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no they literally don't animals do though and foods not a worry.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
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Individual members, otherwise the Fae Courts would never do anything, which I doubt Mab, as the creator of the Accords, would allow. Likewise for the Vampire Courts, which often cannot stand each other.
Harry: I really need to stop hanging out with any and all females, always too much trouble.
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two uses of is is rather than it is.
This is really good. Thank you so much for writing, the dramatic payoff is excellent, and the rest of the writing is really good too.
[X] Ascend the Throne, he's right you can handle the rest of this later, but if people are waiting, if people are watching they should see a ruler, not a confused girl
Marcone isn't in the club yet, he would have gotten it over the next year in part using gains we stole from him by solving the white court problem ourselves.
You have a point however, I wouldn't trade a major favor for it but Winter wants people to sign the Accords so getting their buy in should be cheap.
We owe Odin a lot though, so I'd prefer to pressure Lara into supporting us* and then making a deal with the council for the third.
Wizards aren't likely to trust us unless they see a clear profit motive for the demon queen, and very narrowly even then, so making a deal like that would be a low intensity way to progress an institutional relationship with them without pressing all their paranoia buttons.
There's also the fellowship of st Giles if we want someone a little more flexible. They're friends to the council and generally on the side of the angels, but they're also playing Tok'ra to the red court's Goa'uld.
They're hungrier as an organization, more willing to do potentially shady stuff like say trade for trained war beasts from a new demon queen.
Which is something we should be able to do without issue even with the default rules of our hell.
If you look at the animal life section we have some very dangerous critters around that our people already train for various purposes at one level or another, and it's no more or less morally charged to sell them or use them than it is to do the same with attack dogs.
Giles is usually a touch more subtle than "7 by 30 meter steel shelled dinosaur carrying optionally manned auto cannons" but we have options ranging from that to dog sized available.
Something to counter rampire demon summoning would probably be popular. Maybe 4-5 member velociraptor-equivalent kill squads?
* A movie studio isn't equal payment to establishing a new political order, and the people we killed were basically given to us to satisfy our prior agreement. She owes us and we have the leverage to make it stick even if Lara never formally agreed to give us any favors for it.
They are not, too many rules about having to play nice with literal monsters.
No, because the Denarians are and because the rules allow for things like collectively enforcing bargains that the white god will not support. Like soul trading.
That said, not being in the Accords is sort of like being a rogue state. Your citizens just don't have the same rights as ones from acknowledged nations when interacting with the broader world.
I suspect we could scrape by without it, though there are definite personal advantages to being a formally acknowledged head of state, but anyone from our world who wants to poke earth/the nevernever would be worse off for not being under it.
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I'mma note we probably shouldn't be praising the catholic church even in a setting like dresden files we know they have moles and holes in their security like swiss cheese. Also you know likely don't have plenty of policies we support. Like they have good people and even people who would be our enemies who aren't bad. But, their not exactly all paragons of goodness here.
Edit: People like Michael and forthill are exceptional not unique sure but exceptional none the less. We are not getting a positive relationship with most of the church not with what we are. Nor should we emulate them well most of them.
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Looks like we have pretty clear consensus already.
@DragonParadox, if you would happen to have an inclination to push out a second update later tonight, don't think anybody would complain.
@DragonParadox, if you would happen to have an inclination to push out a second update later tonight, don't think anybody would complain.
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By the by, now that we see Usum is walking around in our world, and I assume we can still talk to him when outside, can we trust him to act as a our voice and ears for our kingdom when we aren't there?
Also, nice that all of Yogs posts on the Hall were moved to Informational
Also, nice that all of Yogs posts on the Hall were moved to Informational
Can we trust Usum? Absolutely. He's incapable of being disloyal. He IS us to a significant degree.
Can we trust Usum when we are not there? Depends on if Usum can actually exist when we are not there.
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I mean less 'trust him to be loyal' and more 'trust him to speak in Molly's name', since he is full on the Godqueen train and definitely has some strong different opinions on some stuff, so even if he is perfectly loyal there may be some minor consequences to letting him have free reign of the place.
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I mean just give him guidelines he WILL follow them. Asides administration already exists.
I mean...
He's right.
Can't really argue with him when he's factually 100% correct and nobody here is going to argue with him or even think what he's saying is strange.
The question is less "who do we leave in charge" if Usum remains when we go and thus is an option. It's "who do we leave as court jester?" to remind everyone to not go TOO crazy with the whole godqueen thing.
I nominate Bob. He would love it here.
OHHH... I just realized something.
Our hell doesn't have dawn. There is no sunrise to banish disembodied spirits and break unanchored magical enchantments. If Bob comes to our Hell he could, if allowed, stay outside his skull.
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Frankly the Accords are to small time for Molly. Molly better off making her own treaties independent of it.
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This is a very stupid comment. Even gangs can still feasibly kill us with guns.
I don't know why this is a discussion our civs government is fine it has leaders.
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By the by, some quick math and assuming 90% of the population is within the city's, at 900 million per city, the population density is over 10 times higher then any city on earth- not an over pop problem with futuristic architecture ofc, but I wouldn't even want to imaging what it would be like at 50bil instead of 5bil
We don't know them and they don't know us. They don't know about Earth or any of our plans for Earth. I question not their loyalty or competence, but their context. I don't suggest Usum be left to micromanage and run their society. I suggest Usum be left (if he can) to coordinate their society with our larger goals.
My impression is that the cities are far more vertical than Earth cities. They are built in the habitable zone of giant spires. It would make sense they go up rather than out, especially because with technology I bet you can build pretty far into the uninhabitable areas so long as comfort is not a major concern, so good for industry and such. You can't build out without literally building more "ground" so to speak.
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Very true. Obviously Molly's arrival is going to be a huge deal on various social and religious grounds, but as I understand it the place is much closer to a utopia than Dresden's earth by a LONG shot and not just because it lacks the Dresdenverse's monsters.
Molly will inevitably make changes, but it's probably a good idea to leave as much power as possible in the hands of those who have made responsible use of it up to this point rather than just grabbing for more control willy-nilly. If we find a problem, then maybe start interfering. She'll have her hands full with just the responsibilities already put on her by the religious position anyway.
Could I see your math? Because mine worked out differently. I actually did calcs and the Cities were quite spacious:
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Huh, yeah I missed a zero here and there, and looking at it now it's almost the opposite, which feels kinda weird. Mega cities feel a lot less 'mega' with so much open space.