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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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All fixed, thanks again.
- Location
- Estonia
[X] Harry, this used to be a wizard place right?
The potential hostile action by the island is kidnapping and imprisoning threats, not a traditional attack. So the least potentially "worthy" of imprisonment anyone entering first is, the safer. So no demigods, or Exalted, or what we turned Olivia into.
And while Michael has lately shown he can negotiate with pretty alien spirits, he is not our potential Warden candidate. Let Harry take the lead. It's what they island will understand the most.
The potential hostile action by the island is kidnapping and imprisoning threats, not a traditional attack. So the least potentially "worthy" of imprisonment anyone entering first is, the safer. So no demigods, or Exalted, or what we turned Olivia into.
And while Michael has lately shown he can negotiate with pretty alien spirits, he is not our potential Warden candidate. Let Harry take the lead. It's what they island will understand the most.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
I'd like to blame AI, but lets face it, auto-correct has always been possessed.
Fixed.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
This is my thought process exactly.
[X] Harry, this used to be a wizard place right?
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Ugh, indeed. Curse you Mikaboshi! Damn you to hell for your infernal bullshittery interference with typing things down!I'd like to blame AI, but lets face it, auto-correct has always been possessed.
F0lkL0re
Officially not an Inquisitor
- Location
- Shetland
these are a bit oddly worded.
You'll want to remove the t here.
[X] Michael and Harry
QM ruling of course.
But mechanically, it doesnt make him immune, it just means that he can prevent if from damaging himself, because the damage is from his Hunger acting up, and since MiS gives him perfect control of his Hunger, he can touch her(or anyone else with True Love) without harm. Only if he tries to use his Hunger while in contact does any damage occur.
Also worth noting:
Connie Barrowill canonically shags Irwin Pounder, who she loves.
Without any apparent harm.
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COMMENTARY
Loling at the mug.
Finally got a look at Justine.
Nothing immediately out of the ordinary, and we confirm IC that she's currently working for Lara Raith. So questions scanning the White Court faction will probably apply to her as well.
A campaign that widespread on the Ordo Malleus suggests a supernatural nationstate. Reds, a Yama King...... someone with both the power, knowledge and the minions to prosecute this kind of campaign. I dont think the Denarians could do this without calling in a favor or six; they have the power and knowledge, but not the disposable minions.
We probably want to see Father Forthill and use the scene with him as a focus to figure out who is poking at the Inquisition.
Loling at Molly and Sophia being twins.
Murphy is going to be so confused when she runs into the other twins. I wonder what she thought when Lydia mentioned Sanctuary; I think she's the only person on the boat who has no idea where Sanctuary is supposed to be.
Sophia can speak spirit speech, Molly has a <Universal Language> charm, and Michael can make himself understood by virtue of the fact that he's carrying Amoracchius.
Nobody else can guarantee speaking the language fluently. So Harry is out.
Ha!
If we manage to return the boat in better condition than it was given to us, that would be hilarious.
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[X] Goldfish
RATIONALE
Molly rolls Manipulation/Charisma 3 + Etiquette 5 + Excellency 8 + Without Honor 2 + Stunt 2 = 20 dice.
Boiling Sea Mastery -1DC
Thats more than 2x Harry's social dice pool.
And unlike Harry, she can fly, so if for some reason things went wrong, she'd be able to run away. And any attempts to imprison her would activate CCC.
So she just steps off the boat into the water to get wet, uses Rendered Villain Dispersal to get to the island, and then calls the island with Source Code Compliance Protocol to get permission/safe passage for everyone else to land.
I would have considered sending Sophia, but she's a better boat driver than Molly is because of Apecraft's Blessings.
And her Social Excellency is much more expensive to use.
[X] Goldfish
RATIONALE
Molly rolls Manipulation/Charisma 3 + Etiquette 5 + Excellency 8 + Without Honor 2 + Stunt 2 = 20 dice.
Boiling Sea Mastery -1DC
Thats more than 2x Harry's social dice pool.
And unlike Harry, she can fly, so if for some reason things went wrong, she'd be able to run away. And any attempts to imprison her would activate CCC.
So she just steps off the boat into the water to get wet, uses Rendered Villain Dispersal to get to the island, and then calls the island with Source Code Compliance Protocol to get permission/safe passage for everyone else to land.
I would have considered sending Sophia, but she's a better boat driver than Molly is because of Apecraft's Blessings.
And her Social Excellency is much more expensive to use.
[X] Harry, this used to be a wizard place right?
Harry needs to become the Warden of Deamonreach.
Then we need to finish making the mantle of the God of Chicago to put up on his shoulders.
Plan "Super Harry" is a go.
Harry needs to become the Warden of Deamonreach.
Then we need to finish making the mantle of the God of Chicago to put up on his shoulders.
Plan "Super Harry" is a go.
[X] Dad's good at talking to people, maybe it applies to islands too
[X] Harry, this used to be a wizard place right?
Either Harry or Michael are the best decision, I feel. Because while Molly has more social dice, she's also the one Demonreach is most likely to react in a hostile manner to.
[X] Harry, this used to be a wizard place right?
Either Harry or Michael are the best decision, I feel. Because while Molly has more social dice, she's also the one Demonreach is most likely to react in a hostile manner to.
