[X] Yog
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Exactly 0.000002 seconds after the Masquerade goes down
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
The Masquerade is not going to last much longer, either through malice or misadventure.
One way or another, the truth will be revealed within a relatively short timeframe. Expecting otherwise is naive.
With that in mind, we can make the choice to do it ourselves, though in a carefully controlled manner with assistance from the Faerie Courts and any other allies we can convince to provide assistance. It's better to guide the narrative than let it run about freely.
The Masquerade can last a literally arbitrary amount of time because it's sustained by mankind. While the winter Queen makes it easy for the Masquerade to stay. Inherently no misadventure or malice can break the Masquerade by itself mankind needs to reckon with and acknowledge and fully interact with magic as an extant phenomenon for it to break.
Which considering the government has the Library of Congress but the law enforcement refused to acknowledge magic exists (FBI, Daedalus) this still a long period of time off.
Keep in mind if pure malice was enough then the Masquerade already be broken a major city had a not insignificant portion of its population deleted in a single night with thousands more injured. Yet the Masquerade remains. So minor accidents or incidents revealing the Masquerade are a complete non-starter.
This is before the fact that there are many human and non-human actors attempting to discredit anything that might damage the Masquerade the red and white court and the winter fairies among them.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Say what? Since when is the Masquerade an SEP field generated by the collective Human consciousness?
Is that something imported over from the Exalted side of the setting? I don't remember any such thing being mentioned in the Dresden Files setting or by @DragonParadox up to this point.
No, it is cultural, as Harry says people do not want to know, but there are some limits on that. However the limits are higher than one might think. I mean put it this way, the reason the Accords were founded is because the city of Milwaukee vanished in 1994. Two hours the whole city gone, not on satellites, roads ended in trackless forest, then back.
[X] Plan Equal Exchange
-[X] Try to negotiate them down
—[X] BSM, FPoR, SCCP, excellency
-[X] Offer protection for the territory in exchange for their assistance in hiding our presence.
—[X] As in, they will interfere with any efforts made to find our people or facilities in the area unless they're being directly escorted by one of our people identifying them as okay.
-[X] [Stunt]: As she took a deep breath with her human body, Molly's world seemed to move in sympathy.
—[X] A shiver pulsed through the courts, an alignment of forces as an entire world shifted part of its focus here. a gust of wind crossed the portal, a huff of air from impossible lungs.
—[X] When she spoke it was not with a mortal voice. It was the songs of distant birds, of wind in odd leaves, of strange seasons turning in their own harmonies. Each combining just the right way to form words in the oldest of languages as they echo through the portal.
-[X] Try to negotiate them down
—[X] BSM, FPoR, SCCP, excellency
-[X] Offer protection for the territory in exchange for their assistance in hiding our presence.
—[X] As in, they will interfere with any efforts made to find our people or facilities in the area unless they're being directly escorted by one of our people identifying them as okay.
-[X] [Stunt]: As she took a deep breath with her human body, Molly's world seemed to move in sympathy.
—[X] A shiver pulsed through the courts, an alignment of forces as an entire world shifted part of its focus here. a gust of wind crossed the portal, a huff of air from impossible lungs.
—[X] When she spoke it was not with a mortal voice. It was the songs of distant birds, of wind in odd leaves, of strange seasons turning in their own harmonies. Each combining just the right way to form words in the oldest of languages as they echo through the portal.
Dragon Paradox is already said it but it's not an SEP field. What I meant was the Masquerade the cultural element the reality of the supernatural being hidden is sustained because Humanity doesn't want to deal with the supernatural at all they don't want to deal with the world where vampires Wizards fairies and other fucked up and unexplainable shit exist.
In deadbeat 20,000 people in a city of 3 million straight up die with thousands more injured. While a Wizard riding T-Rex running down the street to prevent the ritual that's possibly gotten 20,000 or so people killed from getting worse. The Masquerade remains.
Now there are a lot of significant setting actors doing a lot to discredit any source that might damage the masquerade like say the Reds going on TV to discredit videos taken or broader cultural influences like calling Superstition well Superstition things to be ignored something not real also does a lot to strengthen the masquerade.
Though on the whole of it people are just willing to say so what a Milwaukee vanished for 2 hours it's fine it was there when I came back in the morning so obviously it didn't disappear that must have been a hallucination or a gas leak or an illusion projected via swamp gas anything that isn't Magic. As Long as That Remains true the Masquerade can remain.
You're right on this, but I think there's some potential value in a soft landing for the Masquerade.
Changing the nature of the lie being told could make it more capable of supporting an equitable environment.
Sure the truth would be better, but if the governments at large think that reds are blood drinking aliens they can at least have a blood drinking alien policy.
Oh I fully agree. I was just contesting the point or very least the idea that the Masquerade being broken is inevitable or that it can accidentally be undone. I fully believe that we should set the narrative for how it happens but the belief that it will happen no matter what and that we need to set that narrative before we are truly ready is at least in this moment untrue.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
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Arc 15 Post 30: Of Spirits and Spies
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Of Spirits and Spies
3rd of March 2007 A.D.
