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Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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"Who the fuck is this group of knight and why do they want a planet?"
I would like to remind folks that, thanks to all the small bonuses to Development plus the 50% bonus to General Actions, we now have a viable pathway to completing the planet-eater and reaching All X on Devs, all within reasonable time and without needing to neglecting everything else.
I'd suggest putting two actions in diplomacy and one in Dev this turn (plus another action in... dunno, Research, Military, Psykana, we have options).
I'd suggest putting two actions in diplomacy and one in Dev this turn (plus another action in... dunno, Research, Military, Psykana, we have options).
Ok, here's my draft of a plan. Singing a song of progress/diplomacy, getting the entire Macabre sub-sector & doing the Eternity deal.
[] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre
-[] [General] Colonize (Planet/s) (6 slots with ISC)
--[] All three Gigachad planets + Trif - Cretetri (accelerate their development by only colonizing 4 planets)
-[] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
--[] (bonus general action) A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
---[] Swap from Qo to Zetraneum
---[] Free slot goes to Arcoghol - Booze Prime (is that really what it's called?)
-[] [Psykana] Sing a Song
--[] The Ways Of The Galaxy Can Be Changed - Hope Hope Progress Progress Progress
-[] [free] Switch ISC back to new Dawn
-[] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand - Hymns, Grace of the Hymns
Only one more song to unlock symphonies! That's definitely a free action!
We can change targets away from Qo without any penalty to cross some I's and dot some t's. We've got these two single-world groups sitting inside our borders and it really seems like this free action is the best way to deal with them.
[] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre
-[] [General] Colonize (Planet/s) (6 slots with ISC)
--[] All three Gigachad planets + Trif - Cretetri (accelerate their development by only colonizing 4 planets)
-[] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
--[] (bonus general action) A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
---[] Swap from Qo to Zetraneum
---[] Free slot goes to Arcoghol - Booze Prime (is that really what it's called?)
-[] [Psykana] Sing a Song
--[] The Ways Of The Galaxy Can Be Changed - Hope Hope Progress Progress Progress
-[] [free] Switch ISC back to new Dawn
-[] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand - Hymns, Grace of the Hymns
Only one more song to unlock symphonies! That's definitely a free action!
We can change targets away from Qo without any penalty to cross some I's and dot some t's. We've got these two single-world groups sitting inside our borders and it really seems like this free action is the best way to deal with them.
And if we 'overcolonize' then the planets will come online sooner. So let's do that!
I think that I'd prefer to scoop up some extra systems first - over the next few turns we should be picking up something like another dozen worlds between the Ashan, colonization & subverting one-system polities. That should hopefully drop the world-eater down to 8 or 10 actions. If we also sing a couple more good songs then we might also make up some additional progress, and who knows what a symphony will do. +1 action definitely.
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lancelot
Completely worth it
Well hopefully we can recreate the better versions at some point. Too bad the blackash didn't have last of their kind classes sitting in a vault and worshipped.
If any of these boosts are temporary then yes we should focus on the mega project, and stringing out the minor project over the next couple of turns
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Hmmm this Song sounds pretty Tzeentch-y if you ask me.
Instead of something that may invoke the Changer of Ways, let's get around to that song "Hippity Hoppity where the FUCK is our Ancestors' Property"
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We're Iconoclasts, changing the ways of the galaxy is our entire thing. That song is perfectly fine. And besides, if Tzeentch infection via songs really was a problem, it would've come up after we sang the revolution song.
I like Hippity Hoppity, I definitely want to do it at some point. The problem with it is that I think it'll what it does is give us new tech options. We'll find ancient technology and get the chance to reverse-engineer it - which sounds great, but we don't need more tech options right now. We need more efficiency-boosting actions or auto-tickers or whatever.
Yeah - this. The song is Hope & Progress. It's directed positive change of the kind we've been making for generations.
[] Plan new Colonies, Knights and diplomacy
-[] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[] A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
-[] [Military] Knights Noble And Righteous
-[] [General] Colonize (Planet/s)(free from doing two general actions)
--[] 1 - Gigachad (Swamp, Boreal Forest, Boreal Swamp, Jungle), ??? -
--[] 2 - Gigachad (Small Hills, River Valleys, Atolls), ??? -
--[] 3 - Gigachad (Temperate Forests, Spiders, Lush Caves, Spiders, Flowering Savanna, Spiders),
--[] Trif - Cretetri (Lilypad Ocean)
-[] Swap the active ICS to new dawn
-[] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
--[] Two single system powers the closest to our existing worlds
Our active ICS is the colonial one so we could colonise two more world but they would all result in reduced void industry at minimal or currently being terraformed.
