They need to be defused first.
Ok, sure. Modyfied the plan to say we won't say not to the loot.
I have to agree with @uju32 . We don't want him as a client. We want him as ally, because he won't always be weak.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
@Yog It probably doesn't need to be pointed out to Molly, but can you add something like- recharge when possible- to your vote? Only because yours seems like it could be rather time extensive with the "get rid of the human bombs" bit. I imagine we'd be working with the LOC and local law enforcement to better take care of that.
Yes, as a party member she gets the same amount of personal XP, though do keep in mind that if you want her to get some more stuff you can always spend from the main pool. I'm reminding you guys of this now because you are about to get a lot of XP.
"Hardened"
Comoared to us. He always will be. We came in and killed a mtehuslah and master mage with massive prep work.
He is always going to be a client state, we can just be nice about it.
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If people don't mind me asking, what are the issues with my vote? Is it suggesting he talks to White Council? Or something else? As far as I wanted to make it, it's basically twofold - fake strength now, to buy time, gather resources and make allies in that bought time, so, when the inevitable testing comes, he is prepared.
I am open to suggestions and changes
I am open to suggestions and changes
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
- Location
- washington
You know I know harrys rather slow growing though he is far better by the most current book than he is in book one. Has harry been getting at all better in this quest?
Yes, among other things he got an extra point of Prime, that means more skill at dispelling/counterspelling and working with odd/primordial forms of magic.. because *waves at the Fallen incarnation*
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I don't disagree with any part of it really. It just feels like a lot to do all at once.
[X] Remove the last of the Red Court as a show of strength
-[X] Exile
[X]Yog
Maybe we can ask Lash if she can give advice on maximizing sin yields well minimizing suffering.
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BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
@DragonParadox Did Harrowmont just close the Gate when he took the Mantle or will that come later?
Ok, added RVD use when we have privacy
Add priorities maybe? Like, "do this immediately, it's about to explode, then talk to these guys", etc.
He closed it... well for a value of closed that means 'there is no longer a draft around this door'. It never fully opened thankfully.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Keep in mind the Hand troops we need to evac, the Outsider Hourglass, and Sandra. If your going to be that thorough with it you might want to bring that stuff over from the previous vote.
Thanks.
So unlimited (bite sized chunks of) cosmic power are a go. Does the sin eater have an intimacy for causing people to sin or for guarding the gates as far as Molly can guess?
I'll put a build up with the points for it included for convenience's sake.
This splendor manifests as a mark in the shape of a simple pair of dice, though it always seems to be showing a different face each time you see it.
When the owner grants this splendor to a target, they gain an intimacy for protecting gambling as an institution if they do not already have one that would encourage similar actions.
Every time that the user affirms this intimacy enough to recover a point of willpower, whatever supernatural resource pool that use is refilled
When the owner grants this splendor to a target, they gain an intimacy for protecting gambling as an institution if they do not already have one that would encourage similar actions.
Every time that the user affirms this intimacy enough to recover a point of willpower, whatever supernatural resource pool that use is refilled
So the idea would be to make Harrowmont the owner and have him refresh the splendor once a month on the sin eater via HS. For the entire duration of the active period every scene where someone is enticed to gamble because of the sin eater's efforts feeds it as much power as it's physically capable of holding at once.
Harrowmont's oath doesn't precisely make him a servant in the sense that he has to follow orders, just that he has to feed it. With a splendor he can do that job perfectly, and hold the threat of switching back his employer back to the store brand dog kibble instead of as many high quality corruption flavored motes of fundamental essence as it can possibly eat being a thought away at all times*.
In exchange we ask for political considerations. Not totally sure on the exact details, but something to the effect of giving us the equivalent of basing rights and/or a promise to work towards advancing the position of good mortal governance in the supernatural world.
The exact terms would need ironed out, because he can't be expected to go abroad crusading with the job he just took. Even with no formal requirement he needs to be forted up and focused on local dominance to mitigate the outside's attack surfaces on this door.
The library doesn't want to be enforcement, but if they curate people to do so then it could work. They just haven't had the cover to go too far on this before, which this would give them.
