Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

I am fairly sure that, politically speaking, us talking to them is payment in itself.
Maybe not completely, but they certainly don't dislike the fact they're main point of contact between US government and a pro-human Demon Queen with vast national resources, considerable personal power and, crucially, very few attachments with existing actors that normally prevent nations from acting against them.
Also, don't forget Las Vegas.
 
Accomplishments
  • Befriend the new Wardens with help of cookies
  • Beat Carlos ina spar
  • Noticed the spying and counterscryed the shit out of them.
  • Freed a bunch from mind control
  • Told Odin (can't really see how much effect this has in the end)
  • Killed a bunch of lords of outer night and saved the Wardens they ambushed
  • Saved a dying land god.
  • Created a gate in south America.
  • Saved Cyril
  • Kidnapped Horace Shaw and made him sing like a bird before witnesses
  • Talked to Carlos about lawbreakers
  • Played taxi for the Hall assault force.
  • Captured a warlock (Antonio Verdi) in the middle of using a death curse alive and made him name Peabody.
  • Killed Leech things
  • Defused violent altercation with wizards thinking we were vampires.
  • Alerted the Halls to the threat by means most subtle.
  • Shadow Spite curse One eyed Demon
  • Fight with Warlocks and black court vampires. Without any lawbreaking. (Lydia)
  • Captured Peabody and convinced other warlocks to stand down.(Lydia)
  • Foil Namshiel
  • Saved LaFortier
  • Luccio
That's up to post 50.
 
Maybe not completely, but they certainly don't dislike the fact they're main point of contact between US government and a pro-human Demon Queen with vast national resources, considerable personal power and, crucially, very few attachments with existing actors that normally prevent nations from acting against them.
Also, don't forget Las Vegas.
Not completely, yes, but it certainly gives them political weight. They can probably justify additional funding just on the basis of Molly taking them seriously and regularly talking to them.
 
Accomplishments
  • Befriend the new Wardens with help of cookies
  • Beat Carlos ina spar
  • Noticed the spying and counterscryed the shit out of them.
  • Freed a bunch from mind control
  • Told Odin (can't really see how much effect this has in the end)
  • Killed a bunch of lords of outer night and saved the Wardens they ambushed
  • Saved a dying land god.
  • Created a gate in south America.
  • Saved Cyril
  • Kidnapped Horace Shaw and made him sing like a bird before witnesses
  • Talked to Carlos about lawbreakers
  • Played taxi for the Hall assault force.
  • Captured a warlock (Antonio Verdi) in the middle of using a death curse alive and made him name Peabody.
  • Killed Leech things
  • Defused violent altercation with wizards thinking we were vampires.
  • Alerted the Halls to the threat by means most subtle.
  • Shadow Spite curse One eyed Demon
  • Fight with Warlocks and black court vampires. Without any lawbreaking. (Lydia)
  • Captured Peabody and convinced other warlocks to stand down.(Lydia)
  • Foil Namshiel
  • Saved LaFortier
  • Luccio
That's up to post 50.
we also got red court vampires to basically go along with what we said after the lord of outer night killings. We've also found out about who the traitors are thats definitely exp worthy and foiled traitor plots and survived ambushes on us and others. I'd also argue foiling whatever the vampires were doing there was exp worthy.
 
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  • [X] Call on one of your contacts
    -[X] The Library of Congress, they are the government, part of it at least
    [X] Call on one of your contacts
    -[X] The White Council, it is likely to be slow in the wake of the chaos Peabody left in his wake, but everyone trusts them, it just means the Mendozas are going to have to be careful for a few months
    [X] Government files are online these days, unleash IRIS on the relevant databases to produce documentation that might not be watertight but should be good enough
    [X] Multi-Pronged Approach
    -[X] For the short-term, unleash IRIS on the relevant databases to produce false documentation that might not be watertight but should be good enough for now.
    -[X] While IRIS's work should suffice for the immediate future, that is not a long-term solution. For that, you can reach out to the White Council. It is likely to be slow in the wake of the chaos Peabody left in his wake, but everyone trusts them.
    [X] Call on one of your contacts
    -[X] The White Council, it is likely to be slow in the wake of the chaos Peabody left in his wake, but everyone trusts them, it just means the Mendozas are going to have to be careful for a few months
    -[x]"Of course if you want I am willing to extend the hospitality of sanctuary to you well you wait"
    [X] Multi-Pronged Approach
 
