Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Cao Chun leaned on his cane heavily. "I do not know who taught you your manipulations girl, but they are skilled. "You tell me to my face that you do not believe it will be so, but instead, play on my rightful pride in our institutions."

There was, Ling Qi thought, value in ambiguity. Truth was important, but… without varnish it was a blunt thing, a hammer or a wildfire.

Under the Hui burning every scheme equally had been the right action. She did not think it would be so forever. She felt a faint itch under her eye, a meridian twisting.

No unvarnished truth was not always the right way. SIncerity in your communication was important, truth as a virtue in itself, was less so.

"I know what you believe, and I am explaining how my actions may pay out under that perspective," Ling Qi said. "I am only providing information, and asking you to examine it. If you think it is nonsense, just say it is so."

  1. The future changes with every step, never be certain you know what is coming (Causality, Mystery, Chaos)
  2. It is the artist's duty to question. The trickster's role to make fools of the mighty. Hold the mirror to history and tradition, and reveal their absurdities.(Creation, Expression, Truth)
  3. -Empty-

Trust arises from choice. Love arises from trust. There can be no perfect safety, save in death. For love or trust to exist, so must the chance of heartbreak and betrayal. (Courage, Choice, Expression)

Because for communication to mean anything, for two minds to remain themselves, the choice of silence had to exist, Ling Qi thought, scattered fragments of thought pinging between her deliberately scattered self, which flew and skittered and flowed through the dream and the shadows under nowy boughs, the frozen forest reforming again as the Nightmare Lord reasserted himself.

Because if one wanted friends, family… even closer love, there would always be some unknown left, some need for faith and trust, else she would be surrounded by mirrors and puppets in truth.

She could have kept watching, peered into that last little bit Sixiang had held back from her, interrogated just what the word 'love' meant to the muse. But she wouldn't force that.

It all came back to her assertion, the difference between what she feared and what she wanted was choice. And you had to be able to choose to hold things back. She pulled on her qi in the way that had occurred to her, and her scattered presence expanded.

It was impossible to know someone perfectly, without being them. Shu Yue had asserted that. And on further thought Ling Qi really felt she understood that more clearly now. People hid things, held things back. Remained silent when they shouldn't have. And that was the people she was closest two, let alone acquaintances and strangers. But the right solution wasn't to cut everything off from yourself and accept no strings at all. She was also sure of that. To achieve someshe could accept she could neither blindly trust, nor rip the truth from other minds. Neither path was acceptable.

She had to be able to seek, she had to be able to hide. Privacy and secrets, and choosing whom one shared such treasures with were necessary, to the path she was beginning to see. Choice, that vital thing, was at the heart of her resolution. Her Communication. Mutuality was needed for the sharing of secrets.

And when there were things that would not, could not be shared. She needed to be able to keep them.


She felt something in her meridians with that realization, a stirring of the cool, dark qi that ran within many of them. The Hidden Moon was not only a seeker of secrets. It was also their keeper. Like the Dreaming and the Nightmare, divided against itself.

My post on Discord + some quotes:

I've been thinking of a cool idea for SNR, Veils, they represent the transition between yourself and others. They represent ambiguity; neither the Bai Mask nor the bare face, not the Truth and not the Lie, but something in-between Ambiguous. Selectively Obscuring, like a good Mystery or Story. It can go fantastically well with her soon-to-be-awakened battle gown and Magical Girl Transformation.

It can even combine with PLR to make a schrodinger's cat situation. Armor through Ambiguity, Armor through Puns!


She was aware that in the household, and a certain village where he had raised a fortress wall against a tide of impurity, Zhengui was already receiving some amount of prayers. Fertility of the earth, good fortune and wealth… The last part was probably because of his name.

