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Should Day 2 be extended by another twenty-four hours?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 83.3%

  • No

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Total voters
    12
  • Poll closed .
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End of Night 5/Start of Day 6
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    • The party of nine from where they had entered in the night comes out to a party of seven, all of them looking as two more of their numbers have vanished. And so like every night prior, the two missing are revealed.



    The first is revealed as Reisen Inaba, Moon Rabbit on Earth (@Shalmoa), who 'died' from a Knock on the Head.



    The second is revealed as Alice Margatroid, Seven-Colored Puppet Master (@dinomannitro6), who 'died' from being Knocked Out In A Closet.

    And a message is left upon the table to read.

    Reevals needed on Walker's flip
    Everyone needs progressions now IMO
    Hobo's vote NAI even if late due to self-pres
    Other votes probably won't get good info at this point
    Not sure if absences are notable right now (Dino/Comi, YP to a lesser extent)
    Figure one more affordable miss ATM but needs serious discussion given game length
    Probably makes it a good spot to fill out claim space
    Wiadi, Comi, Atoms are the only unclaimed ATM
    Atoms can clear with N5 Town kill, Wiadi/Comi mech-locked out of Odd-Night TKP
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    And so the seven members of the party begin the sixth day…

    End of Day is at
     
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    • But now that I have actually thought of it, one of the investigatives basically has to be scum for ninja!hider to make any sense (still weird though)
     
    A Wise Hermit said:
    But wait wait wait wait wait, then how did Ori die though? Because there's either a strongman or a ninja right? That person can't be both a ninja and a strongman, unless I'm getting game balance completely wrong here. So it's either a strongman who went through Shal's doctor or it's a ninja that... didn't get through Shal's doctor at all?
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    Two different people, wise. The ninja tried to kill ori the night before and the strongman tried it and succeeded last night.
     
    A Wise Hermit said:
    But wait wait wait wait wait, then how did Ori die though? Because there's either a strongman or a ninja right? That person can't be both a ninja and a strongman, unless I'm getting game balance completely wrong here. So it's either a strongman who went through Shal's doctor or it's a ninja that... didn't get through Shal's doctor at all?
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    while a Ninja Strongman is possible
    though admittedly implausible

    the relevant thing here is that Cyric knows who Shalmoa targetted.
    We have absolutely 0 information on who else targetted Ori
     
    A Wise Hermit said:
    But wait wait wait wait wait, then how did Ori die though? Because there's either a strongman or a ninja right? That person can't be both a ninja and a strongman, unless I'm getting game balance completely wrong here. So it's either a strongman who went through Shal's doctor or it's a ninja that... didn't get through Shal's doctor at all?
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    The Ninja is more related to Wiadi's ping on 99L than it is on Shal's ping on Ori I think. Both Strongarm and Ninja can exist independently, but the question of whether or not we believe one exists determines whether or not we should find either of their visits suspicious.

    And, if one does exist, I'd wager they probably didn't blow a shot early, so that being the case makes both Wiadi and Shal look better at that level I think.
     
    At this point Wise is either trying to come up with cover for having defended Cyri all day and is using a misunderstanding of the powers as an excuse, or actually horribly misunderstood the powers and was so confusing no one noticed till now
     
    -Rosen said:
    The Ninja is more related to Wiadi's ping on 99L than it is on Shal's ping on Ori I think. Both Strongarm and Ninja can exist independently, but the question of whether or not we believe one exists determines whether or not we should find either of their visits suspicious.

    And, if one does exist, I'd wager they probably didn't blow a shot early, so that being the case makes both Wiadi and Shal look better at that level I think.
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    Frankly I suspect Shal is town and they burned a strongman charge because they knew there was a 50/50 of the living town doctor targeting their target.
     
    Byzantine said:
    At this point Wise is either trying to come up with cover for having defended Cyri all day and is using a misunderstanding of the powers as an excuse, or actually horribly misunderstood the powers and was so confusing no one noticed till now
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    I think that's a bridge we can't cross right now regardless TBH.
     
    Well whatever. Had literally no time to debate this and gain more info anyways. Inb4 Cyri flips green! :rofl2:

    It's going to be incredibly tragic when I die tonight and a massive conspiracy breaks out over whether or not my death was a plot or not to flip people. That's going to be fun!
     
