It's on there, worst wingwoman
That is fair, but I do not want to throw an extra 19 dices on all crafting. I think halving that and adding to the crafting should be resonably balanced, Molly only has to much attention span.
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It's on there, worst wingwoman
That is fair, but I do not want to throw an extra 19 dices on all crafting. I think halving that and adding to the crafting should be resonably balanced, Molly only has to much attention span.
- Location
- Germany
That doesn't sound right.
You are not better at painting, forging, etc. because you don't use your hands.
If anything our crafting-dicepool for working through MHM should always be the lower of our skill+attribute or the MHM pool.
More than fair. Would buying By Rage Recast:Extra Limbs (telekinesis), which increases Molly's multi-tasking ability remove the half part or otherwise affect this?
You get a tool, and it's an incredible tool. I don't know if you do this in your life, but I would give a lot to be able to telekinetically control wires when soldering. Basically, this expands the design and manipulation possiblities by a lot.
I think it is fair to hand more dice for being able to go Sorcerer's Apprentice on projects, you can hold more tools and move them around in ways it's hard with just personal flight.
- Location
- Earth
[X] Plan: Infernal on the Warpath
-[X] The Worst Wingwoman: Apparently Sandra had set you up to break the Laws of Magic as part of a plot against Harry and probably dad as well come to that. It's about time you find her and have a talk to her about that
-[X] Chariots for the One Eye: As part of her deal to ally against the Will of Kakuri you promised Odin vehicles fit for his warriors, time to show your chops.
-[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
-[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (6/10) [+extra AP from potion]
-[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (2/10 progress )
-[X] Attend school
-[X] The Worst Wingwoman: Apparently Sandra had set you up to break the Laws of Magic as part of a plot against Harry and probably dad as well come to that. It's about time you find her and have a talk to her about that
-[X] Chariots for the One Eye: As part of her deal to ally against the Will of Kakuri you promised Odin vehicles fit for his warriors, time to show your chops.
-[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
-[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (6/10) [+extra AP from potion]
-[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (2/10 progress )
-[X] Attend school
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- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Normally I would push for more training with Brother D and to get more work on done on Last Station, but there are more pressing matters to attend to this month, IMO.
Let's go ahead and win the lottery to get that out of the way. $64 million, plus whatever multiplier we get from the Powerplay option, takes care of our finances for a long time to come. It opens up all sorts of options in the future, from purchasing property to minion training and acquisition. Money is a superpower.
Rosie is Molly's friend and we need to help her with continued training, not only for her own safety and stability, but because she has a power which can potentially be very useful to us once it is fully realized.
While taking care of some of our debt to Odin might not be absolutely necessary this month, we should still try to get it taken care of ASAP. Let's get it over with so we don't have it hanging over our heads in the future. Doing it sooner rather than later also demonstrates how seriously we take our debt, and that's good for our rep.
Following up on the Naagloshii, Sandra's connection to Nemesis and us, and what the Library of Congress have been up to since our donation all seem like things Molly would want to jump on pretty quickly rather than procrastinating on. This isn't the kind of stuff you put on the backburner for very long.
[X] P-p-p-powerball!
-[X] Attend school
-[X] A Big Score
--[X] Contrive to purchase a winning lottery ticket in Kansas for the 11/25/2006 Powerball drawing, paying the extra $2 fee for the Powerplay option (randomly applies a 2X, 3X, 4X, 5X, or 10X modifier to our winnings). This is a $64 million jackpot.
-[X] A friend in need
--[X] Dreaming True (2/10 progress) - Using our additional AP gained through abusing super coffee
-[X] The Worst Wingwoman
-[X] The Seeker Sought
-[X] Chariots for the One Eye
-[X] Contact the Librarians
Let's go ahead and win the lottery to get that out of the way. $64 million, plus whatever multiplier we get from the Powerplay option, takes care of our finances for a long time to come. It opens up all sorts of options in the future, from purchasing property to minion training and acquisition. Money is a superpower.
Rosie is Molly's friend and we need to help her with continued training, not only for her own safety and stability, but because she has a power which can potentially be very useful to us once it is fully realized.
