it?
--[X] If needed use it to conjure a small ball of flame as an example.

Added:
--[] Tell Morgan about how the Spirit of the land had asked you to burn down the forest, and that you had made sure to check to make sure that it would ensure no one would be caught in it. Ask for her opinion on this, and let her know that you are seriously considering it. Ask her what possible consequences could arise from not doing so.

Because having a non-Cerys opinion on this in character would be useful and while Morgan's knowledge of magic and magical creature isn't omniscient at all, having an idea of some of the possible consequences of not listening to it would be good.

and

-[] My thermal-Kinesis doesn't really feel like it uses magical energy for me, but is mentally draining instead. Can you sense my thermokinesis when I use it?
--[] If needed use it to conjure a small ball of flame as an example.

For reasons already mentioned

[X] If compression isn't a good idea in the long run for hiding magic, try instead to hide magic in a different way. Your magic has always seemed like a flame and when it isn't caged ignites everything on fire around you. You have made flame invisible before. Try to imagine your magic like a flame, and try to imagine making it invisible, except to magical senses instead of sight? The center of the flame, where it burns hotest (the greatest concentrations of your magic) invisible, with at most the outer edges (the weaker fringes) visible, though with time, you hope to even make them disappear.

The idea here is to equate the ability to hide from magical senses to an ability we have already succeeded in doing, and since I doubt we'd get it all supressed right away, it is thought of in a way that get the biggest concentrations of magic to fade of the radar, and have only the weaker parts be "visible". Over time (as the skill levels) less and less will become visible and it would become harder and harder for other people or creatures to sense (they'd need higher magic sensing skills), the impression we make getting more and more faint the higher we master the skill.

[X] See if you can overcome the mental block that makes working on thermal-Kinesis at a distance harder to focus on. Being able to stop the military from shooting at you, or fouling up their aim from afar would be very useful to protect Una, yourself, and Morgan.

Of course the names are in order of importance for Cerys :V

Normally I'd just have done just the "hide your magical signature" thing but with us being so close to the border, this is a weakeness that I am willing to risk the magic hiding ability taking a bit longer actually manage.

Being able to use thermal kinesis anywhere within a 700m radius of us with relative ease is too tempting to have when we are so rapidly approaching the end of this arc (maybe :V)



[] You must be close to the border now, if you push quickly you can probably make it today
[] There is no rush, you'll get there eventually
Hmm to suffer an increase in DC for magic practice, and possibly tire the three of us out if found during todays treck

Or to go slower, have us more energized if we run into danger but risk the noose closing completely on the border situation…

I am honestly not sure.

If someone wants to they can probably convince me to switch, but for now.

[X] You must be close to the border now, if you push quickly you can probably make it today

We've been stressing the need to get going for a while now, so…
 
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[X] If compression isn't a good idea in the long run for hiding magic in the long run, try instead to hide magic in a different way. Your magic has always seemed like a flame and when it isn't caged ignites everything on fire around you. You have made flame invisible before. Try to imagine your magic like a flame, and try to imagine making it invisible, except to magical senses instead of sight? The center of the flame, where it burns hotest (the greatest concentrations of your magic) invisible, with at most the outer edges (the weaker fringes) visible, though with time, you hope to even make them disappear.

The idea here is to equate the ability to hide from magical senses to an ability we have already succeeded in doing, and since I doubt we'd get it all supressed right away, it is thought of in a way that get the biggest concentrations of magic to fade of the radar, and have only the weaker parts be "visible". Over time (as the skill levels) less and less will become visible and it would become harder and harder for other people or creatures to sense (they'd need higher magic sensing skills), the impression we make getting more and more faint the higher we master the skill.
Might be worth it to go at it from a "heat" angle. Matching our "heat" to the background. "Heat" in this case being magic, if that wasn't obvious.
 
[x] Sinarblood

Insightful as always.

@Sinarblood We should ask about the knowledge of magic amongst the general populace. Something along the lines of "Is there a masquerade in place?"

As for our thermokinesis, maybe it's a psychic ability?
 
