Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)

What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?

  • Mercy (Diplomacy and Expansion)

    Votes: 201 74.7%

  • Ruthlessness (Kick the Duchy in the Balls)

    Votes: 65 24.2%

  • Thule (Yeeni Handholding and Piscarian Cuddling)

    Votes: 102 37.9%
  • Total voters
    269
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[X] Plan: Yes, but Actually No, with Slightly More Generosity, And No World-Splitting
-[X] First, apologize to the Mashan delegation for the unintended insult. And give some context about why the Federation offered what it did (the general poor state of the galaxy in terms of shit being fucked). Then politely ask for trade contacts, especially with the context of our ISCs.
-[X] Second, give context for the Federation's entry into the war into 621- the Neon Protectorate and its fall and the sheer slog that it had been to push through to 621, as well as outlining the fleet & ground force commitments that were made. In that context, we were a major player in the war.
-[X] Third, explain the origin of the Federation and its relationship with the Lamenters space marine chapter, as well as our continued support of them over the centuries.
-[X] All of that said, Straight up refuse all demands for Yivv. Have the Temple Authority back you, or try to win their support in this. Similarly, Zentraneum is not theirs, even if it's not yours either in the sense of exploitation.
-[X] The Alliance can have Kalikrax, and Weznicritt.
-[X] Offer to aid in their reconstruction (the Alliance) with an action.
-[X] Civilian Trade with Shipwright's is good, and should proceed.
-[X] Embassy with both good.
-[X] The Temple Authority can have Murrs, they've offered the better price, also suggest them backing our insistence on holding Yivv and the neutrality/protectorate stuff with Zentraneum, or at least try to use the agreement to surrender Murrs to them to spur cooperation.

Edited to accede to the wishes of the masses. I think it's a bit too generous, but w/e.
 
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[X] Plan: Good is not nice enough to allow you to spit on sacrifices
-[X] Embassy exchange with both is good
-[X] Trade also is good.
-[X] Federation has no issues with the fate of Weznicritt and Kalikrax
-[X] Support the Mashan Authority's compromise offer over Murrs.
-[X] Say sorry to Mashan Authority; you meant no insult, just a worry over how your fellow men would act after being occupied by chaos. We experienced and foiled many of their plots after they successfully destroyed the subsector-wide power, Neon, after we defeated the chaos' regular forces. And using the experience you gained dealing with said collapse and corruption that followed you wanted to offer a hand to fellow sane power in the stars, so the post-war transition is easier. After all, victory on the battlefield is only the first part of a full triumph against chaos. After dealing with it once before, you have the infrastructure to help bring those on the verge of eternal damnation back into the light, and moving the survivors of chaos' madness wouldn't be a problem for you.
-[X] In exchange for Yivv system Federation is ready to help Aliance rebuild the destruction of plants that have fallen to the forces of the great enemy.
-[X] Given that locals of Zetraneum aren't interested in being colonised and Alliance didn't establish a long-term presence in the system Federation, sees claims of locals as more valid and is ready to defend their right to choose their own path as long as it doesn't involve chaos.
-[X] The disregard of the ultimate sacrifice of [whatever number of people 31% of our ground forces is] is extremely distasteful, the dismissal of how crippling the logistics of the enemy, especially given their plans for the major ritual, is not something we expected of brave people who fought the Great Enemy for centuries.
-[X] We are, of course, happy that they acknowledge the sacrifices of great warriors who are Lamenters; it would be outrageous if they didn't. But the Lamenters are warriors, and aside from tech marines, they aren't craftsmen; aside from one dreadnaught armour, every piece of armour, every neophyte, every bolter and every round came from the grateful Federation. Including the ships, they flew to the battle.
 
[X] Plan: Context and Acceptable Compromise
-[X] First, apologize to the Mashan delegation for the unintended insult. And give some context about why the Federation offered what it did (the general poor state of the galaxy in terms of shit being fucked)
-[X] Second, give context for the Federation's entry into the war into 621- the Neon Protectorate and its fall and the sheer slog that it had been to push through to 621.
--[X] Also mention the fact that the raiding by the Federation was instrumental in keeping the Chaos forces from calling in massive reinforcements from out of sector as the raid disrupted the Chaos forces' plan.
-[X] Third, explain the origin of the Federation and its relationship with the Lamenters space marine chapter. Merely stating that the Federation and the Lamenters are allies is missing the forest for the trees.
--[X] If necessary, ask the Lamenters to send a representative to lay out their side of the relationship if either the Shipwrights or the Mashan requires further convincing on the matter.
-[X] The Federation proposes the following:
--[X] Support Weznicritt and Kalikrax being returned to the Shipwrights Alliance
--[X] The Federation will keep Yivv.
--[X] Zentraneum will be a Federation Protectorate.
--[X] The Federation will offer to help repair the damage on the Shipwrights' Alliance worlds caused by Chaos.
--[X] Support the Mashan Authority's compromise offer over Murrs.
--[X] Offer civilian trade agreement between the Shipwrights' Alliance and the Glimmering Federation.
--[X] Set up embassies in the Federation by both the Shipwrights' Alliance and the Glimmering Federation.