It is going to be hard enough getting land rights in what some sources call 'the greatest concentration of isolated groups in the Amazon and the world' without trying to claim several hundred square miles worth of land around the site. On the other hand you remember the pigeons. Land spirits want someone to protect them from the the dangers of encroaching humanity yes, but they also remember what they have lost. "I will restore those who-re not. Safety in obscurity..." From the scurrying mouse to the crouching jaguar all know when it is time to hide, so that is what you send them though your other self, the understanding that the more you guard openly the more hunters come, but here in the land at the edge of the known where green shadows still fall thickest there are many fallen who may yet be restored.
Unseen figures, some so small you might step on some so large as to look you almost in the eye and one, just one so large it looks above move on the other side of the veils, ripples in the mundane skein of the world.
From the moment you came up with this the worry that it might prove a gap too far to explain, but what you had forgotten is that for the people of Sanctuary genetics isn't a thing of bright white laboratories and spotless vials, of droppers and bio-reactive fluids. To the world you rule genetics is a branch of sorcery with shamanic shapeshifting and the fertility rites that assures rights to water and hunting grounds though lost ages.
To restore life through life, that is known, that is accepted, that they understand from Sophia's open mind and so they rise into the air like kites woven of gossamer dreaming only to grow and grow in physicality, sighs to thunder songs to rain. It doesn't take long for the wind you had hoped for to start wiping about.
"Er... wouldn't someone notice if we started bringing back extinct animals?" Sophia asks, already needing to raise her voice by the question's end.
"They will just think there was a relict population somewhere, I think that is what they're called," you answer.
"We'll have them all found in December and have them called a Christmas miracle, it's hardly the strangest thing that people have learned to ignore."
As the helicopters land you focus inward again, your eye upon a different one and ask: "Why gave the order?"
One name and one Internet search later you have your next link, unfortunately it's a general in the Colombian Army and the brother of head of the Administrative Department of Security, a very mild sort of name for what is as far as you are able to tell at a glance a combination of the CIA, FBI, NSA and Secret Service, four tastes that do not go great together.
Later that day over a large cup of magic laced coffee you find that the director of the DSA, Augustin, is already mired in a scandal linking him to dealings with paramilitary forces and drug dealers. The later of which no doubt deal in a rather exotic drug. On the one hand it should be fertile ground for inserting your own fabricated evidence, on the other thing looks disturbingly like a powder keg that could go off if you aren't careful. Journalists are already going missing and there is talk of protesters and activists being silenced.
Fortunately you don't have to walk into this blind. "Hi, Martin I need some advice on Colombian politics..."
"Coup?" A syllable that sends a shiver down your spine.
"What, no I just need two people removed so they won't interfere with my operations."
"It's never just two people, the Reds aren't stupid," you can hear something like sympathy in his words, but it's so faint only the way your mind is still hyper-aware of every inflection picks it up. "They'll have compromised their likely successors as well. Military, police and secret service is where they like to get their hooks in. Their usual cover is cartels, the signs are similar enough so that if someone does get caught they'll just 'vanish abroad' or in cases where the thrall is already in mundane custody they'll get to them and push them to suicide. So the question is how many people are you willing to kill for this?"
[] As many as it takes (Continue with the plan, expand it to include all back ups)
[] Why kill them when I can cure them, I refuse to believe that most of them want to work for the Red Court knowing what they are (Use FSB)
[] Write in
OOC: Enjoy.
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Silvereagle21
Soaring through the Sky
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
[X] As many as it takes (Continue with the plan, expand it to include all back ups)
- Location
- Perth, Scotland
- Pronouns
- He/Him
"Coup" is only a single syllable (KOO), unless Martin is pronouncing it some really unusual way.
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- Pronouns
- She/Her
Imma be honest, I was really confused until I went back and read the edited last chapter.
Personally I don't care about killing infected/bribed politicians but also like, Molly is less jaded about humans than I am so she would probably go with the deals thing?
[X] Why kill them when I can cure them, I refuse to believe that most of them want to work for the Red Court knowing what they are (Use FSB)
Personally I don't care about killing infected/bribed politicians but also like, Molly is less jaded about humans than I am so she would probably go with the deals thing?
[X] Why kill them when I can cure them, I refuse to believe that most of them want to work for the Red Court knowing what they are (Use FSB)
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[X] As many as it takes (Continue with the plan, expand it to include all back ups)
Come on, you never get to do coups in quests. Its always the moral choice and shit.
But imagine. Colombian people could massively benfit from our assisted rule. It can be the staging ground to introduce our tech and discoveries and give us a massive place to do shit like mega rituals.
All the while we massively massively improve the nation and maybe even the continet.
Although DP might have tred carefully from most of the details or at least fictionlize them enough it doesn't become an issue. Also probably a fair amount of reserch.
But it would be fu
Come on, you never get to do coups in quests. Its always the moral choice and shit.
But imagine. Colombian people could massively benfit from our assisted rule. It can be the staging ground to introduce our tech and discoveries and give us a massive place to do shit like mega rituals.
All the while we massively massively improve the nation and maybe even the continet.
Although DP might have tred carefully from most of the details or at least fictionlize them enough it doesn't become an issue. Also probably a fair amount of reserch.
But it would be fu
[X] As many as it takes (Continue with the plan, expand it to include all back ups)
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Could be fun yes, but I thought we decided to mostly avoid the empire building angle in this quest? So like, this would be a lot of off screen stuff for GM to do and not a lot of interaction for us?