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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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OctarineShrike said:
The question here though is whether or not he'd consider not speedblitzing him to be rude.
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Why would he? Molly's reputation is why the kids are training in Chicago to begin with rather than elsewhere like in canon. He should be aware that we could kill him in ten different ways without issue and shrug off each of his attacks. His expectations as a Wizard who hasn't prepared for a foe like Molly shouldn't be that high. I suppose knowing and knowing are two different things but I don't think it's a big deal.
 
[X] Plan: With Kid's Gloves
-[X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
--[X] Demonstrate escalation throughout the fight, showcasing how different "tiers" of combat might work, starting from mid-level vampire, and up to an elder god
--[X] Show of some resilience, counterspell, soak or shaping-defend some attacks before stricking back.
--[X] Summon some of the gurvel heavy combatant shadows using Emergency Minion Hologram mid-combat to demonstrate the possibility of enemy calling upon some nasty things
 
BoredMan said:
Why would he? Molly's reputation is why the kids are training in Chicago to begin with rather than elsewhere like in canon. He should be aware that we could kill him in ten different ways without issue and shrug off each of his attacks. His expectations as a Wizard who hasn't prepared for a foe like Molly shouldn't be that high. I suppose knowing and knowing are two different things but I don't think it's a big deal.
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Doesn't mean he might not want to try. Which is why discussing rules of engagement and expectations seems important even if we don't use my exact approach.
 
OctarineShrike said:
Doesn't mean he might not want to try. Which is why discussing rules of engagement and expectations seems important even if we don't use my exact approach.
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Want to try what? Again our reputation should temper his expectations. He and the kids are only here right now because of Molly's feats. I imagine something like "rules of engagement" for a duel/spar isn't something you need to specify. It's enough of a common sense thing that it should be brought up in the narrative even if we don't specify it in a vote.
 
OctarineShrike said:
Fighting us at as close as we can get to full power that won't kill or permanently injure him.
Edit: Should probably add incapacitating him for longer than a day or two to that list considering how wizards heal
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That seems a bit ridiculous. He asked "do you think we should show them what you can do" and wants to use this as an opportunity to test himself. I don't see why he'd want us to go full power just show some of our abilities so he can test his mettle against a stronger opponent and give a demonstration to the kids.

Edit: I imagine this is a rare opportunity for a Wizard to test their strength against someone stronger without risk of death. Doesn't mean he wants to be speed blitzed.
 
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BoredMan said:
That seems a bit ridiculous. He asked "do you think we should show them what you can do" and wants to use this as an opportunity to test himself. I don't see why he'd want us to go full power just show some of our abilities so he can test his mettle against a stronger opponent and give a demonstration to the kids.

Edit: I imagine this is a rare opportunity for a Wizard to test their strength against someone stronger without risk of death. Doesn't mean he wants to be speed blitzed.
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Has Carlos seen us in Combat Action? If he has he might have something prepared for the speed we've had WBS for pretty much the entire Quest so going slow might actually be to our detriment.
 
Degorium said:
Has Carlos seen us in Combat Action? If he has he might have something prepared for the speed we've had WBS for pretty much the entire Quest so going slow might actually be to our detriment.
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Don't know. Carlos is relatively young as far as Wizards go so there's a limit to how much we can reasonably expect. If he's handling the pressure with apparent ease though I'd expect Molly to simply increase it in response.
 
Alright fine.

[X] Plan: With Kid's Gloves
-[X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
--[X] Demonstrate escalation throughout the fight, showcasing how different "tiers" of combat might work, starting from mid-level vampire, and up to an elder god
--[X] Show of some resilience, counterspell, soak or shaping-defend some attacks before stricking back.
--[X] Summon some of the gurvel heavy combatant shadows using Emergency Minion Hologram mid-combat to demonstrate the possibility of enemy calling upon some nasty things
 