    End of Day 4/Start of Night 4
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    • The fourth day comes to a close with a near unanimous vote. With a gesture forth, the mask comes free to reveal Aya Shameimaru, Traditional Reporter of Fantasy (@Cyricubed).

    Another member of the Party-Crashers discovered and the party now down to eleven, they go forth into their rooms to bring another night on for the party.

    End of Night will be on

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    • End of Night 4/Start of Day 5
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    • The fourth night draws to a close as ten of their number, one short of the previous night, come walking out. They look at their number, as the one who 'died' in the night is revealed.



    The sole dead is revealed, Sanae Kochiya, Ambitious and Conscientious Shrine Maiden (@Byzantine), having been Knocked Out In A Closet, during the night.

    A single message is left on the table to read.

    Vote too unanimous to not have any teammates on it
    Liking Byzantine, not liking IH afterward
    Wiadi feels down compared to D2 on Vari, low on PoE but wouldn't clear now
    Thinking Shal feels more likely Town than not at this stage WRT Cyri flip, still like the Ori save idea most
    YP still upper Town from previous game states
    Dino probably fine WRT Cyri flip
    Comi is doing quiet good IMO
    Hermit is still clearable but needs typical eval if no N4 kill IMO
    Walker/Atoms nonexistent but probably can't both be Scum
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    The ten of the party look between each other as they enter the fifth day.

    End of Day will be on
     
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    • Pretty sure I was roleblocked last night, attempted to heal dino but got notified that I was unsuccessful.

    No imminent deaths aimed my way, that I know of.
     
    [x] Vote Walker

    @Walker: To forestall any potential idea that we're not giving you proper time to coherently defend yourself, you have 71.8 hours to convince me that you're a contributing townie that can actually help us win the game.
     
    Woops, I just started typing that post. Anyway, Rip Byzantine.

    Lets see... 10 remain. So I'm town, YP and Dino probably town, (unlikely a tracker + watcher/voyeur on the same team.
    Hermit still didn't kill (smh how are you supposed to be proven).
    Rosen townie, Shal probably town.

    2 in 4 seems like pretty good odds. Walker, IH, Comi, Wiadi. In that order, from scummiest to towniest.
     
    Byzantine dead is an interesting choice, does mean I don't ever have to outline my reasons for a scum cheerleader being potentially fine, but after day 3 they were looking more town.

    Shalmoa said:
    Pretty sure I was roleblocked last night, attempted to heal dino but got notified that I was unsuccessful.
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    So... I have to ask why reveal the targeting, shouldn't you specifically want to not inform scum of your healing priority? (To be frank I'd also target Dino as a Doctor here, but whatever)

    I too look forward to YP's information whatever it may be.
     
    ComiTurtle said:
    So... I have to ask why reveal the targeting, shouldn't you specifically want to not inform scum of your healing priority? (To be frank I'd also target Dino as a Doctor here, but whatever)
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    Because I'm pretty sure some people will claim I'm not being honest and straightforward here, I pretty much said who I was going to target yesterday, and because it doesn't influence who I target tonight.
     
    ComiTurtle said:
    So... I have to ask why reveal the targeting, shouldn't you specifically want to not inform scum of your healing priority? (To be frank I'd also target Dino as a Doctor here, but whatever)
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    To answer your second question about informing scum:

    Also scum should realize that my #1 healing priority is to pick the target that is most likely to cause them frustration, and that my scatter brain methodology for finding said targets is enough wine to drink an oni under the table.

    So revealing a target like this doesn't bother me at all. If they want to choose targets to dodge me reliably, then IMO they'll have to choose bad targets that I'll benefit from seeing flipped. That's good enough for me.

    Alternatively, they can waste resources roleblocking/redirecting/or otherwise nullifying my night action while also hoping that somewhere they can get enough momentum going towards me on the day vote to get me out that way.

    But honestly, I'm also trying to make them regret each night they leave me alive, because I intend to be a resource drain for them the whole time as much as I can.
     
    different flavor then last time to be clear, and blocked not delayed, so from a different player
     
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