While taking care of some of our debt to Odin might not be absolutely necessary this month, we should still try to get it taken care of ASAP. Let's get it over with so we don't have it hanging over our heads in the future. Doing it sooner rather than later also demonstrates how seriously we take our debt, and that's good for our rep.
Following up on the Naagloshii, Sandra's connection to Nemesis and us, and what the Library of Congress have been up to since our donation all seem like things Molly would want to jump on pretty quickly rather than procrastinating on. This isn't the kind of stuff you put on the backburner for very long.
[X] P-p-p-powerball!
-[X] Attend school
-[X] A Big Score
--[X] Contrive to purchase a winning lottery ticket in Kansas for the 11/25/2006 Powerball drawing, paying the extra $2 fee for the Powerplay option (randomly applies a 2X, 3X, 4X, 5X, or 10X modifier to our winnings). This is a $64 million jackpot.
-[X] A friend in need
--[X] Dreaming True (2/10 progress) - Using our additional AP gained through abusing super coffee
-[X] The Worst Wingwoman
-[X] The Seeker Sought
-[X] Chariots for the One Eye
-[X] Contact the Librarians
- Location
- Earth
What benefits are there compared to our already available Resources 4 that are worth that much attention?
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- Location
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There won't be any extra attention. Kansas is one of the few states that allows lottery winners to remain anonymous.
As far as benefits go, it will be a huge chunk of money we can use to make large purchases. Large tracts of land, underground lairs, high value downtown Chicago property, etc.
[X] Plan Obligations and practicing for family
-[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
-[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (6/10)
--[X] Use bonus AP
-[X] Chariots for the One Eye: As part of her deal to ally against the Will of Kakuri you promised Odin vehicles hit for his warriors, time to show your chops.
-[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
-[X] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
--[X] Talking to the family, you do not like Mrs Wilsom and the feeling is mutual, but as your experience at church yesterday showed you do not have to like someone to turn on the supernatural charm. Maybe you could work something out, or at least explain some of what her daughter is going through
-[X] The Seeker Sought given that you can teleport now maybe you can find a Medicine Man of the blood to deal with the Naagloshii. Given what you know of Broken Seeker and his... people now perhaps they would be more inclined to help you deal with them. Even if you do not find any takers you can deal with him.
Ok. So, my reasoning:
1-4 are obligations we have, they are important. I want to finish Last Stations soon, ideally when we get our kingdom. We dropped Rosie for a month, so we should pick her back up, and handling her family issues gives us practice for handling our own family issues. So, Rosie - talking to the family. Besides, having dealt as an equal with Mab, we should be able to roll over some mortals who are not Charity "Willpower" Carpenter and don't have True Faith. The last one is a free option in my opinion. I wanted desperately to go with Daniel, but we need to deal with naagloshii, since it attacked us already. That can't go unpunished, and it's actively preparing for a confrontation. I wanted to have fetish making to make the hunt profitable, but that's not feasible.
Take immediate threat out, then we can deal with other stuff.
For Daniel, since I am in love with "immortal shapeshifter" idea of mine for his build, I see the following: work it out with Charity, start helping Daniel train, work with Alphas for shapeshifting path training, and use naagloshii trophies for insights / discounts.
We in principle still have an obligation to Olivia to help her fix her magic. That involves contacting her ancestor and it has to be done by christmas, so we'll have to take it next month. I can live with switching it in for one of the options, wince its interesting to me.
-[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
-[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (6/10)
--[X] Use bonus AP
-[X] Chariots for the One Eye: As part of her deal to ally against the Will of Kakuri you promised Odin vehicles hit for his warriors, time to show your chops.
-[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
-[X] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
--[X] Talking to the family, you do not like Mrs Wilsom and the feeling is mutual, but as your experience at church yesterday showed you do not have to like someone to turn on the supernatural charm. Maybe you could work something out, or at least explain some of what her daughter is going through
-[X] The Seeker Sought given that you can teleport now maybe you can find a Medicine Man of the blood to deal with the Naagloshii. Given what you know of Broken Seeker and his... people now perhaps they would be more inclined to help you deal with them. Even if you do not find any takers you can deal with him.
