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Should Day 2 be extended by another twenty-four hours?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 83.3%

  • No

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Total voters
    12
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End of Night 5/Start of Day 6
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    • The party of nine from where they had entered in the night comes out to a party of seven, all of them looking as two more of their numbers have vanished. And so like every night prior, the two missing are revealed.



    The first is revealed as Reisen Inaba, Moon Rabbit on Earth (@Shalmoa), who 'died' from a Knock on the Head.



    The second is revealed as Alice Margatroid, Seven-Colored Puppet Master (@dinomannitro6), who 'died' from being Knocked Out In A Closet.

    And a message is left upon the table to read.

    Reevals needed on Walker's flip
    Everyone needs progressions now IMO
    Hobo's vote NAI even if late due to self-pres
    Other votes probably won't get good info at this point
    Not sure if absences are notable right now (Dino/Comi, YP to a lesser extent)
    Figure one more affordable miss ATM but needs serious discussion given game length
    Probably makes it a good spot to fill out claim space
    Wiadi, Comi, Atoms are the only unclaimed ATM
    Atoms can clear with N5 Town kill, Wiadi/Comi mech-locked out of Odd-Night TKP
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    And so the seven members of the party begin the sixth day…

    End of Day is at
     
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    • On that note I think I'm cool moving away from this conversation so I'm gonna take a look at EoD again. Cheers
     
    hugh_donnetono said:
    oh hey huh yeah that does track with ori's claim huh, fair eno -

    realization clicks

    ORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

    THE TRUE IMPOSTER REVEALS HERSELF

    YOUR FOOD IS UNFIT FOR A HOSS AND YOUR MOTHER IS QUITE INSANE, HAVE AT YOU!

    [x] Vote Ori

    (this is a meme because I am mad someone else got orin lol)
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    pfft, she's clearly Satori :V
    ...that's a page, but it's only one meme response, so. myeh. Vibes check.
    Surprised how quick this turnaround is.
    -Rosen said:
    Honestly? I'd be more willing to bet Vet/PGO over Vig, if only because the shot is really poor to make in the context of EoD1. I agree that the kill should not be claimed in any case unless absolutely necessary though.
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    Two posts later...
    -Rosen said:
    Curious of your headspace right now -- pick one lowposter you would kill over Roach.
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    That plus later sus on Shalmoa just feels kinda weird. "I believe X. By the way, why do you believe X?"
     
    Okay, this might just be the format of reading back through the 'who replied?' section skewing me, but the more I read these posts the worse it looks.
    Nanimani said:
    I tried very hard to DO THE THING last game, which left me tunnelling town the entire game.

    So I'm trying to turn that part of my brain off, like a good not tunnely person.

    I also wanna say Wiadi good but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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    Nanimani said:
    I could feel the deja vu of Nictisfocusing closing in on my brain. More towards Rosen than you, tbh, but I don't want that either way.
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    Nanimani said:
    I want to stop, but okay.
    1000% vibes based. Felt like a slidey "No, I don't want things to go the way I think they're gonna go so I'm gonna start something else to draw votes away from danger" kinda post.
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    It looks like this was shortly followed by ducking out for a raid in presumably an MMO, explaining low EoD activity. Which, fair enough, but something about this train of thought about avoiding tunneling for the sake of not tunneling town again feels like the kind of justification that'd be really convenient for scum not hunting as hard as they have as town in previous games.

    @Nanimani, I realize you're still catching up, but I'd like a better look at your thought processes than I have so far. When you get here, could I please get your thoughts on the six votes on Zaealix at EoD 1?
     
    A Wise Hermit said:
    Ditto. If I was a wolf, I would've thought him as a probable heal target both because of your point and because of his early claim; assuming that Clown Bean is actually Town Bean, that is.
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    This uh... You know the "Nictis is a risky target because protectives" thing?
    I wonder why it would be thought of as less risky?
     
    Logos said:
    @Nanimani, I realize you're still catching up, but I'd like a better look at your thought processes than I have so far. When you get here, could I please get your thoughts on the six votes on Zaealix at EoD 1?
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    Lowposter. Townies on it likely don't see much sus, but they have no strong resistance to being directed there and want to avoid the two 99L/YP (Though hell if I know why for YP, they're in the same space as 99L was preclaim for me) wagons, then go at a lowposter wagon with any momentum that they don't thing is town.
    Scum, meanwhile, either let it happen or had probably one or two members on there directing votes that way to avoid hitting one of their members.