Adding two worlds and then having to spend two actions on getting void industry back to its current level does not seem to be worth it.
The Gigachad colonies fills in a hole in the middle of our federation that will exist after we buy out the ashen families.
-[] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[] A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
-[] [Military] Knights Noble And Righteous
-[] [General] Colonize (Planet/s)(free from doing two general actions)
--[] 1 - Gigachad (Swamp, Boreal Forest, Boreal Swamp, Jungle), ??? -
--[] 2 - Gigachad (Small Hills, River Valleys, Atolls), ??? -
--[] 3 - Gigachad (Temperate Forests, Spiders, Lush Caves, Spiders, Flowering Savanna, Spiders),
--[] Trif - Cretetri (Lilypad Ocean)
-[] Swap the active ICS to new dawn
-[] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
--[] Two single system powers the closest to our existing worlds
Our active ICS is the colonial one so we could colonise two more world but they would all result in reduced void industry at minimal or currently being terraformed.
Adding two worlds and then having to spend two actions on getting void industry back to its current level does not seem to be worth it.
The Gigachad colonies fills in a hole in the middle of our federation that will exist after we buy out the ashen families.
I think we need to specify exactly if we don't want to choose something that'll bite us like the Brans thing did. The problem here is that there aren't many of those. Let's list them:
1. Zetraneum (in our borders, technically a feral world that asked to stay independent. We asked and were told that this subversion would be a good way to ask for technological uplift).
2. Arcoghol - just a leftover world from Macabre. I try to nab it in my plan.
3. Oqo, on the other side of Back Cat territory. Very far away from us, actulaly.
3. Nurentia - other side of the unstable warp transit, subverting it would piss off the Watchtowere Confederacy.
4. Vurn - other side of the unstable warp transit, subverting it would piss off the Watchtowere Confederacy.
5. Jak-hal orbital Habitat, within Lords of Eternity Space.
The bottom 3 of those could cause us problems if we tried to integrate them. I think I'd like to do Zetraneum, then Arcoghol, neither of which should be particularly long, then dedicate ourselves to subverting the Black Cat clan. That would be a huge win, giving us a battleship, a bunch of tech and a bunch of orbital infrastructure as well as a built-up civilized world. In fact, maybe we should just leave the subversion on the Black Cat clan. If we point both at it (the second slot at Oq) then we will proably snag them in ~200 years, which sounds fine to me to take over a minor power.
@HeroCooky What's up with Nurentia & Vurn? Are those targets for subversion or colonization?
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They are being colonized by the Watchtower Confederacy.
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I'd suggest instead of this we research Paths, Community, Family, and Love. Paths might help with our Navigation, Love is cool, and most importantly Community and Family are the two Melodies we're missing for the Faster Development Song (Progress/Community/Family/Unity). We can sing it next turn, it will be very useful, and we'll want it for the Symphony you're aiming for.
Haw you asked the qm? What's the interpretation? I would prefer to sing songs that we know approximately what they'll do.
There hasn't been a ton of discussion. Well, two plan versions, one to nab some single worlds, the other to work on eventually subverting the Black Cat. Remember that a symphony will almost certainly get us a bonus action!
[X] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre
-[X] [General] Colonize (Planet/s) (6 slots with ISC, develop 4 planets faster)
--[X] 1 - Gigachad (Swamp, Boreal Forest, Boreal Swamp, Jungle), ??? -
--[X] 2 - Gigachad (Small Hills, River Valleys, Atolls), ??? -
--[X] 3 - Gigachad (Temperate Forests, Spiders, Lush Caves, Spiders, Flowering Savanna, Spiders),
--[X] Trif - Cretetri (Lilypad Ocean)
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
--[X] (bonus general action) A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[X] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
---[X] Swap from Qo to Zetraneum
---[X] Free slot goes to Arcoghol - Booze Prime (is that really what it's called?)