Ok. So, my reasoning:
1-4 are obligations we have, they are important. I want to finish Last Stations soon, ideally when we get our kingdom. We dropped Rosie for a month, so we should pick her back up, and handling her family issues gives us practice for handling our own family issues. So, Rosie - talking to the family. Besides, having dealt as an equal with Mab, we should be able to roll over some mortals who are not Charity "Willpower" Carpenter and don't have True Faith. The last one is a free option in my opinion. I wanted desperately to go with Daniel, but we need to deal with naagloshii, since it attacked us already. That can't go unpunished, and it's actively preparing for a confrontation. I wanted to have fetish making to make the hunt profitable, but that's not feasible.
Take immediate threat out, then we can deal with other stuff.
For Daniel, since I am in love with "immortal shapeshifter" idea of mine for his build, I see the following: work it out with Charity, start helping Daniel train, work with Alphas for shapeshifting path training, and use naagloshii trophies for insights / discounts.
We in principle still have an obligation to Olivia to help her fix her magic. That involves contacting her ancestor and it has to be done by christmas, so we'll have to take it next month. I can live with switching it in for one of the options, wince its interesting to me.
[X] Yog
- Location
- florida
Dont we already have a charm to give us the perfect tool for every situation? No matter what our mind can conjure?
Mot exactly. It can conjure a variation of amy tools that exists, but not any tool in principle. We get a hell-designed robotic assembly line, but not a star trek replicator or a gravity room.
In fairness flying is amazing, and she is a little kid. If we have any family bonding time getting Molly to let her younger siblings play Superman for a bit would be funny.
I really want this one, even if it's not necessarily relevant right now. Kind of hard to monetize the results though. Unless the NSA will buy access to other people's satellites from us, but that's probably a bad idea to try setting up.
I think we should add acquiring a therapist to this.
I didn't really register that we were still mooching tools. We should probably get this out out of the way.
This would be the talent purge thing right? Since we just made our peace deal with the white court we should probably investigate this now so that we can catch Madrigal before we publicize it and handle addressing it in the same step.
Is there anything we might benefit from in trade here? If we're going to poke them we might as well get as much as we can from it, and we shouldn't leave the Akuma thing alone too long.
Only thing I can think of is trading alchemy recipes with them or something, since that's pretty harmless at this scale and would let us feel them out more.
- Location
- Germany
Do we have the action to analyse/reuse the Akuma weapon and corpse?
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[] Night's Sword: Dangerous are the swords forged in Kakuri Wan, living darkness given edge, but you do not fear to bear one who wears a mantle of that realm's endless chill. What are its secrets you wonder, how might it be used?
[X] Plan Obligations and practicing for family
I really want it too, and not for money. Foci acquisition. We can get so many foci with this for our Crown. Also literal eyes in the sky. But, as you said, it can wait.
A great project to make would be finding a talented therapist and making their clinic / practice an Accorded Neutral territory. White God knows, Maeve could use some therapy. As could Lily and a lot of other. We'd need to equip them with some very thorough defenses, but their business would be booming.
Also, as previously mentioned, checking which therapists and psychiatrists report to various supernatural organizations should be a task. Because some of them definitely should be reporting. "Wild sprout" talents would probably go to a psychiatrist / therapist at some point, and this would be a great net to catch them for people like Whampires and Rhampires. And Denarians too.
Yes, but this can wait.
Hopefully this can wait. It's a concern, but hopefully the protections afforded to her by Bane should hold. If it was an emerggency, she'd have contacted us. We are a registered nuclear weapon in Order of Cauldron's arsenal, after all.
Access to Intel and probably to some mundane government resources.
Mind Hand Manipulation replaces the normal pool for Craft etc with the number of successes on the activation roll. It doesn't create a tool, because tools don't have dice pools. The presence or absence of tools changes the difficulty target.
This means you're generally worse at it, but means you can craft when tied up or when you can't physically reach the components.
It allows fine manipulation but doesn't specify that is better than, say, a chip lithography racing machine. It's a set of telekinetic hands, that's it.
This means you're generally worse at it, but means you can craft when tied up or when you can't physically reach the components.
It allows fine manipulation but doesn't specify that is better than, say, a chip lithography racing machine. It's a set of telekinetic hands, that's it.