Doing so also neatly solves a lot of his immediate problems, because federal office holder level security that's actually prepped for the supernatural should cover the gaps in his security while he gets up to speed with using his new power. From that point they can maintain a mutually beneficial political symbiosis across the spooky/mundane divide.
*Note that this isn't a hack we can exploit for infinite essence ourselves; unlike the sin eater we can't stay in a fixed environment engineered to do something that's compatible with a straightforward to trigger intimacy like it does.
Arlene can do it.Or he can do so himself.
Upon receiving the Mantle, he just went from a lesser sorcerer to an Arete 3+-equivalent, and thats not counting any other hidden bennies/Investments that came with the position. He's not helpless, and the agent of a Power in a city with both wyldfae and White Court vampires had to have ways to undo mental whammies if necessary.
We can give him the names, so its not an issue.
Will fix.
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Wait, whats wrong with it? I just took another look, and there's nothing wrong with the spelling.
Thats not true.
Lydia will always be weaker than us, that doesnt make her a client.
He's now the official representative of a Sin-Eater, an entity powerful enough to qualify as a Freeholding Lord, and we dont know how much power his patron can put behind him at need when he is in Vegas.
Declarations about relative power have no real basis for comparison. Especially in Vegas, the heart of his power.
I mean, feel free to go to Demonreach and challenge its Warden there. See how it turns out.
Circumstantial bonuses are very much a thing.
It does too much, it makes too many assumptions.
1)It burns Essence where it isnt necessary, bringing us down to 40%.
2) Its not his job to track down human time bombs, if any; there is no way I know of he can identify them short of intellectus
And frankly, his time right now is better spent doing actual recruitment of an organization.
Thats the sort of job you have minions for.
3) Harrowmont literally took the White Council wizard exams. He's not a neophyte; he knows how to contact the Council if he wants to, and they know how to reach him. And its not supposed to be our job to arrange that kind of diplomatic meeting anyway; Vegas and the White Council dont often have many intersecting interests.
Not to mention that we KNOW the White Council has an Outsider-affiliate infestation at the moment.
Thats just asking for trouble.
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And finally, we do not have the AP to volunteer to do most of this stuff.
Molly doesnt have infinite time or effort to spend.
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1) He's at least a bit high on power right now, and so we need to be at our best when suggesting moves that aren't enticing. Purging Red Court is unlikely to need an excellency to be agreed to. Talking to LoC and other mortals, especially WC? That we need the boost for.
2) We can help him, assuming he can't scry for them using Sandra as a focus. It's also his job if he wants it to be his job, and something that shows others, mortals most of all, that he's a caring overlord. It's good for his political image.
I can remove this part, but I think it needs to be mentioned.
3) I consider Molly to be an ally of WC in the ear against Red Court. As an ally, it's very much our business to try and foster cooperation and expand alliances. Harrowmont knows WC, yes. Does he like it? Probably not that much.
I am not staying our of global politics on this one.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Oh yeah that's a really good point @Yog. Maybe we should let Harrowmont know? We don't need to give him details but since it's his job to guard a Gate to the Outside now that's something he may need to know. We just cleared Vegas of Outsiders don't want to invite them back in.
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That's a fair point, yes. When I get home, I'll shuffle things to either remove it, or shuffle it to the next month. I assume we'll be dealing with the council spies next, I think.
It does yes.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Plan Friends, Foes, and Funds
I gotta admit, I'd prefer more dead Rampires.
Experienced Vampires are an asset in themselves, one that inevitably takes a long time to replace.
I gotta admit, I'd prefer more dead Rampires.
Experienced Vampires are an asset in themselves, one that inevitably takes a long time to replace.
- Location
- Who knows?
[X]Yog
I was implying its not really hardened because its very vulnerable.
Nah we'd win.
I would if we take the davy crocett charm. We would win, the consequences are a different thing.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Sure we can. It just isn't nearly as useful for us because we can regain 1 mote per 15 minutes rest. So any such splendor would have to compare to that and would often come up short.
I mean the last guy's cooling body is literally at our feet right now after we fought him at the heart of his power. The comparison has already been tested.
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