Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

The attack is happening at night yes? Then she would be at a full.
Only if she spends time in bleach to recover.
And if we are waiting that long, there is literally no justification not to have Molly and everyone else help Harrowmont do this shit ahead of time.

Remember that this is a ritual thats supposed to have a positive feedback cycle, as chaos feeds on chaos.
The longer its allowed to go on, the more difficult it will be to disrupt.
The more people could die in the interim, if that matters to you.
 
Only if she spends time in bleach to recover.
That was my assumption yes... If the attack is happening some hours from now due to rampire inclusion I would expect Molly to soak in a bottle before the attack because common sense.

Anyway we wouldn't have found out about this without going for uju's plan so I'll go with his strat again. Having a healer on site for an incursion sounds good.

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can we get someone from our worldsoul? they dont have to move from the ritual side,so being easy to spot is less of a problem.

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can we get someone from our worldsoul? they dont have to move from the ritual side,so being easy to spot is less of a problem.

[X]Plan Cloudburst
For the ritual magic?They wouldnt have the relevant background to be useful.
Different society, different magical tradition, different referents all round. Remember that Sanctuary didnt even know that gods existed until around a month or two ago, never mind that magical spells could invoke them.
 
Only if she spends time in bleach to recover.
And if we are waiting that long, there is literally no justification not to have Molly and everyone else help Harrowmont do this shit ahead of time.

Remember that this is a ritual thats supposed to have a positive feedback cycle, as chaos feeds on chaos.
The longer its allowed to go on, the more difficult it will be to disrupt.
The more people could die in the interim, if that matters to you.
I mean yeah, if we have nothing else to do I'd say Molly should help Harrowmont with the ritual until it's time for her to go.
The important part to me is firstly to activate the ritual at the same time as we are physically entering the tunnels and secondly to have Harry and Lash as support for the casting on it and not in the tunnels where they are less helpful and in greater danger.
 
[X] plan Fruits for the Altar
-[X] Screw this, there has to be a way to give Harrowmont the insight he needs to put out the fires until nightfall when you can deal with the arsonist herself.
--[X]Call the party and have them meet you, bringing some supplies with them
--[X] Crown questions:
---[X] Focus this scene: Optimizing the ritual for Las Vegas's current situation: 1m
---[X] Focus Harrowmont: what are his greatest immediately correctable issues as a magic user: 1m
---[X] Provide a bounty of fruits and plants as sacrifices to Persephone from your kingdom.
--[X]Tool-Transcending Constructs + Occult Excellency for the actual ritual: 2m


We are unlikely to meet Harrowmont later, we can use him as a focus. And our fruits should be an interesting offering. My reasoning is that a large scale chaos ritual might be focusable. I don't want it to become concentrated on us if not disrupted.
 
For the ritual magic?They wouldnt have the relevant background to be useful.
Different society, different magical tradition, different referents all round. Remember that Sanctuary didnt even know that gods existed until around a month or two ago, never mind that magical spells could invoke them.

You could try to just pull a storm spirit and try to use it as a battery, but storms on Sanctuary are... different. :V

Probably more danger than power out of that one.
 
I'm uncomfortable with waiting on this if we don't have to. If we're making a storm why not use that as cover to launch the attack early? Or use that factory fog recipe to produce cover if nothing else.

Showing up at the last minute is incredibly careless; our fight with Sandra should be over well before whatever she's waiting for comes to pass so that setting it off is more difficult or outright impossible*.

No other factor can be prioritized over the continent killing dirty bomb she's playing with.

If it burns down half the city and pokes holes in the masquerade it'd be a horrific tragedy. We should avoid it if at all possible, but not at all costs if one of them is "evil ritual kills everyone anyway and deals splash damage that sets up millions across the continent to die of deprivation, exposure, and growing chaos with them"

If an action doesn't material benefit defusing the bomb as quickly as possible it doesn't matter until tomorrow morning regardless of what else it does.

* We haven't actually mapped her plans with the crown very well. What are we supposed to do if we interrupt her a ritual-O'clock, win, and we learn about the backup ritual site we didn't think to ask for as they finish up? How about being off by ten minutes and allowing her to complete it anyway, or put something in motion that we can't stop in time?

Haste makes waste, but hesitation isn't harmless.

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I'd be okay with attacking as soon as we get a bit of cloud cover.