-[X] [Psykana] Sing a Song
--[X] The Ways Of The Galaxy Can Be Changed - Hope Hope Progress Progress Progress
-[X] [free] Switch ISC back to new Dawn
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand - Hymns, Grace of the Hymns
[X] Plan: Flipping the Black Cat
-[X] [General] Colonize (Planet/s) (6 slots with ISC, develop 4 planets faster)
--[X] 1 - Gigachad (Swamp, Boreal Forest, Boreal Swamp, Jungle), ??? -
--[X] 2 - Gigachad (Small Hills, River Valleys, Atolls), ??? -
--[X] 3 - Gigachad (Temperate Forests, Spiders, Lush Caves, Spiders, Flowering Savanna, Spiders),
--[X] Trif - Cretetri (Lilypad Ocean)
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
--[X] (bonus general action) A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[X] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
---[X] Qo subversion continues. Don't get caught!
---[X] Free slot goes to Oq, with instructions to sync & assist with the subversion of Qo.
-[X] [Psykana] Sing a Song
--[X] The Ways Of The Galaxy Can Be Changed - Hope Hope Progress Progress Progress
-[X] [free] Switch ISC back to new Dawn
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand - Hymns, Grace of the Hymns
[X] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre
-[X] [General] Colonize (Planet/s) (6 slots with ISC, develop 4 planets faster)
--[X] 1 - Gigachad (Swamp, Boreal Forest, Boreal Swamp, Jungle), ??? -
--[X] 2 - Gigachad (Small Hills, River Valleys, Atolls), ??? -
--[X] 3 - Gigachad (Temperate Forests, Spiders, Lush Caves, Spiders, Flowering Savanna, Spiders),
--[X] Trif - Cretetri (Lilypad Ocean)
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
--[X] (bonus general action) A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[X] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
---[X] Swap from Qo to Zetraneum
---[X] Free slot goes to Arcoghol - Booze Prime (is that really what it's called?)
-[X] [Psykana] Sing a Song
--[X] The Ways Of The Galaxy Can Be Changed - Hope Hope Progress Progress Progress
-[X] [free] Switch ISC back to new Dawn
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand - Hymns, Grace of the Hymns
[X] Plan: Flipping the Black Cat
-[X] [General] Colonize (Planet/s) (6 slots with ISC, develop 4 planets faster)
--[X] 1 - Gigachad (Swamp, Boreal Forest, Boreal Swamp, Jungle), ??? -
--[X] 2 - Gigachad (Small Hills, River Valleys, Atolls), ??? -
--[X] 3 - Gigachad (Temperate Forests, Spiders, Lush Caves, Spiders, Flowering Savanna, Spiders),
--[X] Trif - Cretetri (Lilypad Ocean)
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
--[X] (bonus general action) A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[X] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
---[X] Qo subversion continues. Don't get caught!
---[X] Free slot goes to Oq, with instructions to sync & assist with the subversion of Qo.
-[X] [Psykana] Sing a Song
--[X] The Ways Of The Galaxy Can Be Changed - Hope Hope Progress Progress Progress
-[X] [free] Switch ISC back to new Dawn
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand - Hymns, Grace of the Hymns
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Interpretion is here. HeroCooky did not answer (they won't, because we don't have Family and Community yet) but gave an Insightful to the post.
At any rate, it's based on this serie of WoG:
Which is pretty conclusive.
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[X] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre
Oh, nice! I remember seeing some of that but not all of it. I didn't remember we had a suggestion that Progress/Community/Family/Unity would boost our development.
Hmm. I'm definitely interested, but I don't like that we'd need a whole melody action to get there first. But if we decide to do any melody stuff for the future I'll definitely support adding Family and Community to it.
[X] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre
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[X] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre
I wonder if we could sink a few Actions to expand Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication. More staff, more equipment, more everything. Effect being having 3 slots to infiltrate/befriend with. We are mostly surrounded by friends right now, so the quicker we convince others to be our friends and donate their clay, the better.
I wonder if we could sink a few Actions to expand Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication. More staff, more equipment, more everything. Effect being having 3 slots to infiltrate/befriend with. We are mostly surrounded by friends right now, so the quicker we convince others to be our friends and donate their clay, the better.
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We could spend actions to speed up infiltration I think. @HeroCooky am I correct in this?
Also which planet got terraformed?