Honestly we should probably get exp for no one attacking us when going to pick up harrys daughter it was quite unusual in all honesty that we just had a couple conversations and moved on. Honestly more impactful in my mind than storming the halls of the white council. Sometimes nothing is more than something.
 
we also got red court vampires to basically go along with what we said after the lord of outer night killings. We've also found out about who the traitors are thats definitely exp worthy and foiled traitor plots and survived ambushes on us and others. I'd also argue foiling whatever the vampires were doing there was exp worthy.
I was sort of skimming. I also definitely undervalued many social accomplishments.
 
Does...
"Mendozas are going to have to be careful for a few months"

Mean that they are going to wait right there? Even without Maggie (cause nothing explicitly says she is not included in the 5 people needing paperwork) that sounds like a very bad idea potentially giving her the unnecessary canon tragic backstory of horribly murdered step family. But if she stays as well, this option is straight out unnaccepatle.
Moot point right now, but careful meant careful in the US, not careful in Guatemala.

Like I pointed out, there are 11 million undocumented migrants in the US, and the vast majority manage just fine, to the point of going to work, paying taxes and their children attending university.
Having the Mendozas keep their heads down until their paperwork was processed would have been trivial.
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They don't need control for something like this.
*SNIP*
Very much not the issue. Its not whether they can, its whether they can without drawing undue attention.

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No she did not. She gave us a private number and had us cold-call the Vice-Chair of the Reserve.
There was no introduction, no bona-fides beforehand. Thats why it was a DC10 roll
Knowing the number, or being able to get ahold of it, is a sign of serious connections, but thats not on the

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The Library has repeatedly demonstrated that their reach inside the US govt is limited.
Let us look back at Boston:
Nothing for it... You pick up the phone. Over the next thirty seconds or so you learn all sorts of new German swearwords, good language for it. Once she has calmed down enough to switch to English again she explains that she had argued against deploying any Federal Agents to Boston, but the Secretary of Homeland Security 'in his infinite wisdom' has seen fit to ignore her. "After Vegas ve vere... on thin ice with regard to potential terroristic threat... they vanted to know more ve could not give him answers he wanted so he took Daedalus answers and hammered them in place like round peg in square hole. The agents you met were authorized to deal with akuma but not enter the premises of Basilisk international, but they had tests to run still so if they happened to stumble in using untested technology... they would beg forgiveness later."
The Library is not winning their turf war with Daedalus according to Von Triers.
And an ongoing issue has been Von Triers pointing out that politicians repeatedly ignore guidance

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Von Trier has been explicitly called a sorceress in this quest, and we've seen her use divination/chronomancy, but we've met her, and if she was a wizard we've got good enough Awareness/Occult to be able to tell
And life extension is not exactly unheard of in sorcerers; Armand Tinwhistle AKA Binder is at least 140 years old in canon.

Not sure why you think she's 300 years old either; as I understand it, she's in her 3rd century, which makes her 200+.

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The Library explicitly told us about drawing in their horns post-McCarthy.
Meantime, its word of Butcher that the wizards were responsible for beginning much of the diplomatic contacts during the Cold War, including stuff like the start of arms control talks.

Im pretty confident about older wizards having these contacts because thats what they do.


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The Council has a liaison with the Library.
The Council do not work primarily through the Library.
Those are two different things.
 
[X] Call on one of your contacts
-[X] The Library of Congress, they are the government, part of it at least


I have been convinced. At some point we should do something nice for the Library of Congress, though. They've been nothing but helpful to us, and while it's in their best interests, I'd still like to do something to help them out that won't cost us too much. Maybe they'd like a supply of healing items from Sanctuary; that's helpful and not super difficult for us, without actually supplying weapons.
They'll probably ask for some information on what's been happening recently, which they'd have done anyway.
 
Just on a basic question of commitment, von Trier should have more connections in the US Government than any White Court Wizard I can think of.

The White Council acts internationally, a Librarian can focus on America. If I had to ask for connections to the English government, I'd ask the Merlin, if I had to as for any other country we don't have a direct connection with so far, I'd also ask the Council to help our introduction (or maybe the Church, if it's very Catholic). But America happens to be the one place where the Library has all their stuff.
 