One more reason to pull off ritual and assault at the same time.
 
Isn't there a weather witch we know in Chicago that we may be able to recruit to help?

Actually, if we have hours, can't be go and recruit a squad of Wardens to help with the ritual and assault? Harry is a member of them in good standing and they know about the FFCs.
 
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I'd be okay with attacking as soon as we get a bit of cloud cover.

One more reason to pull off ritual and assault at the same time.
My read is that every plan on the board is implicitly voting to timeskip to the sundown assault because the default attack time is nightfall per that DP post, which is also when whatever she's doing starts.

Thing is we have no idea what she's actually going to do. Could be it's the last 15 minutes of months of work and it happens exactly when the sun dips completely below the horizon. Could be it ends then and the meat of what she's waiting for comes after the door is open. Could be that's just when she'll next have a chance to stab the Dragon with a ritual dagger.

The vampires are nice, but we have goblins and cyber commandos. The reds' principle value is in potentially rallying the loyalists, and we can stuff the most import ones into burlap sacks to drag down with us if we have to. Otherwise if they can't make it when we need them then they don't matter.

Same with the weather thing. If our involvement doesn't result in a material gain in our ability to assault the place as soon as physically possible then skip it.

Good luck Harrowmount, try not to explode. If you're still alive later we have an excellent deal for a reverse mortgage on your soul to go over with you.
 
Isn't there a weather witch we know in Chicago that we may be able to recruit to help?

Actually, if we have hours, can't be go and recruit a squad of Wardens to help with the ritual and assault? Harry is a member of them in good standing and they know about the FFCs.

You could get Maria, assuming you convince her to come

A squad of Wardens on the other hand would be hard to rustle up since you would first have to be given the coordinates of said squad in an active warzone, probably in South America, then you would have to extract them. There is no large gathering of Wardens outside the front. You could get Rodriguez in a relatively straightforward way... especially as he probably still has that crush on Molly.

Anyway, it is late for me, good night, see you tomorrow as the most Would-be of all the Would be Wizards of Vegas tries to prove himself.
 
Rodriguez is a water magic specialist I think, so he might be very helpful with a storm ritual.
 
[X] Let Harrowmont go aheal with his ritual just as you make your way into the tunnels, hopefully stretch Sandra's attention to the breaking point
-[X] Leave several of your party members behind
--[X] Harry, a proper wizard used to this kind of magic
--[X] Tiffany for her understanding of old powers
--[X] Mutt and Adkins, for further guarding and occult insights respectivly
 
Adhoc vote count started by Anaja on Feb 5, 2024 at 10:58 PM, finished with 88 posts and 19 votes.

  • [X]Plan Cloudburst
    -[X] Screw this, there has to be a way to give Harrowmont the insight he needs to put out the fires until nightfall when you can deal with the arsonist herself.
    -[X]Call the party and have them meet you, bringing some supplies with them
    -[X]Crown question: Focus this scene: Optimizing the ritual for Las Vegas's current situation: 1m
    -[X]Tool-Transcending Constructs + Occult Excellency for the actual ritual: 2m
    [X] Let Harrowmont go aheal with his ritual just as you make your way into the tunnels, hopefully stretch Sandra's attention to the breaking point
    -[X] Leave several of your party members behind
    --[X] Harry, a proper wizard used to this kind of magic
    --[X] Tiffany for her understanding of old powers
    --[X] Mutt and Adkins, for further guarding and occult insights respectivly
    [X] plan Fruits for the Altar
    -[X] Screw this, there has to be a way to give Harrowmont the insight he needs to put out the fires until nightfall when you can deal with the arsonist herself.
    --[X]Call the party and have them meet you, bringing some supplies with them
    --[X] Crown questions:
    ---[X] Focus this scene: Optimizing the ritual for Las Vegas's current situation: 1m
    ---[X] Focus Harrowmont: what are his greatest immediately correctable issues as a magic user: 1m
    ---[X] Provide a bounty of fruits and plants as sacrifices to Persephone from your kingdom.
    --[X]Tool-Transcending Constructs + Occult Excellency for the actual ritual: 2m
    [X] Let Harrowmont go aheal with his ritual just as you make your way into the tunnels, hopefully stretch Sandra's attention to the breaking point
    -[X] Only with the goblins
 
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