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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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Artemis1992 said:
We are loosing them as foci.
Not a big deal for our mundane friends, but something to note.
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That's why I targeted the scene, which we've been allowed to do before. It makes the question sound clunky, but something like "what selection would be made here if there were no barriers to communication?" Would have the same result as asking what they're thinking as long as they've already made a choice and we've committed to following it before we ask.

Yog said:
So, on the subject of embassies - we probably want embassies of our main customers at least. Depending on whether our advanced magical equipment works near the Gates, those are likely to be Winter, White Council and Library of Congress / USA government. I wonder if we could swing a formal recognition as a foreign head of state from USA government out of this. Meet the president and all.
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We should be careful about this. We don't really want it to be that easy to get in and right now the rules are a little unclear.

Giving out footholds in our soul like candy could easily backfire.
 
Goldfish said:
We could send Daniel to our Hell for cybernetic augmentation and combat training. That would get him out of the way for a while and power him up. Just need to run it by Lydia and Charity...what could go wrong?
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While I'm really dubious about sending him to train here (at least for a prolonged period of time before he settles his issues), I will be reworking the design of his transformation talisman with our Kingdom's aesthetics. A SUTRA core (holding the image of his transformed form), casing made from iron taken from the heart of our hurricane, and forged at the center of our power. Make him a proper

Incidentally, we should do what crafting we can here, because we have indefinite shintai here, we are rolling dexterity + craft for crafting for most rolls, and we have +4 dice in shintai for that. Plus if kingdom is signaure, we would be getting free -1 DC for involving our kingdom.
KonradC said:
Do we really need to rape masquerade that hard right now? I wouldn't say no to preliminary talks, but full on recognition may overwhelm Molly right now. She isn't even familiarised herself with government of her hell, and talks like that should be held with her own relevant bureaucrats/bureaucratic apparatus
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Yeah, ok, later. Probably much later.
BronzeTongue said:
We should be careful about this. We don't really want it to be that easy to get in and right now the rules are a little unclear.

Giving out footholds in our soul like candy could easily backfire.
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True. But going full-on hermit kingdom also doesn't work. Not when denizens of our hell are already setting out to try and explore other worlds. I wonder - when history of Earth moon missions becomes known, will we see Court Moon program?
 
[X] Plan Making Choices including delays
-[X] Explain the medical situation to Alec and Izzy and present the options available. Include "sedation until the effect normally wears off".
-[X] Ask them to think on it for a few minutes, then make a choice when she taps them on the hand. At which point she'll use divination to learn what they decided on.
—[X] Use the crown targeted at the scene to pick up what choice they made.
-[X] Proceed with the treatment options they select

I do think this is the best option. They were taken against their will, and they had things done to them. They can't even move their bodies currently. They need to be given some control over their situation.
 
Yog said:
Incidentally, we should do what crafting we can here, because we have indefinite shintai here, we are rolling dexterity + craft for crafting for most rolls, and we have +4 dice in shintai for that. Plus if kingdom is signaure, we would be getting free -1 DC for involving our kingdom.
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But how do we apply CCC in our kingdom? We are able to leave at any time.
 
Yog said:
True. But going full-on hermit kingdom also doesn't work. Not when denizens of our hell are already setting out to try and explore other worlds. I wonder - when history of Earth moon missions becomes known, will we see Court Moon program?
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It's not a one or the other sort of thing. We could buy office space in reality and run something similar out of that.
 
Yog said:
True. But going full-on hermit kingdom also doesn't work. Not when denizens of our hell are already setting out to try and explore other worlds. I wonder - when history of Earth moon missions becomes known, will we see Court Moon program?
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I'm… not sure the moon is really reachable in the same way in the Courts? It isn't a massive universe, merely an isolated creation, and I would expect the moon to be a feature more than a location, or at least not a full planetoid. It cycles our realm like the realm moon seem to, but there is nothing over the horizon, so there would have to be some real weird stuff to be a place you can be.
BronzeTongue said:
It's not a one or the other sort of thing. We could buy office space in reality and run something similar out of that.
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I think a single well-guarded portal will be fine to start with, especially if it can be closed court side. Sure portals are a danger, but not one we should avoid forever in lue of letting our kingdom reach the world more freaky.
 
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BronzeTongue said:
That's why I targeted the scene, which we've been allowed to do before. It makes the question sound clunky, but something like "what selection would be made here if there were no barriers to communication?" Would have the same result as asking what they're thinking as long as they've already made a choice and we've committed to following it before we ask.
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While intensely studying an object, situation, or individual that is within her line of sight, the Infernal may spend

It works.
 