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Might be worth it to go at it from a "heat" angle. Matching our "heat" to the background. "Heat" in this case being magic, if that wasn't obvious.
Ultimately it depends on your preference. Both that and the invisible flame method would have different advantages and disadvantages.

I imagine how well your method works will depend on how good we get at matching the "heat" to the environment.


Let's say we use magic and it spreads across an area.

With your method, a person who is specialized in analysing the "texture" of magic might be able to realize when going into or approaching the area that something is wrong, and be able to piece together and see the entirety of the magically remains.

On the other hand they under my method they might not have been able sense the tinier remains of my method at all.

On the other hand someone who specialized in sensing even the tiniest amount of magic might be able to sense the small embers, but not have refined enough senses to see through your method.


I'd argue that the greatest benefit of my method is that it is one that is meant to functionally work better where our magic is strongest, so if a foe does sense the spell, they would have a much harder time sensing the "core" of the spell and so it might be able to obscure what the spell actually does for someone who refined their sense enough to tell. They might be able to get a sense from the weaker portions, but not necessarily enough to come to a conclusion on the specifics, whereas if they refined their senses in a way that allows them to sense your method, they'd be able to sense it all, rather than just parts.

That doesn't necessarily mean that my method is actually stronger though. Just that they have different strengths.


Though I honestly like the imagery involved better, which honestly is the main reason I will probably stick to mine :V

(I don't necessarily make all my decisions on what is mechanically the best choice)

If you prefer the "heat" connection method and think it will work better, feel free to vote for it instead.
 
Ultimately it depends on your preference. Both that and the invisible flame method would have different advantages and disadvantages.

I imagine how well your method works will depend on how good we get at matching the "heat" to the environment.


Let's say we use magic and it spreads across an area.

With your method, a person who is specialized in analysing the "texture" of magic might be able to realize when going into or approaching the area that something is wrong, and be able to piece together and see the entirety of the magically remains.

On the other hand they under my method they might not have been able sense the tinier remains of my method at all.

On the other hand someone who specialized in sensing even the tiniest amount of magic might be able to sense the small embers, but not have refined enough senses to see through your method.


I'd argue that the greatest benefit of my method is that it is one that is meant to functionally work better where our magic is strongest, so if a foe does sense the spell, they would have a much harder time sensing the "core" of the spell and so it might be able to obscure what the spell actually does for someone who refined their sense enough to tell. They might be able to get a sense from the weaker portions, but not necessarily enough to come to a conclusion on the specifics, whereas if they refined their senses in a way that allows them to sense your method, they'd be able to sense it all, rather than just parts.

That doesn't necessarily mean that my method is actually stronger though. Just that they have different strengths.


Though I honestly like the imagery involved better, which honestly is the main reason I will probably stick to mine :V

(I don't necessarily make all my decisions on what is mechanically the best choice)

If you prefer the "heat" connection method and think it will work better, feel free to vote for it instead.
... Why not both?
 


That is a good point. Take the strengths of both of them to help cover their weaknesses.

I am not trying to do too many different magic things right now (since we are probably going to be pushing forward hard right now, and because the less things we are practicing the better the DC is) so I'll probably keep the vote as is now (at least one way to obscure magic use is needed).


but sometime within the next 1-3 training sessions we can add the "heat" method in, analyze their actually differences in the quest, and eventually try to fold the two skills together.
 
The reason magic is like this is because if anything is possible then there is no 'perfect' way to hide magic. Because someone else can come up with a 'perfect' way to find said magic.
 


That is a good point. Take the strengths of both of them to help cover their weaknesses.

I am not trying to do too many different magic things right now (since we are probably going to be pushing forward hard right now, and because the less things we are practicing the better the DC is) so I'll probably keep the vote as is now (at least one way to obscure magic use is needed).


but sometime within the next 1-3 training sessions we can add the "heat" method in, analyze their actually differences in the quest, and eventually try to fold the two skills together.
Dammit sinar. I just gave you the perfect chance to go under 20 words. *pouts*
 
But I haven't yet decided if ice demons or fire demons are better possible opponents.

Hell freezing over has too big a possible impact on the quest to cause too lightly :V
 
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