Traditional attack is very much on the table, in case you forgot Harry's first meeting with Demonreach.
Or what happened to Gard's sister.
Or Lara Raith.
And as Rashid will tell you, it doesnt respond positively to all wizards either.
Not how it works.
This isnt an interview for Warden, this is asking permission and fair passage for the party to land on the island.
And Harry has only 4-5 dice for this.
Huh?
Harry just fumbled the conversation with the spirits of the mirror, resulting in them attacking him.
Furthermore, he only has 4 dice of Charisma + Empathy; citation:
Thats bad for a potentially highstakes conversation.
Michael is a better choice, but I would prefer not to dock without permission, and Michael cant get to the island without docking.
Because unlike Molly, he cant fly.
Or walk on water. Or teleport through water.
Also, the more activities Molly(Or Lydia/Tiffany) is involved in, the more XP at the end of the arc.
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Huh?
Harry just fumbled the conversation with the spirits of the mirror, resulting in them attacking him.
Furthermore, he only has 4 dice of Charisma + Empathy; citation:
Thats bad for a potentially highstakes conversation.
Michael is a better choice, but I would prefer not to dock without permission, and Michael cant get to the island without docking.
Because unlike Molly, he cant fly.
Or walk on water. Or teleport through water.
Also, the more activities Molly(Or Lydia/Tiffany) is involved in, the more XP at the end of the arc.
Odds are good Harry would use something more exotic than his social skills to talk to spirits. In canon he just shot soulfire at it.
Anyway it is late. Good night guys
- Location
- Canada
Listen, I'm sure Merlin thinks first come first served is a good way to hand over the Wardenship of Demonreach, so I think sending in the new prospective wizard hire will be safer than sending in the new prospective demon queen prisoner.
Alfred is, at worst, gonna kick Harry's ass off his lawn. With Molly, she's going straight to jail, do not collect $200, if she pisses off Best Island. Best not to risk making Molly's criminal record even worse, Charity would kill her.
Alfred is, at worst, gonna kick Harry's ass off his lawn. With Molly, she's going straight to jail, do not collect $200, if she pisses off Best Island. Best not to risk making Molly's criminal record even worse, Charity would kill her.
This isnt true.
Demonreach does not pick people on a first come first serve basis.
It requires a FORMAL application with a formal magical ritual, and then you have to pass its test. Harry passed in canon by cheating; he had soulfire from Uriel, and back then he didnt even know what he was applying for.
THIS Harry does not have soulfire.
To be clear, this is not true.
In Small Favor, at least six Denarians set up on Demonreach, with a small army of constructs and minions, and imprisoned the Archive in a greater Circle with help from Lucifer. Demonreach did not interfere to kick them off or imprison them.
And unlike Nicky, Molly has CCC against attempts to imprison her.
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- Location
- portugal
[X] You'll go you're the hardest to hurt
- Location
- At Home
I doubt anything will happen to us if we're the first to go. But there's also no reason not to send in Harry, either. The same logic of why we're safe applies to him, too.
Just let Harry go first so he can start making friends with the sentient prison island.
[X] Harry, this used to be a wizard place right?
Also, the second half seems wrong, too, but I can't say how.
Just let Harry go first so he can start making friends with the sentient prison island.
[X] Harry, this used to be a wizard place right?
Missing words in bold: Won't be long before the White Council.
Also, the second half seems wrong, too, but I can't say how.
since humans knew how
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
The Denarians shouldn't count for imprisonment. They are humans with Fallen support. An Exalted like Molly seems like the exact sort of target demographic from a pure power level standpoint. Monsters not of this age is what Demonreach is for not humans reliant upon a Coin for power.
1) Shagnasty was on Demonreach in Turn Coat.
Naagloshii. Minor Native American god of pain and terror. Nothing happened to him either.
Not from Demonreach, at least.
Demonreach doesnt just pop off wildly at people, and in the event that it popped off, Molly is a lot more survivable than Harry.
2) If that was what Demonreach was for, Mab would have tossed Usum in here. She didnt.
Demonreach was established as a prison largely for existential threats to reality and the status quo.
Nothing about "not of this age" else Odin wouldnt have come here.
1) Harry can botch; he literally just botched the last spirit conversation he was involved in.
Molly cant; Empathy, Etiquette and Occult are all Key for her.
2) Our end of turn XP depends on which things we, or immediate parts of our party do.
Harry is not on that list.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
By that logic shouldn't Murphy be the safest? She is pure vanilla mortal, but she doesn't appear as a default option.
[X] You'll go you're the hardest to hurt
If we get locked up in a place of desolation like this I look forward to seeing our escape. XP by the bucket full.
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BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
1) Demonreach is mainly for monsters far above their rank so that doesn't indicate much to me. It's less likely to trigger at Harry which is partly why I'm voting for him.
2) Do you know what Mab wanted it for? She may have kept it locked away for possible future use. As a bargaining chip or otherwise. Demonreach was described as a prison for monsters not of this age in Quest.
I don't think it's particularly likely that it'd have an issue with Molly out the gate. I just think its less likely to be initially hostile to someone who doesn't even remotely qualify for imprisonment.
Murphy really isn't qualified to talk to spirits. Not anymore than Harry who has more experience on the matter and magic in general anyway. I'd be rather odd sending someone without magic senses over to talk to the magic island first.
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