[X] Plan: Yes, but Actually No, with Slightly More Generosity, And No World-Splitting--Fixed Version
 
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[X] Plan Cooperation, Conciliation, and Compromise
-[X] Support the return of the Weznicritt and Kalikrax systems to the Shipwrights Alliance
-[X] Offer a compromise for the Yivv system - the Shipwrights Alliance can have claim and control over Love's Huff and Broken Line, but the Federation claims control over the planet Fixxy, its moon Tom, and theie orbitals
--[X] The Federation is guaranteed free movement to and from Fixxy and Tom through the system
--[X] A space station shall be constructed in the system with joint ownership between the Alliance and Federation, to allow for coordination and future cooperation
-[X] A Civilian Trade Agreement shall be signed between the Federation and the Shipwright Alliance
-[X] Support the Mashan Temple Authority's control over the Murrs system, in exchange for allowing the Alliance to send a recovery mission for the Holy Data-Banks and offer a minimum of Refined Metals or a set percentage of all mined metals within Murrs (whichever is higher) for a century
-[X] Reaffirm our own claim to Zetraneum
--[X] Offer the Alliance an advisory role in the uplifting of the people of Zetraneum and the right to establish cultural centers to explore and celebrate their shared history
-[X] The Shipwright's Alliance, Federation, and the Mashan Temple Authority will establish embassies with each other
-[X] Offer an official apology to the Mashan Temple Authority for insinuating they could not look after the needs of their human populations
-[X] Share the full casualties sustained by the Federation during our short, but pivotal, contribution in the war against Chaos
-[X] Explain the specific relationship between the Lamenters and Federation to the Alliance and Mashan
--[X] Bluntly state that the Lamenters were sent to Kapion's Hope at the explicit request of the Federation as part of our overall operation, and could just as easily have been regular Federation ground forces instead if planned differently

There are too many variations of the same plan, so I'm just gonna vote for the one I posted earlier. Plus HeroCooky gave it a hug and it made me feel special.
 
[X] Plan: Yes, but Actually No, with Slightly More Generosity, And No World-Splitting

[X] Plan: Good is not nice enough to allow you to spit on sacrifices
 
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[X] Plan: Yes, but Actually No, with Slightly More Generosity
-[X] First, apologize to the Mashan delegation for the unintended insult. And give some context about why the Federation offered what it did (the general poor state of the galaxy in terms of shit being fucked). Then politely ask for trade contacts, especially with the context of our ISCs.
-[X] Second, give context for the Federation's entry into the war into 621- the Neon Protectorate and its fall and the sheer slog that it had been to push through to 621, as well as outlining the fleet & ground force commitments that were made. In that context, we were a major player in the war.
-[X] Third, explain the origin of the Federation and its relationship with the Lamenters space marine chapter, as well as our continued support of them over the centuries (including the provision of stealth ships to even reach the Shipwright's guild).
-[X] Fourth, we killed a major chaos sorcerer as he tried to infiltrate our holy places.
-[X] All of that said, Straight up refuse all demands for Yivv. Have the Temple Authority back you, or try to win their support in this. Similarly, Zentraneum is not theirs, even if it's not yours either in the sense of exploitation.
-[X] The Alliance can have Kalikrax, and at least half of Weznicritt.
-[X] Propose that each of the Temple Authority & Federation gain a world in Weznicritt, but in return offer an action done to help their reconstruction. The stated purpose here is to build up goodwill, knowledge and dependency to encourage harmonious existence and prevent war that would only hurt our peoples.
-[X] Civilian Trade with Shipwright's is good, and should proceed.
-[X] Embassy with both good.
-[X] The Temple Authority can have Murrs, they've offered the better price, also suggest them backing our insistence on holding Yivv and the neutrality/protectorate stuff with Zentraneum, or at least try to use the agreement to surrender Murrs to them to spur cooperation.
 
[X] Plan: Yes, but Actually No, with Slightly More Generosity, And No World-Splitting--Fixed Version

Sure I guess, this works enough. I'm not going to expend more energy trying to realpolitik this.
 