Arc 14 Post 72: Where Borders are Not
Where Borders are Not

21st of February 2007 A.D.

"I think we should do this through the proper channels or at least as close to it as circumstances allow." Huh, Olivia must be rubbing off on me more than judging from how bitter that sounded, you realize. "Sure Lara could swing it, Thomas's sister, but Susan said she was wary of the White Court which is fair enough and as for the Council, their head paper pusher turned out to be working for horrors from beyond the veil of time and space, it's going to take them a while to smooth that over so it might well come down to calling the Library of Congress in the end anyway. That being the case better to do it myself, I have more brownie points stored up from the Vegas thing and the Boston thing."

"The Boston thing?" Susan asks still a little off balance.

"The Wicked City, the Hell of Alienation and exploitation was meddling over here in the States." Aggravating systemic issues that are still going to go off sooner or later, you don't add. This is a happy moment not one to weigh down with all angst for the future.

"So you're sure these are the good guys?" se asks, her look growing more intense. It's not hard to believe she put a bullet though someone's head in Rio now. "Government spooks?"

"For what it's worth they've been around since the government was very different and they take a long view on things. Way I see it if an institution managed to keep the US from declaring war on the Faerie Courts all the way up to the Accords in '94 they have to be doing something right."

"Being good at your job doesn't make you morally upstanding, especially when the job is cover-ups. Trust me I met the whole circus," she counters.

"Maybe not, but it does make one rational, the Library have nothing to gain from playing games with the paperwork and a whole lot to lose."

The conversation is briefly interrupted by the sight of the kids coming down which is when you catch your first glimpse of Maggie hiding behind a slightly older boy who has to be the Mendozas' middle child. She looks a lot like her mother, but there are little hints of her father in her nose and the line of her jaw. This one's going to be a handful, you know with Essence-bought insight. She isn't hiding behind the older kid because she's shy, she's getting a good look at everyone before she ventures out.

For his part Harry is trailing along as though he can't quite believe the literal flesh and blood child here before him, not in a vision or in a plan made half a world away, though he is quick to snap out of it when it comes to the plan. "Even if the ones you talk to are on the level I don't want to risk it getting back to Daedalus."

"Who?"

While Harry and Tiffany gets Susan up to speed on the would be Men-in-Black with dimensional ripping weaponry you marshal your arguments. Fortunetly they are very simple: "Harry the whole thing we are doing here is taking the Mendozas out of hiding. If someone wanted to find the people you cared about they would just have you followed and once they had an adress they could check their documents or lack thereof. You are not a target of opportunity, I'm not sure you ever were but definitely not after what happened last week. If anyone serious goes after you they are going to pull out all the stops."

"That's not a very cheerful thought Molly," he points out, though he's not disagreeing.

"Darn it and I was doing so well."

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Two hours and several thousand miles away —it had taken a bit of cajoling and a lot of explaining to get the family to pass though into Sanctuary to use as a bridge to Chicago, but you're an old hand at it my now— you dial Von Trier's number and explain you need paperwork for five people, two adults three children to be able to live work in the US with way to get citizenship in the process.

"Am I to assume from your tone that these people appeared on US soil recently?" The tone is so neutral is wraps back around to being suggestive.

"Yes, there was cause serious cause for concern regarding their safety in all areas controlled by the Red Court, the family adopted a girl whose mother is an active member of the Fellowship..."

A sigh comes through as a burst of static, loud enough to interrupt. "Is there a problem?"

"Yes, though I can hardly fault you for it. Over the last few years we have been getting constant lobbying from the expected quarters to declare the Fellowship of Saint Giles a terrorist organization. It is not a hard brush to wield unfortunately. Normally we lean on local NGOs to back up their character, especially religious ones. Certain segments of the political establishment are quite fervent in that regard. Over the last month though some outside player has decided to run a smear campaign on Catholic organizations the lines of which I have not seen in decades. One wishes leadership had more sense than that but when one's power depends so stringently upon the masses... Worry not, I can adjust this to being on a cartel hit list without any mention of the Fellowship."

And with that it's done. Your part at least. No doubt Harry will be spending quite a while warding the Mendozas' new home, getting to know his daughter, but for now you have an exorcism to perform and perhaps anoher Po to awaken.

It's been a busy month.



