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Merry Christmas, DP!
Sort of? I can't find the exact ones I was looking for, but it's canon the white god is the one who changed the rules and forced anyone who wanted to keep their old power level leave earth and stay out, including proper Dragons who are explicitly peers to Titans and weaker than angels.Is there WOJ on that somewhere, because I've read the books trying to figure out why Ethniu had hands and I've found zero explanation. As far as I can tell she's just that beefy and everyone else are all just scrubs.
- Well, last book for a dragon. We're definitely doing a dragon vs wizard fight (cheers) you're not getting out of a fantasy series there. Dragons are on the same scale as titans. If titans were the construction crew, dragons were their bulldozers. If a dragon got really upset, he could tear about the universe he existed in which would admittedly be counter intuitive unless he's really nihilistic. Uriel is constrained by the above, dragons are constrained because they need somewhere to stand.
Is it even like dangerous to Uriel? Or his boss?
If Uriel just stood there in it, yeah, I mean he wouldn't, it could kill him I mean it's- again it's one of those- I mean Uriel is... he's so powerful that he's not even on the scale with everybody else. I mean yeah maybe the Eye of Balor could disintegrate Uriel if Uriel couldn't just immediately teleport anywhere or make the energy go somewhere else or basically do anything at all to defend himself. If he just stood there like a dummy, sure somebody could kill him with the Eye of Balor. He's not going to, freaking archangel.
Well as a quick follow-up then, is that-cause we know um the faerie courts and the queens and stuff they were kind of- they had to come into being for a reason, was that part of Mab's mantle's creation-to be able to stand up to kinds of things like that as like a failsafe?
I don't want to tell you too much about it just yet, but yeah I mean essentially you know Mab has a role and a purpose. So for her to be where she is, yeah is was kind of her duty to be able to stand up to threats like that. She wasn't really anticipated to /have to/ stand up to a titan because everybody was pretty sure they were all taken care of but you know Ethniu's been laying low, biding her time. But at the same time, they did what was appropriate they got everybody together to take on the threat, or at least everybody they could
Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Merlin was a mortal wizard, exceptional as he was, that he did it demonstrates it's possible for a mortal to do so. If you want to claim he was special in some exclusive way you need at least some proof to work off of.For just doing things mortals can do ehhh we've not seen any mortal wizard with comparable feats to the original merlin. For God is bigger I doubt it. Its pretty explicit the world can end in dresden files and that God won't stop the world from ending if its a result of free will or some such nonsense.
I didn't feel the need to get a cite for that because it's well established.I mean... it just looks like Dragons and Titans are just that strong, and normally don't act because it would wreck the world. Nothing about being nerfed or anything.
Even the one type of being that brought the very idea of nerfs, the gods, were never stated to be nerfed by the White God, just forced into dormancy or inactivity due to a lack of worshippers.
Uh two things there's a word of god that they can't come out cause the white god told them they can't come into reality anymore without taking risks if they want to do anything important. Also two gods aren't limited by worship their still just as powerful as far as we know their limited in their ability to come out of the nevernever. Not even sure it's a worship thing so much as acknowledging their existence thing but it's vague as far as we know.I mean... it just looks like Dragons and Titans are just that strong, and normally don't act because it would wreck the world. Nothing about being nerfed or anything.
Even the one type of being that brought the very idea of nerfs, the gods, were never stated to be nerfed by the White God, just forced into dormancy or inactivity due to a lack of worshippers.
@DragonParadox what's the month we promised to go to a convention with Rosie? Is it the next month or the month after the next?
If you listen closely you can hear Odin laughing himself sick at this in the distance.If you think about it the gods in Dresden files used to have a disability ramp to come into the mortal world. But later on God uninstalled the disability ramp and they now need to buy into mortality to come into the mortal world and actually do shit. They also apparently need fame for accessibility issues.
CiteNow one thing that I love about the Dresden Files in particular is that it's so all-inclusive, you take all the world and you look at all the mythologies and things that are in there and there's a little bit of everything in there. Now the one thing that I would love to see in the Dresden Files that I don't think would really fit anywhere else would be aliens, whether it was in the form of some magical construct that brought down aliens or if it was actual aliens but is there any chance of something like that coming into the Dresden Files?
I mean in my headcanon because this isn't really something that's been planned but in my headcanon there's two kinds of encounters with aliens in the Dresden Files universe. One when the fae are bored and they want to do something to mess with mortals' heads that's one way to get aliens. The other way is when they crash when their high-tech ships get too close to all the damn wizards on this confusing little planet. And that's how Roswell happened in the Dresden Files universe, that was the same time that Morgan was out there fighting the Skinwalker and it was Morgan throwing magic around that brought the spaceship down.
But so really the aliens have basically just hung up a beacon just outside the solar system that says "this planet is just too weird to bother with, stay away".
CiteHow do you determine the powerscaling of all the different pantheons you use in the series?
I use the five dot scale from World of Darkness way back in the day. So basically if a normal human could do it or do it using tools and equipment that's one dot, if it's somebody who is clearly supernatural and could really whip up on regular mortals on a steady basis that's two dots, heavyweight white council folks they're three dots, like that. It's just different weight classes is what I do, so.
It makes sense really the nevernever can get really dangerous depending on where you are and I'm not sure this is a good word but getting deeper in the layers probably makes it likely you don't make it out. But, like if you got really fucking deep you may as well never get back anyways.As a thread Christmas present, here's some sketchy WoJ transcriptions that are pretty hilarious:
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I haven't actually watched the cited interviews and there's weird contradictions with other stuff from prior WoJs, like lord Raith not actually having immunity to mortal magic*, but Morgan causing Roswell by unknowingly catching aliens in his AoE while fighting a Naagoloshi and DF factions actually being made with the 5 dot scale in mind is too funny not to share.
* and apparently the nevernever does actually go everywhere instead of being concentrated around the solar system. No one has made it past the moon yet but apparently Margaret, probably meaning Harry's mom and not the other ones, was hardcore enough to have potentially make something work in that direction if she'd lived longer.