BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
It wouldn't surprise me if they were associated but Yog's claim is a bit more substantial than that. I want to know if he extrapolated that or if we actually know from something I forgot.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
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- Germany
Sure?
We know something Neverborn created them, or at least was involved in that, but that doesn't mean it's active right now.
Hell, the Neverborn were barely active in Exalted, being mostly passive sources of power and madness, it was their Deathlords who did the active stuff.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
As per the ruling he needs a big enough crack in reality to enter and since it would require dragging and entire city with him chances are the Calibration Gate isn't nearly enough on its own.
If we do calibration gate, we should consider aiming it not at Earth, but at some realm that is as opposed to Wicked City as possible. @DragonParadox could we, in principle, aim Calibration Gate at Crimson Path or some other pure Yang aligned realm that is in natural conflict with Wicked City? Some sort of primordial nature hell maybe? I would ask about aiming it at Heaven or Avalon, but we would have needed to warn them prior to doing this.
Here, sorry for the long quote:
In this continuity Black Court were directly created by a Neverborn [Perfected Principle of Consumption].
It's alive enough for its invocations to have power. That's alive enough for concern to me.
If we go with dogs than Lydia may want to acquire a Cu-Sith. They are already versed in ferrying souls and people around, but with White God new rules they may have trouble finding honest work. Entering employ of a potential new death god or at least a being close enough in essence should be right up their alley. And they already have the basic skills and abilities needed for such work.
Also a bull sized shaggy green dog capable of walking in and out of Nevernever is cool.
Also a bull sized shaggy green dog capable of walking in and out of Nevernever is cool.
- Location
- Brazil
You are not understanding my explanation, if we point the gate to the Outside, things are much, much bigger and more dangerous than the Wicked City could enter without a problem. So yes, he could pass, but he won't because of the reasons mentioned.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
All DP said was that things from the Outside could get in if we used it that way. Your making the "much bigger" bit up on your own.
I mean not really Ethniu and the Dragons can walk into reality as they want they can't exercise their power as they want except for Ethnui, for some reason but they are as categories of beings considerably larger than the lord of the wicked City.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
I don't see what this has to do with DP's statement.
My reading comprehension needs work maybe I'm just tired holy shit. Yeah I have no clue what's going on I shouldn't have commented there.
- Location
- Brazil
So do you think that the true body of an Outsider has a conceptual weight less than or equal to that of a single Yama King? Because that's what I'm talking about.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
...I feel the need to pull up DragonParadox's exact quote now. It's not as if all Outsiders are made equal some are smaller and less weighty than others. Just because we could let some in doesn't at all means that a Gate alone would be enough of a crack in the Veil for Mika to crossover. Your just making assumptions at that point, we haven't even used the spell yet.
A small note here, when an Outsider passes the Gates or are summoned they embody, they have to compromise to at least some degree with the laws of the universe.
The reason was that Ethniu was basically going "Come at me bros!" to everyone including White God. Dragons absolutely can exercise their power if they are willing to take what happens afterwards.
[X] Open Calibration's Gate (Mikaboshi may not contest this, but will briefly create a cosmic alignment through which any of the demons of the Wicked City may pass; you may have to defend the gate on the other side until you can close it)
- Location
- Dallas Texas
[X] Open Calibration's Gate (Mikaboshi may not contest this, but will briefly create a cosmic alignment through which any of the demons of the Wicked City may pass; you may have to defend the gate on the other side until you can close it)
Open the path, and it's short enough that defending it shouldn't be that hard.
Open the path, and it's short enough that defending it shouldn't be that hard.
Thank you for finding this.
It doesnt really work IMO, because it makes it near-impossible to kill a Yama King, contradicts multiple setting constants, and it removes multiple interesting plot possibilities.I preferred the canon ruling where they can leave, but give up all of their buffs outside Hell, and so usually travel with a large retinue as meat shields.
But its not really something to argue about with you.
I doubt they have baby or young dogs simply waiting around for candidates.
Anyway, its Lydia; she doesnt really need a Temple Dog.
She just has to go out, and buy a bunch of Great Pyrenees, have them trained and hit them with the right charm as guard dogs for her home.
Or hit up her father's contacts for some spirit-blooded animals; Arawn's myth is specifically linked with guard/hunting dogs.
And some of the Fae do use dogs; the Leanansidhe, for example, loved hounds.
If she wants them, she can get a pack of fae/spirit-aligned dogs.
Anyway, she still has Midnight, her raven. Who we havent finished upgrading.
Get it to Familiar 4, and it will allow Lydia to fly.
Point of correction:
Creator =/= directly created. Especially since it appears to still be true that Drakul is Drakul.
Just like how in Creation the Neverborn were the ultimate source of everything with regards to the Deathlords and Abyssals, but barely ever made a direct move.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
The Gate seems like the least risky option here. If Lydia fails the roll to close it then Mika gets to send whomever is nearby for the next 15min or so as opposed to the Gate which will only stay open for 3. We have Shintai up so I think we'd be fine.
Then again it does cost 4 essence and not everything qualifies for MiM so we'd be fighting them off for 3 min with 4 motes unless MiM triggers. Maybe I'd be better to have Lash boost Lydia and bank on her being able to open and close it.
Then again it does cost 4 essence and not everything qualifies for MiM so we'd be fighting them off for 3 min with 4 motes unless MiM triggers. Maybe I'd be better to have Lash boost Lydia and bank on her being able to open and close it.
The direct quote is
This is pretty direct. This is very close to "they are first circle demon analogs". The whole "they are its nightmares manifest" is unlikely to be metaphorical, given what we know of how Primordial soul structures work.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
On that subject IIRC DP said that Mikaboshi took the wicked city from another Yomi after dealing with them somehow. Most likely a hidden weak spot or exploit on the matter.
That reminds me I actually did want to use the Crown to ask how he did that but it isn't particularly important right now.
Ok, seeing as there is some discussions about what we'll do in the future, I just want to point out:
We still haven't taken care of of that goddamn proving ground, and if we don't do it right away, I am still pretty sure it's going to be taken by someone else.
So please, let's do that and then finish that excruciatingly long arc once and for all.
Oh, and in anticipation for the charm vote that is probably coming relatively soon, we really should take the Five courts clone charm Yog made (or any other good ones if someone manages to somehow make one in the interim), it might be impossible to leave AP hell, but that doesn't mean we can't make things better when it comes to it.
Doing two things at once and still not having enough time is still doing two things at once, and the sooner you begin doing those two things, the better off you are and will be, forever.
We still haven't taken care of of that goddamn proving ground, and if we don't do it right away, I am still pretty sure it's going to be taken by someone else.
So please, let's do that and then finish that excruciatingly long arc once and for all.
Oh, and in anticipation for the charm vote that is probably coming relatively soon, we really should take the Five courts clone charm Yog made (or any other good ones if someone manages to somehow make one in the interim), it might be impossible to leave AP hell, but that doesn't mean we can't make things better when it comes to it.
Doing two things at once and still not having enough time is still doing two things at once, and the sooner you begin doing those two things, the better off you are and will be, forever.
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- washington
The mothers can already enter earth they don't cause they damage it.
- Location
- washington
You mean something else than first demon on earth right? Cause we've seen plenty of demons on earth. Also good chance there was a time long long ago where said beings of her scale were allowed on earth right?
Come on I want at least one of those ankou dogs for Lydia and not just mundane shit we should use crown questions to exploit this shit for her.
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