    Again, it feels like it would be easy to explain it with YP scum, but that's too easy an answer.
     
    Shalmoa said:
    @NinetyNineLies @Cyricubed @Absum: Among Logos, Wiadi, and Cyricubed, who do you feel is most town-leaning and who do you feel is least town-leaning?
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    Wiadi most town-leaning. I super disagree with the D1 YP read and don't like the "why Zaealix" from someone who wasn't there and did not give alternatives. But the overall activity is good Town to me, the YP read isn't actually anti-town (as I mentioned yesterday I don't think it would be a good push for scum) and pushing on last EoD vote is always good even if I don't like it here.

    Logos and Cyri is more difficult. All 3 of them hung back at least somewhat, so it's no real good for ranking them. I think I would go Cyri > Logos atm because Logos had some mildly sus stuff, don't recall that for Cyri. Though I expect Cyri to be better at tricking me than Logos which is why I'm unsure.

    I'd definitely like more reads from Cyri and Wiadi especially, but I'm eating and it's only an hour to New Year's so that's probably gonna wait until tomorrow.
     
    Logos said:
    Did this ever go anywhere? Quite a bit of thread has passed, which may have given more evidence for or against this impression.
    ... and could you please elaborate what you meant by Nictis/Byz?
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    It didn't because I deliberately went nowhere with it.
    I tunneled Nictis and Byzantine hard all last game, and they were townie. Got the same feelings I got towards them in that game.
    How many times do I need to say it? This is like the fourth time now.
     
    Nanimani said:
    I tunneled Nictis and Byzantine hard all last game, and they were townie. Got the same feelings I got towards them in that game.
    How many times do I need to say it? This is like the fourth time now.
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    Ah, sorry, for some reason the connection just didn't form there. Thank you for explaining.
     
    NinetyNineLies said:
    @dinomannitro6 pick three players and assign scum, neutral, or town read to them.
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    I'll do Cyricubed, -Rosen, Absum, first 3 players on the list good as any.
    ...
    Alright read through their posts. Feeling good about Cyri, decently confident theyre town. Rosen posts as expected, town-y. Absum posts are okay, probably town.
    so cyri town, and which of Rosen and Absum are neutral and scum depends on how likely I think it is that Rosen is successfully wolfing me.

    most likely just got 3 town, will have to do more sets to see if I find any suspicious.
     
    Young Pyromancer said:
    Person A is absent. Their death provides zero info.

    Person B is being weird. Their death provides ??? info.

    ??? >= zero.
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    Isn't the info in either case not related to what Person A or B does, but how those around them act? Unless they're maf, of course, in which case Person B may have especially weird interactions with other maf.
    Ori said:
    I have one and it works REALLY HARD
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    Shit, your one is bigger than my five.

    Young Pyromancer said:
    In other news, floof floof.
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    Sheep me :V
    [X] Vote A Bunch of Atoms
     
    I really need to post, but I have nothing to post about. Looking at end of D1 feels like banging my head against a wall and hoping for enlightenment. I'm just gonna... idk.

    Cyricubed said:
    Christ this is me popping in I feel Zae > Hugh inthis matter, last chance I'll prob have to pop in so I'll provide reasoning tomorrow if I'm not cursed for N1 death this game.
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    @Cyricubed would you mind sharing this now?

    Logos said:
    I don't have much on Hugh this game, but these posts stand out as good content in that I don't think we'd see them if we were in a world where both 99L and Hugh are scum. These messages would be in scum chat in that world.
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    I'm going to disagree here. I'd see this if Hugh was the only one saying this, but the first and third (fourth? does the correction count?) quotes feel more like echoing an already said sentiment.

    Also, hugh is one of the top posters, but hasn't really said much of value(?)(something something value is subjective). Even meming into D2, I can't really find myself wanting to give them the benefit of the doubt.


    Anyway, I'm going to try to find more things to say, but I'm a bit lost on what do rn (would appreciate a poke toward a more focused subject/direction than just general D1).
    Also it's nearly 3AM, so if I don't respond soon, I probably fell asleep.
     
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