It's going up. Maybe one day we will be neutral
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I like the Acquiring all of Macabre plan except for one single piece of it, the song. I really don't like that song. I know that it doesn't have crazy text sizes but it hits too many of my 'This is Chaos bait' buttons. So here is some other variants that I feel safer with. One that has us finally doing what we promised when we got Macabre (kinda narratively fits with the rest of the turn) and one where we get the anti-chaos song.
[X] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre and doing Commitments
-[X] [General] Colonize (Planet/s) (6 slots with ISC, develop 4 planets faster)
--[X] 1 - Gigachad (Swamp, Boreal Forest, Boreal Swamp, Jungle), ??? -
--[X] 2 - Gigachad (Small Hills, River Valleys, Atolls), ??? -
--[X] 3 - Gigachad (Temperate Forests, Spiders, Lush Caves, Spiders, Flowering Savanna, Spiders),
--[X] Trif - Cretetri (Lilypad Ocean)
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
--[X] (bonus general action) A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[X] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
---[X] Swap from Qo to Zetraneum
---[X] Free slot goes to Arcoghol - Booze Prime (is that really what it's called?)
- [X] [Faith] The Penitentia Rite
-[X] [free] Switch ISC back to new Dawn
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand - Hymns, Grace of the Hymns
[X] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre with Anti-Chaos
-[X] [General] Colonize (Planet/s) (6 slots with ISC, develop 4 planets faster)
--[X] 1 - Gigachad (Swamp, Boreal Forest, Boreal Swamp, Jungle), ??? -
--[X] 2 - Gigachad (Small Hills, River Valleys, Atolls), ??? -
--[X] 3 - Gigachad (Temperate Forests, Spiders, Lush Caves, Spiders, Flowering Savanna, Spiders),
--[X] Trif - Cretetri (Lilypad Ocean)
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
--[X] (bonus general action) A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[X] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
---[X] Swap from Qo to Zetraneum
---[X] Free slot goes to Arcoghol - Booze Prime (is that really what it's called?)
-[X] [Psykana] Sing a Song
--[X] Shield Us From The Influence Of The Four - Protection, Hope, Grounding, Health, Protection
-[X] [free] Switch ISC back to new Dawn
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand - Hymns, Grace of the Hymns
[X] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre and doing Commitments
-[X] [General] Colonize (Planet/s) (6 slots with ISC, develop 4 planets faster)
--[X] 1 - Gigachad (Swamp, Boreal Forest, Boreal Swamp, Jungle), ??? -
--[X] 2 - Gigachad (Small Hills, River Valleys, Atolls), ??? -
--[X] 3 - Gigachad (Temperate Forests, Spiders, Lush Caves, Spiders, Flowering Savanna, Spiders),
--[X] Trif - Cretetri (Lilypad Ocean)
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
--[X] (bonus general action) A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[X] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
---[X] Swap from Qo to Zetraneum
---[X] Free slot goes to Arcoghol - Booze Prime (is that really what it's called?)
- [X] [Faith] The Penitentia Rite
-[X] [free] Switch ISC back to new Dawn
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand - Hymns, Grace of the Hymns
[X] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre with Anti-Chaos
-[X] [General] Colonize (Planet/s) (6 slots with ISC, develop 4 planets faster)
--[X] 1 - Gigachad (Swamp, Boreal Forest, Boreal Swamp, Jungle), ??? -
--[X] 2 - Gigachad (Small Hills, River Valleys, Atolls), ??? -
--[X] 3 - Gigachad (Temperate Forests, Spiders, Lush Caves, Spiders, Flowering Savanna, Spiders),
--[X] Trif - Cretetri (Lilypad Ocean)
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] The Family Buy-Out (1/2)
--[X] (bonus general action) A Debt-Born Alliance With Eternity
--[X] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Choose Two)
---[X] Swap from Qo to Zetraneum
---[X] Free slot goes to Arcoghol - Booze Prime (is that really what it's called?)
-[X] [Psykana] Sing a Song
--[X] Shield Us From The Influence Of The Four - Protection, Hope, Grounding, Health, Protection
-[X] [free] Switch ISC back to new Dawn
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand - Hymns, Grace of the Hymns
[X] Plan: Acquiring all of Macabre
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Even if we were willing to do that (which is dubious, as that is incredibly unlikely to be worth doing, even ignoring the moral issues), IIRC the Lords of Eternity raised some of the birds from birth, and they still universally attacked\tried to enslave humans.
...do you happen to work for Weyland Yutani?
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