Arc Fourteen Complete

Triumphs
  1. Helped train young wardens 1XP
  2. Successfully dueled Ramirez 1 XP
  3. Discovered Drusus' spell and broke it 2 XP
  4. Made contact with Morgan and Company 1 XP
  5. Dueled a Lord of the Outer Night to the death and impresses upon his former entourage than they should depart 4 XP
  6. Saved a dying god from both the Red Court and destruction 3 XP
  7. Captured of Horace Shaw and Freed Cryrl 2 XP
  8. Unveiled more of the conspiracy 1 XP (Morgan did a lot of the heavy lifting)
  9. Dealt with the mad mage 1 XP
  10. Faught your way into the Hidden Halls 1 XP
  11. Passed though the Warden Ambush without harming them 1 XP
  12. Helped banish a demon lord 2 XP (McCoy did the banishing proper, Carlos was the distraction)
  13. Slew the corpses of ancient wizards/Captured Warlocks/Obtained some genuine surrneders 3 XP
  14. Dealt with Namshiel's thralls breaking the Curse of Mindfire 2 XP
  15. Disocovered the glamor hiding LaFortier and saved his life 2 XP
  16. Drove off Thorned Namshiel, denying him his prize 1 XP
  17. Tracked the Merlin 1 XP
  18. Dealt with thrall wizards 1 XP
  19. Offered insights to Harry which helped in his Enlightenment 2 XP
  20. 'Disarmed' the Veil-breaker 1 XP
  21. Swayed an Angel from her path 2 XP
  22. Refused the temptation of knowledge 1 XP
  23. Slew Drusus in his own Labyrinth 4 XP
  24. Persuaded dead wizards to place themselves in your power 1 XP
  25. Restored a dying god 1 XP
  26. Convinced Senior wizards to use the Book of Laws 2 XP
  27. Lydia persuades ancient knights not to rush into the middle of an unfamiliar war 1 XP
  28. Helped smooth over Harry's meeting with Susan 1 XP
Total XP: 0 (Unspent) + 49 (Earned this Arc) = 49

How do you spend your Experience?

Special
[] Alchemy: The Art of transmutation, not merely of matter, but mind and spirit. To all you have learned from Bob, all you have read in Harry's books the insights of an elder age are added, as steel is alloyed from charcoal and iron (Cost 3XP/Dot)

[] The Sight, birthright and peril for all who are born with a wizard's depth of understanding (Cost 13 XP Discounted by 2)

Mus study with Harry before you can make use of it

[] New Ability 3xp

[] Ancient sorcery spell 10xp

[] Attribute current rating *4xp

[] Ability current rating *2xp

[] Caste Ability current rating *1xp

[] Caste or Favored Charm Charm rating *3xp

[] Other Charm Charm rating *4xp

[] Willpower current rating

[] First dot of a Sorcerer Path 4xp

[] Follow-up dots in a Sorcerer Path current rating *3xp

[]Merit current rating *4xp

[] Remove Touch of Frost
(2 XP)

[] Buy down Nightmares (4 XP)

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OOC: I thought about putting this off until after the exxorcism, but that will not itself give any XP and you guys have been waiting for this a while now so here we are, almost 50 XP for you to spend from the many plots you kicked over this month.
 
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I feel there should be exp for avoiding warden deaths, convincing them to cooperate with us, discovering somewhere around 7 plots this arc, and actually accomplishing the goal of riding the council of traitors that we've known about well over a real life year. Also from preventing senior council deaths.
 
Let's buy at least 1 point in politics and something else. I really hope that we will find experience for this. We are going soon to the territory of mobilization of state resources and Molly will need this.
 
Thank you. Could you direct me to Tiffany-specific buy costs, please? I am having trouble finding them.

Here you go. It's the last table, the one that says 'demon'

I feel there should be exp for avoiding warden deaths, convincing them to cooperate with us, discovering somewhere around 7 plots this arc, and actually accomplishing the goal of riding the council of traitors that we've known about well over a real life year. Also from preventing senior council deaths.

That is in there.
 
Here you go. It's the last table, the one that says 'demon'



That is in there.
I wouldn't call discovering more of the conspiracy as the same thing as dealing with it or finding the Merlin as the same thing as preventing their death. Like let's be clear the council would be at least partially defunct if not for our intervention here they'd likely have multiple senior council members dead and a way way bigger portion of wardens.
 
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