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Reforging the Legions (Warhammer 40K)

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[] Plan Social Engineering Arms Race
-[] Of Fate and the Forgotten (Tzeentch, Imperium): 'Outis the Journeyman' seeks The Thousand Sons in the hopes that sharing sorcerous knowledge might break Tzeentch's hold. Meanwhile the Alpha Legion has been spotted across the Segmentum Pacificus laying the groundwork for...something. The Dark Angels have promised to investigate these things. Best to assist them and try to disrupt whatever plans have been laid.
-[] Word Bearers: The most patient legion, preferring pointed words to swords and bolter. Without the pressures of the Great Crusade you will be able to take better advantage of their strengths. The same hands that build wonders can bring ruin to any foe. Give them purpose and they will work miracles.

[] Plan Big Brain? Meet BIGGER BRAIN!
-[] Of Fate and the Forgotten (Tzeentch, Imperium): 'Outis the Journeyman' seeks The Thousand Sons in the hopes that sharing sorcerous knowledge might break Tzeentch's hold. Meanwhile the Alpha Legion has been spotted across the Segmentum Pacificus laying the groundwork for...something. The Dark Angels have promised to investigate these things. Best to assist them and try to disrupt whatever plans have been laid.
-[] Iron Warriors: Traditionally they were used in meatgrinder sieges and garrison units behind the lines. However this usage ignores the unique strengths this geneline brings to bear. Most notably the gene seed is stable and plentiful alongside with a knack for creative problem solving.
 
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[ ] Plan: Decapitation Strike
- [ ] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)
- [ ] Sons of Horus: This gene seed calls out for red battle, to face the foe and make itself pure once more. They will make fine pathfinders and vanguards for mankind's armies. Let them rally their brothers and mend what bonds have been broken. Has the time for redemption finally come?

Luna Wolves were always pretty good at finding and deleting enemy commanders, I think it would go well for them with Orks and Chaos Champions.
 
[] Plan: Siege Warfare
-[] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne)
-[] Iron Warriors

[]Plan: Spyware Warfare
-[] Of Fate and the Forgotten
-[] Alpha Legion

[] Plan: Rat Exterminators
-[] Triskaidekaphobia (Xenos, Chaos)
-[] Death Guard

[] Plan: Repaying their massive debt
- [] Abominable Intellects (Dark Mechanicus, Legio Cybernetica)
- [] Sons of Horus

[] Plan: Church vs Nobility
-[] The Stormlord (Necrons)
-[] Word Bearers
 
[] Plan: Brutal and Cunning
-[] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)
-[] Iron Warriors: Traditionally they were used in meatgrinder sieges and garrison units behind the lines. However this usage ignores the unique strengths this geneline brings to bear. Most notably the gene seed is stable and plentiful alongside with a knack for creative problem solving.

I think the iron warriors will be perfect for this. They have the knack for creative problem solving that Khorne doesn't have.
 
[] Plan Magic must fight magic
-[] Of Fate and the Forgotten (Tzeentch, Imperium): 'Outis the Journeyman' seeks The Thousand Sons in the hopes that sharing sorcerous knowledge might break Tzeentch's hold. Meanwhile the Alpha Legion has been spotted across the Segmentum Pacificus laying the groundwork for...something. The Dark Angels have promised to investigate these things. Best to assist them and try to disrupt whatever plans have been laid.
-[] Thousand Sons: The awakening of their psykers blunted the growth of this legion. Not merely in number but in their other skills. This gene seed is remarkably adaptable. Shorn from Magnus's grasp what remains is almost a blank slate. Some intellectual tendencies, higher then average rate of marginally weaker psykers, some preternatural perceptiveness, but a relatively unspecialized breed all told.

[] Plan: Siege Warfare
 
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[] Plan: Brutal and Cunning
-[] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)
-[] Iron Warriors: Traditionally they were used in meatgrinder sieges and garrison units behind the lines. However this usage ignores the unique strengths this geneline brings to bear. Most notably the gene seed is stable and plentiful alongside with a knack for creative problem solving.

I think the iron warriors will be perfect for this. They have the knack for creative problem solving that Khorne doesn't have.
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Already made a plan for that
 
[] Pride in Prejudice
-[] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)
-[] Emperor's Children: Fulgrim's children deserved better. Few in number so they learned to excel in all things instead. So it was and so it will be again. This stock demands greatness and brings all it's attendant tragedies. Yet they will never be lesser for it.
 
I wonder what would happen if we sent a traitor legion-chapter to fight against the god of their original legion. It could be an interesting experiment, with a high probability of it coming back to bite us in the ass, but that's what makes in interesting.
 
[] Of Fate and the Forgotten (Tzeentch, Imperium, ???): 'Outis the Journeyman' communes with the Thousand Sons, hoping that their combined sorcerous might can break Tzeentch's hold upon them. Meawnhile the Alpha Legion has begun to withdraw from the Segmentum Pacificus with great haste. For his part the Lion seems to be chasing phantoms rather then the foes at the gates. This will be our only chance to head off the insidious influence of the Architect of Fate. (This crisis will progress in one turn)

[] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)

These are the priorities I believe. But The Orks and Khorne honestly seem more important to me.

[X] Plan: Decapitation Strike
-[X] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)
-[X] Sons of Horus: This gene seed calls out for red battle, to face the foe and make itself pure once more. They will make fine pathfinders and vanguards for mankind's armies. Let them rally their brothers and mend what bonds have been broken. Has the time for redemption finally come?

[X] Plan: Pride in Prejudice
-[X] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)
-[X] Emperor's Children: Fulgrim's children deserved better. Few in number so they learned to excel in all things instead. So it was and so it will be again. This stock demands greatness and brings all it's attendant tragedies. Yet they will never be lesser for it.