Even her puns had power. Such a dangerous feeling it was, to have something that simple and childish rippling out. It was probably her best pun, with multiple methods of reading. Precious, true turtle, expensive…
 
Came up with a pretty cool name for a Successor based off this idea too. "Morning Mist Veil", shifting from the lake to the mist that shrouds it in the early hours of the morning, in the transition from night to day. If Isolation is our Sword, then Ambiguity can be our Armor.
 
if you guys want more inspiration for the veil:

She was standing backward inside of her own body, which stood frozen in perfect stillness, just like the world around them. She heard tinkling laughter and finally looked back up to see three figures resolving in the mist. To her right stood Xin, giving her an amused but apologetic smile. She wore her gown of red and blue, and her silver hair hung loose blowing in a phantom wind. Directly in front of her was a tall and willowy woman, clad in pale grey silk, with her long ink black hair tied back in a braid that wrapped twice around her neck, and hung down from shoulder. Her gown was a gauzy thing of billowing silk, cloaking the movements of her limbs. Behind the woman's black veil, only a wide grin was visible. Last of all, to her right was a matronly woman with glittering eyes, so much like Sixiang, save for her age and overt femininity. She wore an elaborate gown with a high feathery color, her hue changing hair woven into an complex web of ornaments.

The description of the Emerald Seas' Grinning Moon.
 
Well, on another topic the wiki is going strong and we're slowly adding stuff to it.

Pages people might find as useful resources are the fairly comprehensive summary of most of the Imperial Clans we know about, and the chapter summary, which I've just finished up through Forge on. It's fully linked through to both SV and RR, so hopefully - if it works as intended - it should be an easier way to track things down when you're trying to look up that scene you remember instead of guessing which threadmark it is.
 
Lay of the Lakes 2
"Explain this failure now."

Her Lady's voice was a whipcrack, as cold as the depths of Lake Hei, and it filled Xiao Yan with shame and the taste of bile in the back of her throat.

"I was outmaneuvered, Mistress, there are no excuses."

She had pride enough for that, to give petty 'explanations' that were but the cringing excuses of cowards who did not know their duty.

Even if Lady Mingxia's plan to strike at her cousin had been impossible to begin with. Xiao Yan had achieved the fourth realm, it was true that she was of similar cultivation to the other viper on guard, but they had century's experience on her. Even if the target was only Bai Luxi's pet blue caste formations engineer and not the Serpent himself, the eccentric who delved so deeply into the arts of the lesser castes. The defenses on that workshop had been fiendish in their cruel complexity.

No, these pathetic excuses were beneath her, she crushed the whisper in the back of her mind, knowing it was a sign of her unworthiness that she had even thought them.

"It displeases me to see your devotion is so shallow Xiao Yan, you bear not even a scratch," Bai Mingxia observed. There was no light in this study, save for the fireflies that flitted about over the waters and garden terraces outside, and the pale glow of the moon. Her Mistress' study was neat, her walls hung with scrolls containing passages of the classics, her shelves filled with the writing of the ancestors.

Her Mistress was much the same as she had been when they had met near a hundred years ago now. Her youthful beauty had taken on a harsh and ageless quality, and her hair was no longer kept loose and free, but arranged into elaborate looping braids through bladed combs and ornaments, in the style popular in the court of Zhengjian. Her cosmetics were understated, save for the dark lining which so enhanced the intensity of her gaze.

"I judged that ensuring that there could be no evidence of my presence more valuable than attempting to press on in unfavorable conditions," Xiao Yan said, lowering her head still further, until her forehead was pressed to the floor in full kowtow. "I accept all consequences."

The fan in her Mistress grip snapped shut, and it took all of Xiao Yan's discipline not to flinch. She felt the pressure on her back ratcheting up, as if she were sinking deeper and deeper beneath the surface of the ocean, to the places where mortals and low cultivators alike would be crushed to paste.

"And so the insult against me stands. The humiliation of having my proposals for waterway infrastructure ridiculed before the whole court. Cast down in favor the words of a mere Blue Cobra, and his barely socialized master. Bad enough that I must navigate these infuriating rulings on proper procedure by the new Head. My ambitions for the governorship of Lujian have been set back decades, Xiao Yan. It must be punished."

Each word made self loathing well up in Xiao Yan's heart, that she could do nothing to alleviate her Mistress' suffering.

"If you had shown Luxi too weak to protect his toy this may have changed. Now though… There is nothing. Nothing but retreat and replanning my path. If…"

Xia Yan kept her head pressed against the floor, knowing she had earned every word of rebuke.

***​
Bai Mingxia looked down at her servant, fury, relief, and self loathing alike mingling in her heart. It was a potent toxic stew, the match for any of her toxins. Before an hour had passed, she had regretted her impulsive order. Before an hour had passed, she had nearly shredded the hems of her gown plucking at them, because the necessities of stealth and deception meant she could not contact Xiao Yan.