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[X] Plan: Yes, but Actually No, with Slightly More Generosity, And No World-Splitting
 
[X] Plan: Yes, but Actually No, with Slightly More Generosity, And No World-Splitting

[X] Plan: Good is not nice enough to allow you to spit on sacrifices
 
What's the point of this in the plans anyway?

-[] Propose that each of the Temple Authority & Federation gain a world in Weznicritt, but in return offer an action done to help their reconstruction. The stated purpose here is to build up goodwill, knowledge and dependency to encourage harmonious existence and prevent war that would only hurt our peoples.

This outright goes against the plan name if accepted. And joint ownership of a system is far more likely to create friction and conflict points instead of encouraging harmonious existence.

Like, keep in mind that our civilization's ethos is basically Fanatic Spiritualist. Our people are going to be trying to convert the Mashan and the Mashan aren't going to be amused since their nation's name basically says that the church and the state are the same for them.

Edit: either just offer reconstruction aid with no strings attached or just remove it entirely from the plan imo.

Reconstruction aid would expose the Shipwrights' alliance to our influence quite a bit and build good will for future conversion and absorbtion so its not like we'll be losing out by doing it.
 
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Neablis said:
[X] Plan: Yes, but Actually No, with Slightly More Generosity, And No World-Splitting
-[X] First, apologize to the Mashan delegation for the unintended insult. And give some context about why the Federation offered what it did (the general poor state of the galaxy in terms of shit being fucked). Then politely ask for trade contacts, especially with the context of our ISCs.
-[X] Second, give context for the Federation's entry into the war into 621- the Neon Protectorate and its fall and the sheer slog that it had been to push through to 621, as well as outlining the fleet & ground force commitments that were made. In that context, we were a major player in the war.
-[X] Third, explain the origin of the Federation and its relationship with the Lamenters space marine chapter, as well as our continued support of them over the centuries.
-[X] All of that said, Straight up refuse all demands for Yivv. Have the Temple Authority back you, or try to win their support in this. Similarly, Zentraneum is not theirs, even if it's not yours either in the sense of exploitation.
-[X] The Alliance can have Kalikrax, and Weznicritt.
-[X] Propose that each of the Temple Authority & Federation gain a world in Weznicritt, but in return offer an action done to help their reconstruction. The stated purpose here is to build up goodwill, knowledge and dependency to encourage harmonious existence and prevent war that would only hurt our peoples.
-[X] Civilian Trade with Shipwright's is good, and should proceed.
-[X] Embassy with both good.
-[X] The Temple Authority can have Murrs, they've offered the better price, also suggest them backing our insistence on holding Yivv and the neutrality/protectorate stuff with Zentraneum, or at least try to use the agreement to surrender Murrs to them to spur cooperation.
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Shoot, that is a point. I think you accidentally used the wrong version, @Neablis

There's a version without the World Splitting here, and that's what you should be posting??
 
Oh shit, my bad actually. It's my editing B. Lemme fix this up.

[X] Plan: Yes, but Actually No, with Slightly More Generosity, And No World-Splitting--Fixed Version
-[X] First, apologize to the Mashan delegation for the unintended insult. And give some context about why the Federation offered what it did (the general poor state of the galaxy in terms of shit being fucked). Then politely ask for trade contacts, especially with the context of our ISCs.
-[X] Second, give context for the Federation's entry into the war into 621- the Neon Protectorate and its fall and the sheer slog that it had been to push through to 621, as well as outlining the fleet & ground force commitments that were made. In that context, we were a major player in the war.
-[X] Third, explain the origin of the Federation and its relationship with the Lamenters space marine chapter, as well as our continued support of them over the centuries.
-[X] All of that said, Straight up refuse all demands for Yivv. Have the Temple Authority back you, or try to win their support in this. Similarly, Zentraneum is not theirs, even if it's not yours either in the sense of exploitation.
-[X] The Alliance can have Kalikrax, and Weznicritt.
-[X] Offer to aid in their reconstruction (the Alliance) with an action.
-[X] Civilian Trade with Shipwright's is good, and should proceed.
-[X] Embassy with both good.
-[X] The Temple Authority can have Murrs, they've offered the better price, also suggest them backing our insistence on holding Yivv and the neutrality/protectorate stuff with Zentraneum, or at least try to use the agreement to surrender Murrs to them to spur cooperation.
 
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[X] Plan: Yes, but Actually No, with Slightly More Generosity, And No World-Splitting
 
The problem is that as long as @Neablis 's version of it is first in the order, that will be the one it thinks you're voting for...

I could name mine slightly differently, I guess, since it doesn't seem as if they are around?
 
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