[X]Plan: The Myrmidons
-[X] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)
-[X] Alpha Legion: Buried beneath their father's egomaniacal plans lies a deep well of competence. The Alpha Legion is known for their skill at subterfuge but perhaps their most remarkable ability is in coordination. They would have been masters of combined arms, if only they had bothered to try. Too blinded by imagined glory, and too insecure to see their own potential. Set them right.
 
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Chaos, Legions, and Gene Seed
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    • Hermes King said:
    I wonder what would happen if we sent a traitor legion-chapter to fight against the god of their original legion. It could be an interesting experiment, with a high probability of it coming back to bite us in the ass, but that's what makes in interesting.
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    For the purposes of this quest The Chaos Gods don't actually care about what gene seed you have in you. Any astartes can join any Chaos legion and recieve the blessings of their patron. This is especially useful given how often Chaos Warbands need to use non native gene seed. It's the actual Chaos astartes who care about your lineage. With various ones having their own opinions on each geneline.

    When the gods claimed the legions they staked a claim on the name and character of those that existed at the time. Combined with the ascension or death of the Traitor Primarchs and you have a scenario where The Four have shockingly little purchase on any Loyalist descendants.

    So that means you can create a World Eater successor and toss them at Khorne without worrying about The Blood God stealing your dudes or necessarily even noticing the relation.

    There is some higher then average risks that they could fall, but that'd be true with Black Templars, Blood Angels, White Scars, Sons of Horus, Space Wolves, etc..

    There is also a higher then average chance you get to beat them at their own game. Which is awesome. Never forget the Blood Angels consistently handing L's to Khorne despite having about three giant flaws for him to exploit.
     
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    • Dream Logic said:
    There is also a higher then average chance you get to beat them at their own game. Which is awesome. Never forget the Blood Angels consistently handing L's to Khorne despite having about three giant flaws for him to exploit.
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    Ironically enough, said flaws make it harder for Khorne. The Red Thirst and Black Rage provide the Blood Angels plenty of experience with ignoring the sorts of temptations Khorne has on offer.
     
    [] Plan: Until they see the glow of our barrels
    -[] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)
    -[] World Eaters: Before Angron, before the rage and slaughter the War Hounds had been a different breed. Once, they were used an iron fist. A premier mechanized fighting force left to degenerate for lack of supplies. They will always be great warriors, it will be your choices that make them something more.
     
    [ ] Plan: Vermintide removers
    -[] Triskaidekaphobia (Xenos, Chaos): This Xenos(?) empire is currently under watch and containment within the Rho-Dencia system. These 'Skaven' possess thirteen habitable worlds. Including no less four Hive Worlds with commiserate populations. A massive industrial base fed from multiple mining and agriworlds and highly advanced (if unstable) Warptech. Current intelligence suggests that they are entering a period of heightened intraspecies activity. That is to say, interpersonal violence and a veritable orgy of betrayals. (This crisis will progress in ? turns).
    -[] Sons of Horus: This gene seed calls out for red battle, to face the foe and make itself pure once more. They will make fine pathfinders and vanguards for mankind's armies. Let them rally their brothers and mend what bonds have been broken. Has the time for redemption finally come?
     
    [X]Plan: The Myrmidons
    -[X] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)
    -[X] Alpha Legion: Buried beneath their father's egomaniacal plans lies a deep well of competence. The Alpha Legion is known for their skill at subterfuge but perhaps their most remarkable ability is in coordination. They would have been masters of combined arms, if only they had bothered to try. Too blinded by imagined glory, and too insecure to see their own potential. Set them right.

    This just seems interesting to me, the Alpha Legion is cunning and coordinated, these things are useful against Khorne and Orks, who value their individual leaders who have great personal singular power, so we fight them not one-on-one but overwhelm them and force them to meet their weakness of their focus and glory hoarding. For we are the ants, the beasts that carve away great monsters until they are but scraps of their formal selves.
     
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    Quick note on Crises, Phases and new Crises
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    • Before the vote ticks over just want to note that all current crises are three stages.

    The ones available are all stage one. Certain ones might combine or create an entirely new crisis if let alone.

    So with that little bit of paranoia, have fun figuring out which ones are which~
     
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    • [X] Plan: Emperor Reapers.
    -[X] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle.
    -[X] Death Guard: Though few in number it seems that any psykers born of this gene seed will be particularly powerful to compensate. Otherwise the Death Guard were almost painfully reliable. Favoring straightforward tactics where they could leverage their superior durability and discipline. The path stretches into eternity, but they will endure all the same.

    [X]Plan: The Myrmidons.

    [X] Plan: Until they see the glow of our barrels.

    [X] Plan: Decapitation Strike.

    Dream Logic said:
    For his part the Lion seems to be chasing phantoms rather then the foes at the gates.
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    There's something truly precious about Dark Angel stupidity.
     
    [X] Plan: Pride in Prejudice
    -[X] Waaagh and Prejudice (Orks, Khorne): Bronze Midir has been blessed with skill and hubris in equal measure. The iconoclast is not content with his own god's displeasure. Instead he seeks to challenge the Twin Gods for the souls of their children. He has made a throne from the corpses of eight Warbosses and raises the banner of eternal war. To him rally Stormboyz, Freebootaz, Gretchin and every Greenskin that values strength above all else. For now the disfavored gathers his strength but soon the Red Waaagh will march for Armageddon. At his command they build a tremendous fleet, better to burn them in port then face them it in battle. (This Crisis will progress in one turn)
    -[X] Emperor's Children: Fulgrim's children deserved better. Few in number so they learned to excel in all things instead. So it was and so it will be again. This stock demands greatness and brings all it's attendant tragedies. Yet they will never be lesser for it.
     
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