Aria the Mage said:
How long do we think the tea will take to brew? Not exactly, but closer to like, 20 minutes, a few hours?
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After considering what you know about the local herbs, minerals and other reagents you realize you know enough to brew the correct tea, to balance their chi. But it is going to take a bit longer than either letting the healers do their best or...
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Apparently this tea takes a while to cook.
 
powergoat said:
I think a single well-guarded portal will be fine to start with, especially if it can be closed court side. Sure portals are a danger, but not one we should avoid forever in lue of letting our kingdom reach the world more freaky.
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The problem isn't one well guarded portal. The problem is that the way DF stuff works once people figure out the association mapping they might be able to just teleport in wherever they like.

It seems like DP is leaning towards it being more complicated to get in than that, but if we go out of our way to open it up then we could very well end up opening it further than we intend.
 
BronzeTongue said:
The problem isn't one well guarded portal. The problem is that the way DF stuff works once people figure out the association mapping they might be able to just teleport in wherever they like.

It seems like DP is leaning towards it being more complicated to get in than that, but if we go out of our way to open it up then we could very well end up opening it further than we intend.
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From what I understand, even if we make a portal somewhere, the only way for people to make a Way to the place would be in our presence against our willpower- the only other way I could see it is with that Wasteland charm that would turn a part of the world into a reflection of our soul, that might create a strong enough link. Besides, it is not as if our realm is a safe place to infiltrate, it is an entire world of sorcerer cyborgs with AI surveillance all over the place. Between the city of battles and city of scrolls I am sure they could have very good counter-espionage once they are aware of the dangers. Fey especially would hate that place, way too much Iron.
 
Besides the Jade Dogs, I wonder if any of the Order of the Cauldron would also be up to hellish immigration. A good number of them should be withought attachments and drawn to the possibilities.
 
On the topic of how tech in our kingdom is different from earth it seems that from the very beginning SUTRAS of various complexity were considered to be an important component in anything that you don't want to break down. That being the case they might have never actually made standard operating systems as we think of it. Programming is more like a training manual for the machine spirits then a algorithm of rigid instructions.

Which also suggests that the whole idea of hacking where you can just throw loads of shit at sometimes until you find a vulnerability likely doesn't work and has never worked in our kingdom. Also that people are far more attached to their equipment given that you have to learn it's quirks and train it. No getting a new IPHONE every year.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Yzarc on Aug 16, 2023 at 9:08 PM, finished with 76 posts and 19 votes.
  • [X] Plan Making Choices including delays
    -[X] Explain the medical situation to Alec and Izzy and present the options available. Include "sedation until the effect normally wears off".
    -[X] Ask them to think on it for a few minutes, then make a choice when she taps them on the hand. At which point she'll use divination to learn what they decided on.
    —[X] Use the crown targeted at the scene to pick up what choice they made.
    -[X] Proceed with the treatment options they select
    [X] The doctors can handle it, lack of experience with the unenchanted or no they are healers
    -[X] If they need a pediatrician, suggest teleconferencing one
    -[X] Spend time explaining what is happening and calming your friends, even if they can't answer you
    --[X] Empathy excellency
    [X] Harry can fix this, you're sure
    [X] Brew tea to balance their chi
    [X] Rather than delay treatment to find a more qualified physician or rely on the mystical solutions we or Harry might be able to come up with, ask that Izzy and Alec be sedated so they can comfortably sleep off the effects of the paralysis.
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[X] Plan Making Choices including delays
-[X] Explain the medical situation to Alec and Izzy and present the options available. Include "sedation until the effect normally wears off".
-[X] Ask them to think on it for a few minutes, then make a choice when she taps them on the hand. At which point she'll use divination to learn what they decided on.
—[X] Use the crown targeted at the scene to pick up what choice they made.
-[X] Proceed with the treatment options they select

Patient centred care, including patient autonomy, is the most ethical path to perceive.
 
[X] Plan Making Choices including delays
-[X] Explain the medical situation to Alec and Izzy and present the options available. Include "sedation until the effect normally wears off".
-[X] Ask them to think on it for a few minutes, then make a choice when she taps them on the hand. At which point she'll use divination to learn what they decided on.
—[X] Use the crown targeted at the scene to pick up what choice they made.
-[X] Proceed with the treatment options they select
 
So our friends almost got turned into cyborgs? I guess that teaches us a lesson. Our citizens may very well missinterpret our intent, or carry it out in an unwanted fashion due to culture clash.
 