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Getting Maeve into therapy... I'd say it's impossible, but you are a socially focused Exalt which bumps that down to very damn hard.
But it does make it easier for one to reach and use components literally in line of sight like say at the other end of a subway tunnel, as I said bove it lets you make like the Sorcerer's Apprentice over vast areas. So I would not apply the extra dice to say making armor, but for big infrastructure projects like the Dragon's Nest it makes sense to get some dice benefit.
Should there also be an option for playing guard dog for the Ordo, or is that something they'll call on us for as needed?
I was under the impression that they had to deal with harassment somewhat regularly, and that our primary contribution to the community potluck was going to be showing up periodically to scare off/murder minor gribblies.
We're talking about a massive and defused industry that's set up specifically to avoid that happening. It isn't fool proof, but subverting it such that a majority of people are aware and capable of reporting on supernatural stuff would be too much to hide even with magic on your side.
It's not even about ethics or anything, it's a problem with information control at scale that makes conspiracies like this hard.
Doing so wouldn't be a violation by the actual terms of our agreement, but it wouldn't look very good. Introducing ourselves by offing someone to show where the lines are and then settling into the new boundaries is a better play politically.
Getting the full pool added on would be ridiculous, but a master craftsmen should get better results if they can focus more on optimizing results and less on working around fundamental limitations.
An example being something like needing to use a suboptimal wiring layout in a bit of custom electronics because the craftsman assembling it has to be able to reach certain places at certain steps. MHM doesn't add tools, but it does let you do things similar to what a lot of small tools would and use what you do have in otherwise impossible ways.
Even with no change in the craftsman's actual skill level removing restrictions from the build process would allow them to design a better product.
I was under the impression that they had to deal with harassment somewhat regularly, and that our primary contribution to the community potluck was going to be showing up periodically to scare off/murder minor gribblies.
I agree that getting something set up would be good, but I don't think a significant number of therapists are likely to be reporting to anyone.
We're talking about a massive and defused industry that's set up specifically to avoid that happening. It isn't fool proof, but subverting it such that a majority of people are aware and capable of reporting on supernatural stuff would be too much to hide even with magic on your side.
It's not even about ethics or anything, it's a problem with information control at scale that makes conspiracies like this hard.
I'd like to handle it sooner, but if we wait on this we should also wait on the formal vamp event. Those should happen on the same turn so that we can kill Madrigal with a minimum of fuss related to our nonaggression pact.
Doing so wouldn't be a violation by the actual terms of our agreement, but it wouldn't look very good. Introducing ourselves by offing someone to show where the lines are and then settling into the new boundaries is a better play politically.
I think that misses some of the points @Yog was making, which is that telekinesis is amazing for positioning and using stuff you couldn't otherwise get your hands or tools on alone.
Getting the full pool added on would be ridiculous, but a master craftsmen should get better results if they can focus more on optimizing results and less on working around fundamental limitations.
An example being something like needing to use a suboptimal wiring layout in a bit of custom electronics because the craftsman assembling it has to be able to reach certain places at certain steps. MHM doesn't add tools, but it does let you do things similar to what a lot of small tools would and use what you do have in otherwise impossible ways.
Even with no change in the craftsman's actual skill level removing restrictions from the build process would allow them to design a better product.
If someone randomly pokes them you will get a call to explode the world's most unfortunate vampire, for less random things and being proactive you might want that Helen action.
I will commit the cardinal sin and argue with QM.
Imagine a mechanical clock, like in this video. See the large amount of layered gears and springs? You have to assemble them in order, because after you put one gear in, you can't get to the other with a screwdriver or a tiny wrench. That limits you options in making such a mechanism. Same as when you, for example, are wiring something. You need to put cables into place, or push them through narrow holes. Or if you need to cut grooves into something on the inside of a tiny curved hole. Without telekinesis, even with any possible tool, that might not be possible, because you simply can't get the tool in - there's simply no place for it. With telekinesis you can, because you can exert force on an object, like tightening a screw, holding a spring compressed, etc.
Maybe this won't apply to armor, though I think it should, but it's definitely not just a scale thing.
Yes! Thus! Exactly. Which is why I think pool / 2 bonus to craft is a good idea.