Her rage at her humiliation was real. She had spent years arranging herself the correct contacts, collecting information and research on the spirits of lake and river, and when the day had come to present them to the Governess of the North… some… some lab living wretch had wandered out and shamed her by tearing apart her presentation and giving his own proposals. The fact that Bai Luxi had not even had malice for her made it worse. He was just that obsessed with civic formations.

He had even admitted that most of the plan had come from a lowly Ministry of works clerk, only the polish and higher knowledge coming from himself.

And the Governess, newly installed by The head in all but name Bai Suzhen, had agreed that it had more merit.

She sucked in a breath. Looking down at Xiao Yan. Her faithful Viper. She had changed since they had met all those decades ago, her figure filling out with muscle, her hair kept in coiled tightly wound braids wrapped close to her scalp. She was littered with scars, from so so many successful actions.

Each scar was a mark of clumsiness, a reminder to be better, and so she had instructed Xiao Yan to keep them. To remind her to be better, to command more ably.

She had still almost thrown that away in a fit of temper.

"If you were anyone, anyone but my Viper, I would strike you down for this failure," she whispered.

And for making her heart hurt so much. She should be better than this, a Viper was a most valued tool, but they were only meant to be that. The thought of losing her was not meant to hurt like this.

Especially when she had done nothing wrong. Xiao Yan should have been better. How could she lose to that fool's servant like this? How could she have sent her into a situation, with so little intelligence?

She was so glad there were no new scars.

"Rise. I am tired of staring at your back."

Xiao Yan slowly pushed herself up from the floor, her eyes still downcast, her broad shoulders set with tension. As she rose to her knees, Bai Mingxia allowed the torrent of emotion within her some release.

She seized the front of the taller woman's gown and dragged her lips up against her own. Harshly, she kissed her servant, fangs piercing her lip in rebuke, their venom no more than a minor sting to one of the true Bai blood.

"Do better, next time. There are limits, even for you," she said softly. It was soft of her, to do this, to be so kind, but she just couldn't…

"I understand. Mistress. I will not err so badly again," Xiao Yan said, looking up at her. Those eyes, that made her feel so very…. Soft glinting in the dark.

"See that you do not," she replied, and then their lips met again, and there was no more need for words.
 
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Yikes. The Bai retainer route really was the worst choice back in Forge.
I love interacting with them, but the more I see their internal culture the happier I am we didn't end up going with Meizhen.
 
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Ya. Becoming a retainer would have either meant the death of Qi's personality that Meizhen loved, or a possibly literal death from other Bai trying to kill either of us for breaking from clan ways.
 
Yikes. The Bai retainer route really was the worst choice back in Forge.
I love interacting with them, but the more I see theit internal culture the happier I am we didn't end up going with Meizhen.
It was never terribly subtle that the Thousand Lakes are a snake pit in every sense. I think the retainer route could've been fun in its own way, but it would also be pretty exhausting and nerve-wracking.
 
Her rage at her humiliation was real. She had spent years arranging herself the correct contacts, collecting information and research on the spirits of lake and river, and when the day had come to present them to the Governess of the North… some… some lab living wretch had wandered out and shamed her by tearing apart her presentation and giving his own proposals. The fact that Bai Luxi had not even had malice for her made it worse. He was just that obsessed with civic formations.

He had even admitted that most of the plan had come from a lowly Ministry of works clerk, only the polish and higher knowledge coming from himself.
The mark of a great author, giving readers what they didn't know they wanted: a Bai autist. I wonder if he'd get along with Renxiang's dad? Also, this bodes well for the SnekxSpooder ship. Meizhen + Suzhen might be able to protect the autist spider.

And the Governess, newly installed by The head in all but name Bai Suzhen, had agreed that it had more merit.
Suzhen's great.
 
The Bai route being the worst option wasn't exactly subtle, what with Meizhen being reluctant to offer in the first place and severely advising against it.

Only literal actual romantic love between them--as in actual love, not toxic codependence--could have made it a choice worth taking... and even then it'd have been a rocky road indeed, but one it might be worth risking.

And such romantic love didn't exist between them, so, yeah.
 
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