[X] Yes, do a demonstration duel

I feel like we shouldn't show off. It's not like these trainees are going to fight a Lord of Outer Night soon. If anything, teaching them about avoiding poison, snipers, and explosives would be more useful than just showing off what superspeed can do in a supernatural showdown. Their main foe is the Red Court, but their minions can be just as deadly as the vamps.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Anaja on Aug 15, 2024 at 2:35 PM, finished with 60 posts and 20 votes.
  • [X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
    [X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
    -[X] Demonstrate escalation throughout the fight, showcasing how different "tiers" of combat might work, starting from mid-level vampire, and up to an elder god
    -[X] Show of some resilience, counterspell, soak or shaping-defend some attacks before stricking back.
    -[X] Summon some of the gurvel heavy combatant shadows using Emergency Minion Hologram mid-combat to demonstrate the possibility of enemy calling upon some nasty things
    -[X] Finish by imitating your shintai using BMI (don't actually use shintai)
    [X] Plan: With Kid's Gloves
    -[X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
    --[X] Demonstrate escalation throughout the fight, showcasing how different "tiers" of combat might work, starting from mid-level vampire, and up to an elder god
    --[X] Show of some resilience, counterspell, soak or shaping-defend some attacks before stricking back.
    --[X] Summon some of the gurvel heavy combatant shadows using Emergency Minion Hologram mid-combat to demonstrate the possibility of enemy calling upon some nasty things
    [X] Yes.
    -[X] The trainees have seen superhuman feats of physical prowess, and magic itself is not new to them. Instead of demonstrating such "common" feats, Molly will instead use her powers to craft something special, and she'll do so in a suitably impressive manner.
    --[X] Perhaps Carlos would appreciate a suit of skintight armor like we once crafted for ourselves?
    [X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
    -[x]"So how you want to do this weaponwise? My first thought is swords, internal magic, and whatever external magic we've got that won't kill or permanently injure an ordinary human if it hits. The rounds stop when one of us is in a position to cause injury by ordinary human standards. If I beat you in a few seconds the first time, do you want to try a couple rounds where I go slower? You might learn something that way"
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[X] Plan Leave a Mark
-[X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
-[X] Demonstrate escalation throughout the fight, showcasing how different "tiers" of combat might work, starting from mid-level vampire and going up.
-[X] Activate FPoR, WHWH, ATB, Steel Skin, and BSM from the start. Excellency as needed.
-[X] Activate VLE as the pressure mounts.
-[X] Activate EMH with up to 2 solid minions and use BMI to mirror them once we're at the max force for the spar.
-[X] [Stunt] Casting a look of almost feline amusement at him Molly steps out from behind her shadow of normalcy and, in one fluid movement, pours a bottle of water over her head.
—[X] As it flows over her the ice cold water seems to wash away any hint of the mundane, leaving behind imperishable brass. Striding past Carlos into the impromptu sparring ring, Molly gestures invitingly with Usum.
—[X] "Can't say I've ever fought a proper wizard before, and I'm nothing if not curious" she said, the challenging note of a red drum echoing beneath her voice.

Is it a little much? Perhaps. Consider, however, that messing with Carlos is really funny. :V

We've got to do most of that stuff to get our full buffs anyway, so we might as well have some fun with it.
 
[X] Plan Leave a Mark

This is actually kind of hilarious, and combat flirting with Carlos sounds like a brilliant idea
 
So, it occurs to me - when we are making god of Chicago, would McAnally be allowed to contribute by the Rules? He's a citizen of Chicago, after all.
 
I don't suppose I can convince any of the other baseline plan voters? My plan does stair step escalation, but it swaps an image of our Shintai for a fun little charm interaction that demonstrates a potential issue the baby Wardens could face with shapeshifters.

It also has a stunt for messing with Carlos, meaning it has better dice and is funnier than the competing options. :V
 
Adhoc vote count started by Anaja on Aug 15, 2024 at 6:58 PM, finished with 70 posts and 20 votes.
  • [X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
    [X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
    -[X] Demonstrate escalation throughout the fight, showcasing how different "tiers" of combat might work, starting from mid-level vampire, and up to an elder god
    -[X] Show of some resilience, counterspell, soak or shaping-defend some attacks before stricking back.
    -[X] Summon some of the gurvel heavy combatant shadows using Emergency Minion Hologram mid-combat to demonstrate the possibility of enemy calling upon some nasty things
    -[X] Finish by imitating your shintai using BMI (don't actually use shintai)
    [X] Plan Leave a Mark
    -[X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
    -[X] Demonstrate escalation throughout the fight, showcasing how different "tiers" of combat might work, starting from mid-level vampire and going up.
    -[X] Activate FPoR, WHWH, ATB, Steel Skin, and BSM from the start. Excellency as needed.
    -[X] Activate VLE as the pressure mounts.
    -[X] Activate EMH with up to 2 solid minions and use BMI to mirror them once we're at the max force for the spar.
    -[X] [Stunt] Casting a look of almost feline amusement at him Molly steps out from behind her shadow of normalcy and, in one fluid movement, pours a bottle of water over her head.
    —[X] As it flows over her the ice cold water seems to wash away any hint of the mundane, leaving behind imperishable brass. Striding past Carlos into the impromptu sparring ring, Molly gestures invitingly with Usum.
    —[X] "Can't say I've ever fought a proper wizard before, and I'm nothing if not curious" she said, the challenging note of a red drum echoing beneath her voice.
    [X] Plan: With Kid's Gloves
    -[X] Yes, do a demonstration duel
    --[X] Demonstrate escalation throughout the fight, showcasing how different "tiers" of combat might work, starting from mid-level vampire, and up to an elder god
    --[X] Show of some resilience, counterspell, soak or shaping-defend some attacks before stricking back.
    --[X] Summon some of the gurvel heavy combatant shadows using Emergency Minion Hologram mid-combat to demonstrate the possibility of enemy calling upon some nasty things
    [X] Yes.
    -[X] The trainees have seen superhuman feats of physical prowess, and magic itself is not new to them. Instead of demonstrating such "common" feats, Molly will instead use her powers to craft something special, and she'll do so in a suitably impressive manner.
    --[X] Perhaps Carlos would appreciate a suit of skintight armor like we once crafted for ourselves?
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