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DragonParadox said:
"Also does anyone have a secure slate?" you ask looking around.

Surprisingly it is the woman with the hair-implants, Firm Instigator of Peace, or Fip, who answers to the affirmative. Having even less fidelity than a low-jack slates are generally used by those who for personal or spiritual reasons have chosen to forego a machine-mind interface or who do not trust the local SUTRAs, neither of which makes much sense for a member of Palace security. The slate itself it is probably one of the most high-tech on the planet, a wafer thin thing of brass and beryl packed with magically cooled super-conductor that is still a generation maybe two ahead of what is commercially viable.
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Also it occurs to me that most people might actually have a bit of trouble using a strange slate with unknown machine spirit that was just handed to them, but Molly has DPE and passes all the required social checks for dealing with a new cyberdevil without even noticing. Also all the Cyberdevil are loyal to Molly.
Kestrel21 said:
IS there any reason not to use devil-invested cybernetics? I'd understand if this was something more serious like replacing body parts, but I don't see the issue with a small stud that can, I presume, be easily removed afterward. Or is it the 'devil' part? I'd have assumed they're safe to use, despite the name.
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Well it might get you marked as a COD which isn't something that the people here worry about.
 
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Another thing- with our summoned machine spirits from Hollow Mind Possession like clipy, if their shell breaks do they now enter the Noosphere of the Courts in our soul rather then just sleeping in our anima?
 
powergoat said:
Another thing- with our summoned machine spirits from Hollow Mind Possession like clipy, if their shell breaks do they now enter the Noosphere of the Courts in our soul rather then just sleeping in our anima?
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Many of our charms are likely to work just a little bit differently

Viridian Legend Exoskeleton might be written in Seeker Speech and speak of the glories of our world.

Tool-Transcending Constructs are no longer all repurposed torture implements of the wicked city but tools from our cities.

Hollow Mind Possession we can get more socialized cyber devils. And they might go back to our hell when not in use.

Basically before we have been copying the hells, but now are better able to put our own spin on things.

DragonParadox said:
Stash Sufficient to upgrade the Dragon's Nest in Chicago to Dragon's Nest ● ; Must be recovered as part of a later action to use.
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Do we still have to do this personally or can we get some minions to do it?
 
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fictionfan said:
But how do we apply CCC in our kingdom? We are able to leave at any time.
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That's actually a question. We normally have to roll Wits + Occult against a difficulty of our own Willpower (which is 9) to enter. And we can only spend up to 5 days inside. However, there's nothing written about how we leave. People we leave inside can stay as long as they want and may leave on their own by escaping our Kingdom physically. So, if we have to roll same Wits + Occult to leave, then CCC might apply. Also, CCC should probably apply to our attempts to enter our kingdom by default.
BronzeTongue said:
It's not a one or the other sort of thing. We could buy office space in reality and run something similar out of that.
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Yeah, that's probably a better idea, at least to start with.
powergoat said:
I'm… not sure the moon is really reachable in the same way in the Courts? It isn't a massive universe, merely an isolated creation, and I would expect the moon to be a feature more than a location, or at least not a full planetoid. It cycles our realm like the realm moon seem to, but there is nothing over the horizon, so there would have to be some real weird stuff to be a place you can be.
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Would you believe that I haven't thought of this when making our realm? I am now regretting now making something about "ever-changing and never-same face of the moon, going through fixed cycles, but always displaying a new visage upon its surface. Never recognizable, but always familiar enough to trigger pareidolia in those gazing upon it". In any case, it would be an interesting project. It might lead to our explorers emerging into real world in different places than normally at least, when they leave confines of our kingdom. Perhaps not into real world at all.
fictionfan said:
No getting a new IPHONE every year.
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Well, you could transfer the machine spirit from one device to the other. Through the turning of the wheel, if nothing else.
BoredMan said:
So our friends almost got turned into cyborgs? I guess that teaches us a lesson. Our citizens may very well missinterpret our intent, or carry it out in an unwanted fashion due to culture clash.
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I would hardly call a small diagnostic implant "turning into cyborgs". I mean, I have tooth fillings (and an artificial tooth) and people have hearing aids and glasses, and society usually doesn't consider any of us cyborgs.
 
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